Do NAR and VOM have enough muscle left to make a difference?

[Urkki]

Would it make sense to them to agree and declare that only top100 or even top50 galaxies are allowed attack targets for their members (excepting counters and retals to smaller gals maybe)?

It would obiviously mean teaming up on almost all target planets etc, perhaps sharing one big gal with two battlegroups etc, but that shouldn't be too hard.

Now I wonder if that could make a serious impact, either getting roids away from the top, or at least drawing defence away from the top20 galaxies.

Or would it just be a drop in an ocean compared to the big WE-ET planets attacking each others?

And if they could make a difference, would it be better for to try to prolong the WE-ET war, hitting the gals of the one who seems to be winning at the time, or to strongly take sides, in the hopes that the winner will spare them after the losers have run out of roids (there should be enough time for that this round yet, no matter what).

[dabult]

Combined there might be enough ships to make a tiny difference, depending on how they would be used, in theory.

In reality neither has got the motivation/activity atm to act enough to do make that difference.

[Ston3D]

Great to see that here are still noobs on the forums.

[Urkki]

There's a n00b inside all of us.

Some just try to deny it, which leads to all kinds of mental problems, like flaming, trolling, whining, [edit: spamming, how could I forget!], you name it...

[K-W]

If a significant portion of vom and nar wanted to band together, they could have some effect on the war.

I dont think they really care who wins that much though. They are much better off jumping in and taking down small gals from both we and et and having fun. Cause even if you are out of the round, having successful attacks, and increasing rank is still fun.

[Ston3D]

Imagine. Average WE or ET is lets say 9mil and the average Vom 2mil. U really think 400 peeps with 2mil+ cant cause any damage?
And now even add Nar. There is ur answer

[Urkki]

Originally posted by Ston3D
Imagine. Average WE or ET is lets say 9mil and the average Vom 2mil. U really think 400 peeps with 2mil+ cant cause any damage?
And now even add Nar. There is ur answer

Is VOM really that well off still?

And I don't mean score, I mean does VOM still have 400 people that still actually play, ie have enough interest left to keep their fleet alive etc (meaning logging in at least twice every day to check for incs etc)?

I'm a bit sceptical, but don't get me wrong, if that's true, then very good

[skipper]

RaH, Oly, ministry and Nos? have told they'll go alone for the rest of the round so there aint much potential left, and attacking with 1 or 2 bgs on one galaxy takes quite much work if you want to get roids. Get all the inactive 2mills launch etc..

[Knight Theamion]

Most of the damage will come from inparallel organisation i think.

[isildurx]

I JUST WANT TO KILL MY ENEMIES !

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by K-W
If a significant portion of vom and nar wanted to band together, they could have some effect on the war.

I dont think they really care who wins that much though. They are much better off jumping in and taking down small gals from both we and et and having fun. Cause even if you are out of the round, having successful attacks, and increasing rank is still fun.

I agree with you there, get a bunch of ppl who are still active and want to have fun, form a BG, attack and roid it'll be a bit easier to roid now since the changes happened, imo.

[ginjas]

heheh you all have your point here..but you are all rong about VoM NaR best strategy to still have some power on the rest of round...

1: VoM (dont know about NaR) is proly 50% inactive..ok but the 50% rest are pure hardcore players

2:VoM cant hit any top 100 gal powerfuly enough solo

but tell me ? aniwone here is a noob ?
i am VoM i get WeeT roids every single day...
why do i have to atack a gal to get theyr roids ?
what VoM is doing and should do to end of round is SPY and counterspy...atack those WeeT gals who are all fleets defending top 10 gals..or ataking top 10 gals..since those gals will never be alowed by HC to recal theyr defense from HC planets....you can have free roids..increase your power and still later on round hit some top 100...at least my goal ATM is have fun..i will try to have the max fun i can..who cares now about top ? VoM can do much more damage by tactical moves and atacks on defensless gals

[K-W]

Originally posted by ginjas
heheh you all have your point here..but you are all rong about VoM NaR best strategy to still have some power on the rest of round...

1: VoM (dont know about NaR) is proly 50% inactive..ok but the 50% rest are pure hardcore players

2:VoM cant hit any top 100 gal powerfuly enough solo

but tell me ? aniwone here is a noob ?
i am VoM i get WeeT roids every single day...
why do i have to atack a gal to get theyr roids ?
what VoM is doing and should do to end of round is SPY and counterspy...atack those WeeT gals who are all fleets defending top 10 gals..or ataking top 10 gals..since those gals will never be alowed by HC to recal theyr defense from HC planets....you can have free roids..increase your power and still later on round hit some top 100...at least my goal ATM is have fun..i will try to have the max fun i can..who cares now about top ? VoM can do much more damage by tactical moves and atacks on defensless gals

Recalling from defence of any planet is not allowed. There is no destinction made for top planets. But youve got the right idea. Send ships around roid, enjoy the game.

[SpazMonster]

Originally posted by ginjas
heheh you all have your point here..but you are all rong about VoM NaR best strategy to still have some power on the rest of round...

1: VoM (dont know about NaR) is proly 50% inactive..ok but the 50% rest are pure hardcore players

2:VoM cant hit any top 100 gal powerfuly enough solo

but tell me ? aniwone here is a noob ?
i am VoM i get WeeT roids every single day...
why do i have to atack a gal to get theyr roids ?
what VoM is doing and should do to end of round is SPY and counterspy...atack those WeeT gals who are all fleets defending top 10 gals..or ataking top 10 gals..since those gals will never be alowed by HC to recal theyr defense from HC planets....you can have free roids..increase your power and still later on round hit some top 100...at least my goal ATM is have fun..i will try to have the max fun i can..who cares now about top ? VoM can do much more damage by tactical moves and atacks on defensless gals

Is that why I attacked 2 top 100 galaxies lastnight? I mean i'm only 2 mill... c'mon

It's thinking like this that drives people away. 'we can't hit that' blah blah blah. whatever. suck it up and attack someone your size or bigger.

[Ston3D]

Well 2 times a day is nothing. But trust me Vom is still ****in active. And to speak for Oly. We are fully armored and willing to fight and have at least 90% active peeps. And we may not be able to attack a top10 gal solo but we can kill any top100 gal we want.

[Sirad]

Originally posted by Ston3D
Well 2 times a day is nothing. But trust me Vom is still ****in active. And to speak for Oly. We are fully armored and willing to fight and have at least 90% active peeps. And we may not be able to attack a top10 gal solo but we can kill any top100 gal we want.

heh .
that about sums up something about what i think about 1 part of what you said

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Urkki
It would obiviously mean teaming up on almost all target planets etc, perhaps sharing one big gal with two battlegroups etc

I think NaR (not sure about VoM tbh) have a few more bigger planets that you would care to give them credit for. Depends on what size galaxy you are talking about teaming tho - as Germania said there is still a lot of fun to be had for both sides in hitting, taking down and succesfully roiding the smaller top WEET galaxies (read rank 30 - 100), not really that much point in us hitting the top top galaxies and getting no where tho.

[Sergio]

Best chances for VoM + NaR would be to hit in parallel. That would guarantee at least one tick of free roids from about 2 or 3 planets uncovered. The sad thing is, most planets are so f***ing inactive, that this kind of attacks fail bc of lack of fleets.

However, there are some bgs (VoM) hitting gals with about 45M score almost daily.

[Scouse]

The war seems fairish atm, but Eclipse and ToT are 'winning'.


NAR and VVOMM should be hitting them, so as to keep things generally equal.

[Paine]

Originally posted by Urkki
Would it make sense to them to agree and declare that only top100 or even top50 galaxies are allowed attack targets for their members (excepting counters and retals to smaller gals maybe)?

It would obiviously mean teaming up on almost all target planets etc, perhaps sharing one big gal with two battlegroups etc, but that shouldn't be too hard.

Now I wonder if that could make a serious impact, either getting roids away from the top, or at least drawing defence away from the top20 galaxies.

Or would it just be a drop in an ocean compared to the big WE-ET planets attacking each others?

And if they could make a difference, would it be better for to try to prolong the WE-ET war, hitting the gals of the one who seems to be winning at the time, or to strongly take sides, in the hopes that the winner will spare them after the losers have run out of roids (there should be enough time for that this round yet, no matter what).

You've fallen for the assumption that VVOMM and RaH are dead, which I can inform you is simply untrue. Both powerblocks are still hitting WE-ET on a regular basis. From the WE perspective, they do seem relatively dwarfed compared to the might of ET - which do pose some challenge to our fleets.... but nothing we can't overcome and surpass


Paine

[Knight Theamion]

Yesterday VoM covered for 500 mill on ET planets, however, WE didn't launch on their targets or something came up and about 4/5 gals of VoM got 2/3 wave attacks from WE


.... who's fking up now ?

[Paine]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
Yesterday VoM covered for 500 mill on ET planets, however, WE didn't launch on their targets or something came up and about 4/5 gals of VoM got 2/3 wave attacks from WE


.... who's fking up now ?

As far as I was aware... we're still at war. As much as we enjoy hitting Eclipse (and even ToT), its always nice to have a break and go for the nicer VVOMM targets



Paine

[Knight Theamion]

Originally posted by Paine
As far as I was aware... we're still at war. As much as we enjoy hitting Eclipse (and even ToT), its always nice to have a break and go for the nicer VVOMM targets



Paine

I hereby present to you, and if this reflects the full Elysium view, also the full of Elysium, the dodo award.

[Paine]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
I hereby present to you, and if this reflects the full Elysium view, also the full of Elysium, the dodo award.

/me accepts the award with pride.
I'm sure it is being awarded for being exceptionally unique, and kind natured - as was the bird.


But yes, I'm correct. Unless there is a NAP agreement - VVOMM is still open to attack. I doubt it is likely that the HC would sign such an agreement, mainly because it hinders the anti-powerblock plans Elysium (last time I checked ) wanted to put in place.

As they say, theres no harm in asking




Paine

[BOB_LOST]

make a dif. in what way?
i would prefer hicks´s gal won the round,then eclipse win as alliance (and to celebrate they decapitate zhil before he fondles anymore kids outside the kindergarden to forfill his deviant sexuality)

:e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick:

[K03N]

Originally posted by Paine
/me accepts the award with pride.
I'm sure it is being awarded for being exceptionally unique, and kind natured - as was the bird.


But yes, I'm correct. Unless there is a NAP agreement - VVOMM is still open to attack. I doubt it is likely that the HC would sign such an agreement, mainly because it hinders the anti-powerblock plans Elysium (last time I checked ) wanted to put in place.

As they say, theres no harm in asking




Paine

read -> post -> think

you just basicallt admitted that you'll **** over the people that help you


GO YOU!

[Paine]

Originally posted by K03N
read -> post -> think

you just basicallt admitted that you'll **** over the people that help you


GO YOU!

I don't get what you're saying... Please say it in dodo terms


Paine

[MAdnRisKy]

Originally posted by Knight Theamion
Yesterday VoM covered for 500 mill on ET planets, however, WE didn't launch on their targets or something came up and about 4/5 gals of VoM got 2/3 wave attacks from WE


.... who's fking up now ?

clearly not WE as they get the enemy hit, with minimal retaliation

(though admittedly we do realise that this common "you my dirty work" tactics of the WE(n) group has a tendancy to leave them proportionally smaller than the rest, and also lacking the ability to do little more that cack their britches come the pretty red lights season)

[Knight Theamion]

Originally posted by Paine
I don't get what you're saying... Please say it in dodo terms


Paine

As logic doesn't seem to work I will use playground terms for you.


YOU SUCK




mmmmmmmmmmmmmk?

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by BOB_LOST
make a dif. in what way?
i would prefer hicks´s gal won the round,then eclipse win as alliance (and to celebrate they decapitate zhil before he fondles anymore kids outside the kindergarden to forfill his deviant sexuality)

:e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick:

wtf?

[Knight Theamion]

Originally posted by Zh|l
wtf?

zhil, combine these words


again, bitter, lost, forgotten, glory, because, remembers, noone, him, ever.

[Teh_Necro]

well i may no longer be NaR but i am still here and playing, defending nar in para every night, im sure theres others out there he probably can make a difference, its the leadership, they need to guide us... heh.

-Necro

[SpazMonster]

Originally posted by Paine
/me accepts the award with pride.
I'm sure it is being awarded for being exceptionally unique, and kind natured - as was the bird.


But yes, I'm correct. Unless there is a NAP agreement - VVOMM is still open to attack. I doubt it is likely that the HC would sign such an agreement, mainly because it hinders the anti-powerblock plans Elysium (last time I checked ) wanted to put in place.

As they say, theres no harm in asking




Paine

Proudly accepting an award modeled after an extinct bird? What does this tell us of the future of elysium?

and as far as vom still being legitimate targets? Yes ofc they are, but you're pretty stupid to be hitting them while your galaxies are getting hammered nightly by ecl/tot