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Unread 17 Jan 2004, 13:37   #1
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I've got a choice of many many books to read. The choice is as follows:

Joseph Heller's Catch 22
Terry Pratchett's Night Watch
Mario Puzo's The Godfather
George Orwell's 1984

So, of all these books, which one should I read first?
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First Puzo.

Puzo always wins

I am at the moment reading Donna Tartt

What a tart.
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1984 is a must, but is kind of depressing.

I'd read Night Watch first if I hadn't already as it's a brilliant book.

Then read 1984.
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out of those books I've only read catch 22 and 1984.

I'd say catch 22 is the better read so I would go for that.
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I go for The Godfather.
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go for nightwatch

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Re: Bookworms R us
I prefer non-fiction, Currently reading the Second Edition of Cults.

Psychology books > supposedly 'intellectual' debate on GD.

p.s. Go for 1984 seeing as it has the closest relevancy to certain aspects of real life atm.
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Psychology books > supposedly 'intellectual' debate on GD.
Since we don't really discuss psychology here, that's a bit of a strange comparison to make. Besides, one would hope books (written in months or years) are slightly more researched than off-the-cuff forum posts written in minutes or seconds.

Most of the debates here are either political or ethical.
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Since we don't really discuss psychology here, that's a bit of a strange comparison to make. Besides, one would hope books (written in months or years) are slightly more researched than off-the-cuff forum posts written in minutes or seconds.

Most of the debates here are either political or ethical.
I would say Sex and Pedophila are psychological and have made up most of the serious debating for the last few days. As is defining the state of child an adult(btw read Transactional Analysis in Psyhcotherapy by Eric Berne M.D. for some really good thought provoking material on when the mind is no longer a child and when it is an adult).

That aside, I would prefer 1984 out of those books cause it can be related to a lot of things going on in rl, from entertainment to politics in some fashions.
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I would say Sex and Pedophila are psychological and have made up most of the serious debating for the last few days.
My apologies, my original statement was over-the-top. Of course we do discuss psychological issues (as almost everything can be related to the psychology). Merely the method we do is not psychological in nature - more ethical, as I suggest.

I shall have a look for the piece you mentioned.

p.s. I prefer non-fiction too. Fiction is easier to read, but I can't help but think I'm wasting my time since I could be reading something more serious.
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mmm.. I think I might start with 1984, since I'm all pretentious-like and I want to tell people I've read the classics. Then maybe some Night Watch to lighten things up, also it's been 6 years since I last read a Discworld novel, I want to see if they're still funny.
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I use movies for non fiction. Currently im reading antony beevor's stalingrad.
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p.s. I prefer non-fiction too. Fiction is easier to read, but I can't help but think I'm wasting my time since I could be reading something more serious.
I like both; most good fiction is serious anyway, and its often easier to show people something than to explain it.
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Puzo

but do not read anything after his Godfather trilogy. It becomes very forumulaic and repetitive. Puzo did not have a lot of imagination outside of central mafia themes.
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p.s. I prefer non-fiction too. Fiction is easier to read, but I can't help but think I'm wasting my time since I could be reading something more serious.
Thats why I use movies. 1/20 of the time, 2/5 of the fun. It is worthy.
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1984 is pretty cool. Dystopian societies are always far more interesting than perfect ones. The greatest compliment I can pay to Puzo is that the film barely did his work justice.
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I'd go with chronological order (published date, not setting). I'm linear like that.
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The only one I've read actually is Catch 22, but that was a great book.
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mmm.. I think I might start with 1984, since I'm all pretentious-like and I want to tell people I've read the classics. Then maybe some Night Watch to lighten things up, also it's been 6 years since I last read a Discworld novel, I want to see if they're still funny.
How the hell do you consider 1984 more of a classic than Catch 22 or The Godfather?
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but do not read anything after his Godfather trilogy. It becomes very forumulaic and repetitive. Puzo did not have a lot of imagination outside of central mafia themes.
He wrote the entire trilogy? I assumed the two sequels didn't have books. I might read those then if I like the first one.
Though II an III are pretty samey too. Bad guys turn up, Michael gets pissed off, Michael kills them all. Rinse & repeat for three movies.
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How the hell do you consider 1984 more of a classic than Catch 22 or The Godfather?
1984 has probably influenced English culture (certainly political culture) more than most books. Even if you don't like the book (and I don't particularly like reading it) a lot of stuff (like newspeak, doublespeak, Room 101, big brother, memory holes, etc) makes more sense after reading it.
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How on earth is The Godfather a 'classic' (by conventional definition)? I doubt 90% of people would have even heard of it had it not been made into a film.
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I didn't know that Godfather was a book. Id say that 1984 is far more 'classic' than the Godfather.
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