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[CrazySpoon]

Personally I think the name of the ninebows.com website should give a hint or something. When you do the + and - on the numbers you get 9 numbers. Now the question is what can "bows" give us for info.

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The bow could also represent whole nations. The enemies of Egypt were frequently referred to as "The Nine Bows". They were sometimes depicted as actual bows or personified as ethnically differentiated captives. On Tutankhamen's sandals, the hieroglyphic sign of the bow is repeated on the soles, thereby allowing the king to symbolically step on and subjugate his enemies.

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The Nine Bows signified the traditional enemeies of Egypt. In most periods of hieroglyphic writings, three represented a plural, whilst nine represented plurality in general.

The nine bows motif was often used on the Pharaoh's footstool to enable him (or her) to sit with their feet upon their enemies. The motif also sometimes appears painted on floors to be walked on by the Pharaoh, as well as his or her sandals. The bows sometimes were depicted in human form with a representation of the enemies of Egypt bound with their arms behind their backs.

I've read this before, but not personally seen it anywhere. Has anyone else seen this anywhere ?

[hook]

I have tried this one before with a few friends. We actually came to the conclusion that it's a hoax. A simple mid-schooler would probably just walk away from it after looking at it for a while.

If anyone does manage to find the answer, I'd be impressed though

[CrazySpoon]

A collegue mentions something about Orion and the position of stars in the past. That several pyramids where build on exact locations etc. Not into history that much. So maybe someone knows something about this?

[CrazySpoon]

1+7+21+3+8+1+0+2 = 43

http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/m/m043.html

[JammyJim]

a middle school kid could do this....

[CrazySpoon]

Uhu, what subjects you get/got at school

[Structural Integrity]

heh heh. Nebula's, Egyptian history, fibonacci.
I gave up on this. I don't think any middle school dude could solve this. Not even a forum full of people with an average IQ of over 130 can.

[CrazySpoon]

Color code
The Black: 000000
The Yellow: FFFF00

Wont be any usefull I assume

[MrL_JaKiri]

Make your sig a hell of a lot shorter, Spoon.

[xtrasyn]

I think it is solvable.

I mean, come on, a lightbulb is such a simple device anyone could have thought it up, but Edison had to be the first to see it. This is the same.

The Maker (praise be his holy name) said step three logically derives from step two.

We´ve been converting it all to binary ascii hex and back differently but every time we see something that could just be it but isn´t. This must mean we´re circling around the right pit here.

I´m convinced it has something to do with the interpretation of the range. Only a well read range can produce the right answer.

[CrazySpoon]

http://www.seismicgopher.com/

Webby from the creator afaik

[LHC]

I get a lot of email about step 2, and the only thing I ever say is that it's a logical progression from the first step. And yes, there is a prize at the end.

[djbass]

Originally Posted by CrazySpoon

Personally I think the name of the ninebows.com website should give a hint or something. When you do the + and - on the numbers you get 9 numbers. Now the question is what can "bows" give us for info.

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Hey I tried all this already and got neg repped three times in a row for it, seems people don't like thinking outside the box.

[xtrasyn]

Hence all the neg rep einstein went through

[Leshy]

Originally Posted by JammyJim

a middle school kid could do this....

Did anyone actually at some point say this?

As far as I know the only thing the creator said was that you do not need any tools or stuff to solve the problem.

[xtrasyn]

This is for you Leshy

Originally Posted by CrazySpoon

http://www.seismicgopher.com/

Webby from the creator afaik

[Knight Theamion]

We arent getting any further, are we?

[JammyJim]

seriously dudes,

If several hundred computer geeks using supercomputers they made out of old toasters and sticky back plastic cant solve it i doubt the finest GD has to offer will be able to either.


its not a 'geek solvable' one. What we need is a child. Seeing as we dont have one of those and the closest we do have to knowing how children think is Dace. I propose he works it out.

take it away dacey poos...

[Tomkat]

If only we were more stupid

Take all the people who solved that rose petals one in less than 5 minutes - they should be able to do it...

[djbass]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

If only we were more stupid

Take all the people who solved that rose petals one in less than 5 minutes - they should be able to do it...

I'm in that group, alas I failed. I do believe though it is akin to the petals around the rose puzzle, not in mechanics but concept, I fear we may simply be trying too tard looking for a complex answer where only a simple one exists.

[1-X]

so we need everyday concepts where the numbers can be from 11 to 30 and adding '+/- and the range 1~3' next to some of them makes sense

I still haven't given up on it being calendar related but I'm not really getting anywhere with that idea

[JammyJim]

i still think theres a link to archery or something.

plus a mate is convinced that hes dropped clues such as

"..._average_ middle schooler awake 50% of the time..."

[djbass]

Originally Posted by JammyJim

i still think theres a link to archery or something.

plus a mate is convinced that hes dropped clues such as

"..._average_ middle schooler awake 50% of the time..."

I more interpreted it to infer a class common amongst 6th grade american students that obviously deals in numbers. The only thing I can think of was maths, obviously because its a staple requirement in pretty much every school, and it has a tendancy to send students to sleep. The only other thing I derived was possibly a marking system for essays and such but I'm unfamilier with how they grade stuff in US schools.

Originally Posted by From Site

Interests
Astronomy Rally Electronics Robotics Photography

Is a list of his hobbies, perhaps they relate to one of the above.

[JetLinus]

So ok, there was this guy who said the numbers reminded him of archery scores.

So can somebody tell me what you'd need to do to get these sort of scores? Do they "form a picture on the target"? You know, if you were to connect the points where the arrows hit.
Or something?
No?

[xtrasyn]

Good idea, I have been thinking of that but I am unaware of how you get your points with archery

[Stew]

I'm not sure if this helps or not.

[Bravestarr]

From what i can remember, in disciplines of Archery, competitors are awarded a +/- score after their ring score which refers to how close to teh line they were, so i dont think theres really a way to map it back to exact positions on the target, also the single numbers seem too large to be a single archery score, even in the gold, i dont know.

I wondered if the -/+ and single numbers were a way of grouping them into 3 groups of 3, whether that would give anything, adding up the three groups, 2 come to 68, and the three minus numbers come to 64, all very close (minus group comes to 68 without subrtracting, but without adding, the plus group comes to 63, not 68)

[xtrasyn]

Been there, got the t-shirt, still staring at it.

[JBOY]

First of me looking at this thread.

http://www.netguides.org.uk/brownies...el_images.html

i rememeber doing that at school, but with the outer line being numbers instead of letters, the first number was supposed to tell you how many to the right you move the outer wheel, the numbers then = letters, the plusses and minusses were thrown in just to make it a bit more confusing.


just a thought.

[xtrasyn]

Ah yes wow what was the name of that monk again! It was the first cryptic system since the roman square code!

[Knight Theamion]

they have to stand for letters in a very very simple way

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by JBOY

First of me looking at this thread.

http://www.netguides.org.uk/brownies...el_images.html

i rememeber doing that at school, but with the outer line being numbers instead of letters, the first number was supposed to tell you how many to the right you move the outer wheel, the numbers then = letters, the plusses and minusses were thrown in just to make it a bit more confusing.


just a thought.

A A H T I F D D B - only alpha characters
1 Q N Z E 2 P D 2 - assuming numeric characters come after alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character
R H E Q 6 S G 5 S - assuming numeric characters come before alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character (just preceding A)

Nothing that makes a lot of sense to me.

[Leshy]

Originally Posted by xtrasyn

Ah yes wow what was the name of that monk again! It was the first cryptic system since the roman square code!

Vigenère?

[Knight Theamion]

Originally Posted by Structural Integrity

A A H T I F D D B - only alpha characters
1 Q N Z E 2 P D 2 - assuming numeric characters come after alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character
R H E Q 6 S G 5 S - assuming numeric characters come before alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character (just preceding A)

Nothing that makes a lot of sense to me.

what if the first 26 are capitals and then lowercase, or vice versa?

[xtrasyn]

DAB FAD HIT
DAB FDA HIT
DAB DAFT HI
DAB HAD FIT
DAB HAFT ID
DAB FAT HID
DAB AFT HID
BAD FAD HIT
BAD FDA HIT
BAD DAFT HI
BAD HAD FIT
BAD HAFT ID
BAD FAT HID
BAD AFT HID
DHABI DAFT
BAH DAD FIT
BAH ADD FIT
BAH FAD ITD
BAH FAD TID
BAH FDA ITD
BAH FDA TID
BAH DAFT ID
BAH FAT DID
BAH AFT DID
BATH DAD IF
BATH ADD IF
BATH FAD ID
BATH FDA ID
BAT FAD HID
BAT FDA HID
TAB FAD HID
TAB FDA HID
AD HAFT BID
DAD HAT FIB
DAD HAT FBI
ADD HAT FIB
ADD HAT FBI
FAD HAD BIT
FAD HAT BID
FDA HAD BIT
FDA HAT BID
DAFT AH BID
DAFT HA BID
HAD TAD FIB
HAD TAD FBI
HAD FAT BID
HAD AFT BID


I´m going mental here

[Knight Theamion]

you're trying to hard, luke

[xtrasyn]

Originally Posted by Leshy

Vigenère?

/me sex0rs Leshy

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by Knight Theamion

what if the first 26 are capitals and then lowercase, or vice versa?

I just came back from work. Don't push your luck now.

[queball]

Originally Posted by xtrasyn

I´m going mental here

You're going Dhabi Daft!

[xtrasyn]

Originally Posted by queball

You're going Dhabi Daft!

I had bad ft

[JBOY]

Originally Posted by Structural Integrity

A A H T I F D D B - only alpha characters
1 Q N Z E 2 P D 2 - assuming numeric characters come after alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character
R H E Q 6 S G 5 S - assuming numeric characters come before alpha characters and 0 is the last numeric character (just preceding A)

Nothing that makes a lot of sense to me.

how'd you get double A ?

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by JBOY

how'd you get double A ?

Euh...
Crap...
I counted the A as the first. So 27 should put the wheel on 'B', another 26 should put it on 'B' again. As I said, I just got home from work and my mind kind of shuts down after I finish work (I'm still not sure how I manage to drive home every day without crashing into stuff).
Oh well, right-shift everything one position and you get B B I U J G E E C.
Nothing better èh?

[Knight Theamion]

it aint the wheel, that would be too much effort, it should be fixable with pen and paper only

[Structural Integrity]

Originally Posted by Knight Theamion

it aint the wheel, that would be too much effort, it should be fixable with pen and paper only

I didn't use a wheel. I counted them in notepad.
Or is notepad also too much?
BTW, the second puzzle required one to know binary and ASCII. That's not something a middle school dude knows?

[Cyp]

Well, it ought to be 21399 (since multiplication is implied when nothing else is written), but it just gives a 404 error...

Or, assuming that the person's "i", "(" and ")" keys are broken, it should be 897317993520-111048200640, but that just gives a 404 error, too...

[Knight Theamion]

what are you on about cyp?

[Super]

This is a bit of a toughy.

I tried writing the numbers in groups of 3, and got this:

272 630 311 115 221 231 231 222

I figured that as the answer has to get us to the next location, then maybe there was an IP in it. So I removed the numbers that were too large to get:

115 221 231 231 222

then removed the duplicate to get :

115 221 231 222
I've tried to resolve the combinations of these numbers as an IP, but none of them seem to work so far.

[Super]

nm I'm very wrong

[at0mic.c0w]

Originally Posted by Super

*i.e. for 30+3, I did 30 in base 9, which was 33. Then add the +3 gives 36. Then I did 33 in base 9 (30+3), which also gave 36. This worked for every single one.

it looks like you are on to something there

[Knight Theamion]

i am stuck on writing the stuff in squares and all that ....

also transponding it to alphabet