who's gonna be blamed this time

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by Wakko

heartless posted the EET coordlist on the forum. a mod edited his post and removed the link to the coordlist, and heartless reedited it, so the whole thread was deleted.
oh yes, and dont try to deflect from FAnG. ur alliance is the topic of this thread, not ToT. start another thread if u want

This is different. As defence is alliance-only in many cases, its of pateam relevence. Heartless posting EET coordlist was outside the game, and therefor had nothing to do with it the game from a pateam point of view.

And Zhil, take your crappy propaganda elsewhere, your running around in circles.

[CrazySpoon]

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[Tomkat]

I AM inept \o/

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov

This is different. As defence is alliance-only in many cases, its of pateam relevence. Heartless posting EET coordlist was outside the game, and therefor had nothing to do with it the game from a pateam point of view.

And Zhil, take your crappy propaganda elsewhere, your running around in circles.

Propawhat?

Eh?

I'm just laughing at this entire situation. It's hilarious and will be my most fond r10 memory.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by CrazySpoon

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Heh, think LOL would have worked as well

thort u had quit

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[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

I AM inept \o/

still got nice sidies tho

[Maddix]

Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov

And Zhil, take your crappy propaganda elsewhere, your running around in circles.

I think you confuse 'propaganda' for 'sitting there laughing so hard he is almost wetting himself with the rest of us' :lol:

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by ronnie

also, LEFF didnt let his 'alliance' farm him, techinically he was allianceless at the time. this isnt the point in question tho.

True.

Incidentally, how come the FAnG players were deleted from the ingame alliance about 45 minutes before Webangel went into #support with his login/password details?

[CrazySpoon]

Originally Posted by ronnie

thort u had quit

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These funny things even reach the inactives

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Maddix

This is sooooooooo going to be abused...

Scenario -

Alliance BC: "**** we can't cover all our incoming, what can we do?"
Alliance HC: "I know I'll accidently paste my login details somewhere, some **** will log in (if no-one does I'll get peon1 to do it) and they'll stop the ticker for us!"
Alliance BC: "genius sir, total genius!"

Originally Posted by Zh1l

I view it as pathetic. Any respect I had for PA Team is long gone now in light of this event. Let FAnG stew in their own mess. Their own fault for appointing such rubbish and psychotic HC.

Nah, I mean we needed time to actually consider the issue and decide on our response as it's a totally new situation that we never even conceived possible. Caution is a virtue (one wishes WebAngel had adhered to this point of view).



NB We are stopping ticks for no more than 24 hours to investigate certain allegations. And we'll give notice of precisely when they're starting as soon as possible.

That's your official response.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

True.

Incidentally, how come the FAnG players were deleted from the ingame alliance before about 45 minutes before Webangel went into #support with his login/password details?

hehe

well, **** it, y not giv the full story

sum ppl quit as there was an official announcement by HC that FAnG was disbanding (thats no longer the case).

as for the ppl that left ingame alliance when this announcement was made, pffft, got no idea.

with that im off to bed.

happy spamming/flaming

(sorry to FAnG for telling this but tbh, im pretty pissed off with the whole situation, WA's attitude certainly doesnt help either.)

nn

[CrazySpoon]

Can people plz stop posting so much, I cant keep up.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by CrazySpoon

Can people plz stop posting so much, I cant keep up.

lack of practice.

thats what happens when u go inactive

[CrazySpoon]

Thought you were off to bed.
And WA's attitude always been fun

[mjrTorspo]

argh.. so he posted the login/pass ON PURPOSE, and ticks gets stopped? way to go..

[Maddix]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

NB We are stopping ticks for no more than 24 hours to investigate certain allegations.

That's your official response.

Does this mean that in 24 hours (as you've already admitted you can't 'admin' the problem away) ticks will basically resume in the same state as you stopped them (i.e. the unfortunate victims of WebAngel - from now on refered to as VoW - still allianceless)?

In addition I also hear the entire cause for this was a form of 'protest' against PATeam because of some recently closures. Surely if you fix the situation (as if it never happened) it would be similar to giving in to the demands of the accused and apparently guilty?

[WebAngel]

First of all you can find the how to build a nuclear bomb on internet but its not a reason for me to build a nuclear weapon. You can give me a gun I wont shoot you. You cangive me your credit cards number I wont use it. Some can call that stupidity, I call that honesty.
When I paste my login details for being closed (I have my reasons for it and its none of your business) I dont expect some of the EET supporters to log in my account and use it to do the lowest crappiest and uggliest move ever made into PA. I didnt know that doing such a low thing was so laughable, tells me a lot about the fighting spirit of EET and their fair play, to sumup better get the players deleted and use tricks like that than to fight in a fair fight. Should I say cowards, well no because all of you dont deserve it but this is another reason for me to be proud to NOT be EET (aka wannabe winner at all cost).

[Hector]

Originally Posted by CrazySpoon

Can people plz stop posting so much, I cant keep up.

Its like IRC on bulletin. New and exciting!

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by mjrTorspo

argh.. so he posted the login/pass ON PURPOSE, and ticks gets stopped? way to go..

what difference wud that make ?

he wanted his planet deleted cos he was tired of the stress so he did what he did.

there wasnt any alterior motive involved.

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by ronnie

as for the ppl that left ingame alliance when this announcement was made, pffft, got no idea.

Originally Posted by Grim

blah blah tomkat has no clue

From: Headquarters Subject: Alliance Membership has been terminated Sent: Sun Dec 7 23:11:46 2003

[23:59:47] <WebAngel> <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want


For those who don't know what I'm getting at, look at the times. Both are PA time. Heh.



(Edit- To avoid further irritating problems don't actually post login details on the forums. It's just needless hassle-JBG)

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

From: Headquarters Subject: Alliance Membership has been terminated Sent: Sun Dec 7 23:11:46 2003

[23:59:47] <WebAngel> <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want


For those who don't know what I'm getting at, look at the times. Both are PA time. Heh.

read my post TK, i explained the full situation, i cant be arsed covering for ppl.

[Maddix]

Originally Posted by WebAngel

When I paste my login details for being closed (I have my reasons for it and its none of your business) I dont expect some of the EET supporters to log in my account and use it to do the lowest crappiest and uggliest move ever made into PA.

You've played PA for long enough. Surely you know what some of the people are like by now?

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by WebAngel

First of all you can find the how to build a nuclear bomb on internet but its not a reason for me to build a nuclear weapon. You can give me a gun I wont shoot you. You cangive me your credit cards number I wont use it. Some can call that stupidity, I call that honesty.
When I paste my login details for being closed (I have my reasons for it and its none of your business) I dont expect some of the EET supporters to log in my account and use it to do the lowest crappiest and uggliest move ever made into PA. I didnt know that doing such a low thing was so laughable, tells me a lot about the fighting spirit of EET and their fair play, to sumup better get the players deleted and use tricks like that than to fight in a fair fight. Should I say cowards, well no because all of you dont deserve it but this is another reason for me to be proud to NOT be EET (aka wannabe winner at all cost).

Or perhaps YOU SHOULDNT POST YOUR USER DETAILS IN A PUBLIC ROOM TO BEGIN WITH.

Just abit of advise.

PS: You automatically assume it was EET when it could have been anyone. Don't blame EET for your blatant stupidity.

[Grim]

If only people stopped listening to rumours

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Maddix

Does this mean that in 24 hours (as you've already admitted you can't 'admin' the problem away) ticks will basically resume in the same state as you stopped them (i.e. the unfortunate victims of WebAngel - from now on refered to as VoW - still allianceless)?

In addition I also hear the entire cause for this was a form of 'protest' against PATeam because of some recently closures. Surely if you fix the situation (as if it never happened) it would be similar to giving in to the demands of the accused and apparently guilty?

I think those, among others probably, are the certain allegations that are being investigated. You'll have to pardon me for not publically posting #pateam logs to answer everyone's questions satisfactorily.

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

PS: You automatically assume it was EET when it could have been anyone. Don't blame EET for your blatant stupidity.

It was you, wasn't it ;(

[xtothez]

Originally Posted by WebAngel

proud to NOT be EET

Please don't tarnish the names of a whole block over the actions of one person (not even confirmed as a member of said block), and we won't disgrace the name of fang over the sheer ****ing idiocy of someone else.

Deal?

[Wakko]

Originally Posted by WebAngel

First of all you can find the how to build a nuclear bomb on internet but its not a reason for me to build a nuclear weapon. You can give me a gun I wont shoot you. You cangive me your credit cards number I wont use it. Some can call that stupidity, I call that honesty.
When I paste my login details for being closed (I have my reasons for it and its none of your business) I dont expect some of the EET supporters to log in my account and use it to do the lowest crappiest and uggliest move ever made into PA. I didnt know that doing such a low thing was so laughable, tells me a lot about the fighting spirit of EET and their fair play, to sumup better get the players deleted and use tricks like that than to fight in a fair fight. Should I say cowards, well no because all of you dont deserve it but this is another reason for me to be proud to NOT be EET (aka wannabe winner at all cost).

ROFL ROFL ROFL
webangel u were to dumb to piss a hole in the snow (dunno if this a good translation )
and for ur infinite stupidity u blame now EET?
u r one of the most arrogant persons i ever met (in RL and in the internet, perhaps u rnt in RL)

ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING :tree:

[CrazySpoon]

I was told someone payed him money for posting it in public...

[Heartless]

Originally Posted by Wakko

rofl ronnie
perhaps ToT is inactive, but at least we dont have so dumb HCs
and why should i look on myself? not cos of ToT the ticks r stopped, its cos of aFAnG HC

Uh oh ...

I remember myself hearing you or sonnenbomber (not sure right now who it was) saying about your members which gave me their logins to check their accounts (which I didn't do): "You were dumb if you gave Heartless your login and get reported now."

I think I can conclude than that ToT has dumb HC's which gave me their logins in previous rounds. :>

But to get back to the topic: A funny story, indeed. I am laughing my ass off all the time at the moment.

[ronnie]

/me bullet points simple facts

1) FAnG was going to disband, there was an announcement, it was told to members. sum ppl left the ingame alliance at this point.

2) to the credit of many FAnG members the HC were swayed and persuaded to keep FAnG going. the ppl who had left the ingame alliance (around 4 i think) were basicly ****ed.

3) WA pasted his login details in #support wanting to be deleted. there was no alterior motive as WA didnt actually know any1 had quit ingame at this stage.

4) it was decided and told to members FAnG wudnt disband. this is when ppl made it known they had already left in game alliance

5) ppl started realising they had been booted from ingame alliance, a check of the HC was dun and it was realised sum1 had logged into WA's acct.

6) PA Team were contacted as members had been kicked against their's and the HC's will and mass incomin had occurred (a lot of the incomin had been pre-planned from many ticks before, it wasnt spur of the moment, not all of it anyway)

7) all this has happened


hope that is informative to ppl

[A2]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

True.

Incidentally, how come the FAnG players were deleted from the ingame alliance about 45 minutes before Webangel went into #support with his login/password details?

This assumes that you're taking the example below as your direct evidence for this.

Originally Posted by Tomkat

From: Headquarters Subject: Alliance Membership has been terminated Sent: Sun Dec 7 23:11:46 2003

[23:59:47] <WebAngel> foxgrove/VHQFBSIF <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want

For those who don't know what I'm getting at, look at the times. Both are PA time. Heh.

Actually the second one of those is PA +1
The Alliance membership terminated message was sent at 23:11 PA time (which is the same as UK time atm)
By getting a log from someone who is in the same timezone as PA (ie. in the UK) you find that the #support quote is actually an hour earlier. I've checked that PA Time, and the time shown on this computer are pretty well identical, and have verified that the time shown on the alliance deletion message is correct.
[22:59] <WebAngel> foxgrove/VHQFBSIF <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want

[Mitre]

[23:59] <WebAngel> foxgrove/VHQFBSIF <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want
[23:59] * P sets mode: +b *!*WebAngel@*.net81-65-112.noos.fr
[23:59] * WebAngel was kicked by P ((NB3) No Reason)
[00:00] <remy|afk> rofl, nb3,m thats original, you must admit that, now he forced you to change his login
[00:00] <NB3|busy> im not changing his login
[00:00] <NB3|busy> im not touching any admin tool other than for fixing bugs or closing cheating planets

NB3 could actually avoided the whole thing but he didnt wanna change the login

[starbreeze]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

From: Headquarters Subject: Alliance Membership has been terminated Sent: Sun Dec 7 23:11:46 2003

[23:59:47] <WebAngel> <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want


For those who don't know what I'm getting at, look at the times. Both are PA time. Heh.

[/i]

ronnie all good and stuff...

but u fail to address this issue

you don't get such a mail if u leave voluntarily, only when you get kicked

so maybe some members were leaving, but there were members getting kicked 40 odd min before WA posted his l/p info


edit nm a2 responded with answeres ^^

[Grim]

Originally Posted by starbreeze

ronnie all good and stuff...

but u fail to address this issue

you don't get such a mail if u leave voluntarily, only when you get kicked

so maybe some members were leaving, but there were members getting kicked 40 odd min before WA posted his l/p info.... maybe there is something more thats going on that you don't know about?

Read A2's post

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by starbreeze

ronnie all good and stuff...

but u fail to address this issue

you don't get such a mail if u leave voluntarily, only when you get kicked

so maybe some members were leaving, but there were members getting kicked 40 odd min before WA posted his l/p info


edit nm a2 responded with answeres ^^

this has been addressed by A2, the time difference between PA and the irc quote used is the problem.

supposedly

[starbreeze]

posted while writing ^^

clarifies that point

still mighty funny

[waffle]

Well, WA is a flippin retard in the first place for posting his login details. If he wanted to be deleted, I'm sure he could have asked the PA admins.

Sad how everything that causes the game to shut down, rolled back, etc., always seems to involve FAnG in one way or another. :/

[ronnie]

as a side note, i have been asked by a number of people about wether im stayin FAnG after all this.

my honest response atm, i dont know.

WA seems to be very keen on blaming every1 except himself, hes not apologetic to the members, hes called me inactive to try and draw ppl's focus from himself.

i just dont know.

anyway, my point was, if sum1 did this (for example Focht, this isnt a flame, its an example) what would you all, as eclipse members, feel/do/react ?

this isnt aimed for flames, its aimed for ppl's thought on how they wud handle a situation myself and around 50 other ppl find ourselves in, call it a morale dilemna.

views ?

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by waffle

Well, WA is a flippin retard in the first place for posting his login details. If he wanted to be deleted, I'm sure he could have asked the PA admins.

Sad how everything that causes the game to shut down, rolled back, etc., always seems to involve FAnG in one way or another. :/

according to him he has no blame.

LOL

[Salt]

This is clearly the best strategy to use next time ND + Vision + Fang + Dragons decide to all launch on Ecl same tick.

[Stress]

prolly nt. pa team seems to act diffrent in all cases ... even similar ones

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by ronnie

as a side note, i have been asked by a number of people about wether im stayin FAnG after all this.

my honest response atm, i dont know.

WA seems to be very keen on blaming every1 except himself, hes not apologetic to the members, hes called me inactive to try and draw ppl's focus from himself.

i just dont know.

anyway, my point was, if sum1 did this (for example Focht, this isnt a flame, its an example) what would you all, as eclipse members, feel/do/react ?

this isnt aimed for flames, its aimed for ppl's thought on how they wud handle a situation myself and around 50 other ppl find ourselves in, call it a morale dilemna.

views ?

I would personally slate Focht quite badly, whilst gaining other ex-Fury support along with my voice of reason.

There is also no question in wondering whether Focht could stay HC, he couldnt. He would be removed and a new CEO would be brought in.

Its a slightly different situation though in terms of ties/contacts/connections.

Personally, I feel WebAngel is only hurting you here in trying to make it look like other people's fault rather than his own. If he is calling you and other FAnG who are embarressed by this action "inactive" then he is not a worthy HC member. If you have a good majority of the membership who feels like you, then raise the matter with another HC and see the removal of WebAngel.

[Hexy]

ronnie you sure do like to babble on and on..... can you make one realllly long post so I know to avoid reading... If you truely think webster meant harm to his alliance mates... you dont know him one iota. If you were half as passionate about helping him and your other HC's maybe things would have been different.... #support... sorry but corruption comes to mind. and Wakko your analogys ... they do lack a bit of brillance.... try a bit harder next time my german spiderman. Grim.... atta boy! ok Ive made my one post for the round ...

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Salt

This is clearly the best strategy to use next time ND + Vision + Fang + Dragons decide to all launch on Ecl same tick.

once again u hav completely misunderstood everything that has occurred.

eclipse etc launched on FAnG AFTER WA had posted his login details.

[23:59:47] <WebAngel> foxgrove/VHQFBSIF <-- now close me and delete me whenever you want

13 secs before tick.

but WA didnt even post for this purpose, he just wanted to be deleted cos he (in his words)

[02:03] <WebAngel> During this round many of our planets have been closed, and it took a couple of weeks to have 2 other multihunters to have a look at it and to finally admit that nothing serious has been done. All the closed players should have been unlocked and its still not the case.

i think he blames the multi hunters and PA Team for wanting to quit as he feels they r very biased against FAnG.

his opinion, he doesnt represent FAnG in this view.

[WebAngel]

Originally Posted by waffle

Well, WA is a flippin retard in the first place for posting his login details. If he wanted to be deleted, I'm sure he could have asked the PA admins.

Sad how everything that causes the game to shut down, rolled back, etc., always seems to involve FAnG in one way or another. :/

Well you dont know anything about it so please stop posting craps. Of course I have asked nicely first.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Hexy

ronnie you sure do like to babble on and on..... can you make one realllly long post so I know to avoid reading... If you truely think webster meant harm to his alliance mates... you dont know him one iota. If you were half as passionate about helping him and your other HC's maybe things would have been different.... #support... sorry but corruption comes to mind. and Wakko your analogys ... they do lack a bit of brillance.... try a bit harder next time my german spiderman. Grim.... atta boy! ok Ive made my one post for the round ...

passionate about helping him and other HC's ?

wtf r u on about, im as passionate as any1 in FAnG for the cause, when ur own HC **** u over tho its a bit difficult to keep that passion and channel it in the correct places.

u think im this pissed off cos i dont hav any passion ?

no, im this pissed off cos i do hav passion.

and u can hardly say 'u dont know him' then make comments bout me, sum1 u dont know. somehat hypocritical.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by WebAngel

Well you dont know anything about it so please stop posting craps. Of course I have asked nicely first.

s'pose i cud always post up a link to the entire log from the evening and let ppl come up with their own views on u and what has happened.

[Stress]

lol
this is better then neighbours / days og our lives etc

hell this is better then dawson

[Stress]

Originally Posted by ronnie

s'pose i cud always post up a link to the entire log from the evening and let ppl come up with their own views on u and what has happened.

u do that, no fun when only a few have it