Props to!

[Buddah]

Veneratio, clearly biggest shock in the round!
like who the **** are they?
and yet they got a decent average!

[pig]

They are an alliance with ambition and in the past few rounds have slowly been rising the ranks. This round once again they are doing what they are good at, and constantly improving on their alliance as a whole. There recruitment thread can be found here. Im sure we will see Veneratio cement its place in the top 10 this round and rounds to come.

[Bashar]

I have to say, I am not in the least bit shocked at veneratios success. I know some veneratio members quite well, and had a couple in my gal last round, and they are a decent alliance. Of the non-top-tier alliances, they are probably the best. I reckon they'll be up there with the best within 2-3 rounds. No doubt about it, they have potential, and they are reaching it.

[Gate]

I agree, well done to Veneratio, you've had an excellent round.

It'll be interesting to see how they'll hold up in a proper war IMO! \o/

[Chika]

I am not shocked either. Thier HC always portrayed a cool head, and seemed to know what they were talking about. And they have a steady increase in the ranks every round.

[Banned]

The real question is: are they achieving anything, or just gaining rank? If they're just roiding newbies and avoiding getting hit, there's not really much to give props to.

[demiGOD]

Originally Posted by Buddah

Veneratio, clearly biggest shock in the round!
like who the **** are they?
and yet they got a decent average!

If you bend over, I'll thrust in you the biggest shock this game has ever seen.

But seriously now -
-our military operations are successfully coordinated every night
-our members with collateral duties i.e. scanners, etc. are very active
-we have MOs that are insomniacs
-our recruitment force have been very successful with advertising and recruiting actives and keeping core members
-defense calls are promptly covered
-we are generally liked by other alliances
-we have fluffy HCs
-we have happy members that are very motivating to be with on irc

Still a long road ahead but indeed we are improving dramatically.

[Gate]

Originally Posted by Banned

The real question is: are they achieving anything, or just gaining rank? If they're just roiding newbies and avoiding getting hit, there's not really much to give props to.

As a somewhat new alliance, I'm still impressed by their organisation. Last round my experiences with their def was that it was very solid, and this round the 'stepped' nature of their roid graph on sandman's hints at a well organised attack structure, as seen in the graphs of 'leet' alliances like Angels, ToT and eXilition. From a comparitively new alliance, to have improved so much and to be performing so well (even if they've not seemed to get heavy incs night after night like the majority of the top 10), I find it impressive.

Gotta walk before you can run, etc.

[The Real Arfy]

Rawr! Thanks very much guys and girls, and although I'm ecstatic about our success so far, I feel we have alot more in us, and personally I don't think we will be content with the tenth spot. We have been continuously pushing to advance up the ranks.

As demiGOD said, our MOs have been a saviour this round, as have the scanners. Just like any other alliance with high hopes should have, we have dedicated scanners and MOs, and that is where our success has been held.

Originally Posted by Banned

The real question is: are they achieving anything, or just gaining rank? If they're just roiding newbies and avoiding getting hit, there's not really much to give props to.

We're not just roiding newbies, and we are definately not avoiding getting hit.

We are going to be competing for a much higher rank, and within the next few rounds we plan to be a strong force in the universe.

This round followed alot of preparation and I am delighted to see where it has gotten us so far.

[Assassin]

There doing great, well done to the HC, Officers and of course most importantly the members

[Mek]

well iam not at all surprised...the lkast 2 rounds ive played in gals with them (lo Truler and DemiGOD) and they have the knowledge and experience to make them go far..

veneratio definately has some good players

all the best to you guys

[truler]

*blushes*

Thanks for all the nice words fellows. Since im not font of repeating what arfy and demigod have said, all there really is for me to say that we were one of the first (if not thé first) alliance who was capable of doing jgp's this round.
Although there are still many glitches about our alliance we'd like to improve, i for one am very proud to be a HC of Veneratio. And i must add i never expected to be #10 this soon in the round


*waves to Mek*

[Filth]

Originally Posted by The Real Arfy

Rawr! Thanks very much guys and girls, and although I'm ecstatic about our success so far, I feel we have alot more in us, and personally I don't think we will be content with the tenth spot. We have been continuously pushing to advance up the ranks.

As demiGOD said, our MOs have been a saviour this round, as have the scanners. Just like any other alliance with high hopes should have, we have dedicated scanners and MOs, and that is where our success has been held.



We're not just roiding newbies, and we are definately not avoiding getting hit.

We are going to be competing for a much higher rank, and within the next few rounds we plan to be a strong force in the universe.

This round followed alot of preparation and I am delighted to see where it has gotten us so far.

heh... long way to go yet gl with the rest

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by Filth

heh... long way to go yet gl with the rest

It may be a long way, but we will get there quickly!

[Elder]

Oh indeed, a quick touch onto the ninth now, see if Ven is able to keep that position. I have all faith in them and their ability. Arfy, Truler and Ramses are very capable HCs as well as experienced and skilled players. The members and officers as well are both skilled and loyal, all in all I think Ven has what it takes to survive and grow ever stronger.

Ofc, my opinion can be said to be slightly biased in this case

[Banned]

Ven just took 2k rocks off EX

[Proxi]

I always liked ven, especially Demigod \o/ (much love)

[-=Yggdra=-]

And thats like something to be proud of when everyone is attacking EX?

Line up 10000 people and even a blind man will hit 1 or more of them.

[Kushan]

Keep up the good work Veneratio, its nice to see you guys doing well. I hope you can improve before the end of the round as well.

[APA] Kushan

[Kushan]

Hehe after I posted that I looked at the alliance top 10 and Veneratio have moved upto 9th, that was fast work DemiGOD lol.

[APA] Kushan

[Virall]

Veneratio obviously have an undesrtanding of what it takes to be a good alliance. The differences is, they seem to be implementing it. There are a lot of alliances that are capable of throwing their weight around at many levels, which is nice to see.

Congrats.

[BloodyButcher]

well done etc

[marlos]

Thank you
we have been working hard to get where we are.
And i only see it improving.
And as Arfy, demiGOD & Truler said , we really have to thank the members, and others MOs for such wonderful work.

[Averam]

What else can I say? The HC's have helped pull it all together, the MO's have helped keep it all together, and the Members are the guys that've made all this possible in the first place.

/me would like the thank his Mom, his Dad, his Agent, his Lawyer.........

[Flying Monkey]

Originally Posted by Banned

The real question is: are they achieving anything, or just gaining rank? If they're just roiding newbies and avoiding getting hit, there's not really much to give props to.

Managing rank 9th this early in the round is a great achievement in itself for us, considering we were about 15th at the start.

I only joined ven this round and so far I've been very impressed with our level of organisation and teamwork. Well done to everyone. Heres hoping we can carry on climbing up the ranks

[Marka]

Kudos to Veneratio indeed - honestly didn't expect you to be above us - but there you are
Looking forward to see what you (and we) can do next round.

[Jonas]

Veneratio for the win!

Arfy i wub u when u dont smell(means 2 minutes after youre done showering. At best)

\o/

[Neferti]

Originally Posted by Marka

Cudos to Veneratio indeed - honestly didn't expect you to be above us - but there you are
Looking forward to see what you (and we) can do next round.

It's 'kudos'

Cudos was the name of the IPC-F-Crew-assorted other alliances block in rounds 6 and 7

[Marka]

/me whistles - what you mean ?
Can't see anything wrong :P

[virogenesis]

They have done well so far being the key word I'd personaly like to see them in a war see how they handle themselves because that is when it takes its toll on the members & staff I just wonder how they will cope under pressure but so far good but still early days & personaly attention like this could well destroy an alliance not ready as one of the big boys will want to have a go.
In my opion it could turn pretty interesting seeing them going after ex roids I just wonder if they will live to regret it..

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by virogenesis

In my opion it could turn pretty interesting seeing them going after ex roids I just wonder if they will live to regret it..

Well, we've been doing it for the last 734 ticks so I guess so far its paid off

[demiGOD]

Originally Posted by virogenesis

They have done well so far being the key word I'd personaly like to see them in a war see how they handle themselves because that is when it takes its toll on the members & staff I just wonder how they will cope under pressure but so far good but still early days & personaly attention like this could well destroy an alliance not ready as one of the big boys will want to have a go.
In my opion it could turn pretty interesting seeing them going after ex roids I just wonder if they will live to regret it..

Someone's instigating...

[Fyodor]

Anyone tell me what Veneratio means?(Whats the name syand for) Howd you guys come up with it, etc etc?

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by Fyodor

Anyone tell me what Veneratio means?(Whats the name syand for) Howd you guys come up with it, etc etc?

Actually its interesting you say that - nobody really knows. The guy who decided the name no longer plays and while I am (I think) the longest standing HC I have no idea either.

To be truthful, when we had the *really important meeting* about what our name should be (at this point I was just a high ranked DC) after the merge (we were two tiny alliances just looking for a few more members) I just passed it over and I didn't really care. At the time I hated the name, and I had alot more alliance duties to do, rather than thinking of better ones.

IIRC we came up with it because our 'helper' from the mentors team suggested you can't go wrong with latin.

Although the name has grown on me its still the one thing I dislike about the alliance - however I do like the fact that we are now known as Veneratio and it does seem to fit quite well...

In summary, no I can't tell you what it means

[JonnyBGood]

"Veneratio" is the latin root of the word "veneration". To venerate something means to pay it it's due respects, honour and reverence.


Cool name guys

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Cool name guys

Thanks, I made it up myself :P

[Kal]

Arfy, where are the posts thanking the mentor team of old for turning you into the alliance you are today

[The Real Arfy]

pfft, we'll see if we're still here at the end of the round, then maybe I can hook you up with something

[Rinoa]

Arent they doing well cos they arent targeted by 1up/tof/nos/nd/lch/tot/ex/angels/wp/hr on a nightly basis? going from my gal alone, the veneratio guy has most roids not because he in best ally, but because he has had around 75% less incoming than rest of us involved in a war

[JonnyBGood]

Picking your battles is part of what makes a good alliance.

[The Real Arfy]

Originally Posted by Rinoa

Arent they doing well cos they arent targeted by 1up/tof/nos/nd/lch/tot/ex/angels/wp/hr on a nightly basis? going from my gal alone, the veneratio guy has most roids not because he in best ally, but because he has had around 75% less incoming than rest of us involved in a war

Just because we're not targetted by specific alliances doesn't mean we don't get incomings, and coordinated ones at that.

Yes, we've stayed out of the block war, and talking from a personal point here, I hope we continue in this fashion. I wanted to play as a single alliance more as a means of policy, I hate blocks and plan to keep this alliance away from them for as long as possible, we have come this far on our own and if we have to rely on others to bring us up further, then IMO its not an achievement by us.

To say that we are where we are because we are not targetted by the alliances you mentioned is downright foolish. We are probably the only alliance in the top 20 that gets incomings from each of those alliances night in night out, and we bust our asses to cover them. Yes, the incomings from each alliance are less concentrated (i.e. I'm pretty sure you no longer get ToT/EXi incomings but more 1up/NoS) , but I'd bet its in the same total volume of defcalls as any other alliance around our size.

Not joining a block is the way I feel the game is supposed to be played by alliances, and tbh after all of the fiasco from the last two rounds where blocking has been branded bad, I'm quite disappointed to see that our personal victories have been devalued because we have played the same way we always have.

[Rinoa]

i Never had ToT/Ex incomings it was more used to be 1up/nos etc now WP mainly

But if u are playing solo as you say then yes i guess only Anglels are having a better round than u solo and no dishonour to be the behind them as you are ahead of Vengeance, hirr, vsn etc by a long way.

*edit* i am exluding wp/hr as playing solo atm

[james_s]

arguing about who has incoming off who aside, well done to Veneratio, some good work this round, good to see you guys up their after all your hard work.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by The Real Arfy

Just because we're not targetted by specific alliances doesn't mean we don't get incomings, and coordinated ones at that.

Yes, we've stayed out of the block war, and talking from a personal point here, I hope we continue in this fashion. I wanted to play as a single alliance more as a means of policy, I hate blocks and plan to keep this alliance away from them for as long as possible, we have come this far on our own and if we have to rely on others to bring us up further, then IMO its not an achievement by us.

I couldn't agree more with that. well said

[The Real Arfy]

I have just recieved some pos rep for an earlier post saying the following:

Well sai, but if you grow to fast the day you will face massive incs will come and that is the day we will see the true face of your alliance.

While I agree that our expansion has been quicker than some, I would like to point out that there have been two nights this round where we have lost over 10% and 15% of our roids respectively. We have continued to go out and roid and do our best to recover, and I think that really is the true face of Veneratio. We haven't had any players or MOs burn out due to the tough nights, and for that I thank each member and officer.

WRT the rep, this was not trying to shame you or flame you or anything, just something that I read and realised I appreciated about my alliance, and wanted to express that.

[demiGOD]

I truly think this success so far is solely because of Beermonster.

[E-Choke]

Hmmmm, i think most alliances get incommings, me being in a small alliance I know, smaller alliances just get targetted with the rest as they might be nice targets, nothing more, but you do need to take into account that the people who're in the blockwar get more inc, they get inc a lot more than others, exhausting that alliances capabilities.
So I say : Yeah you're lucky

But luck never lasts, if you become to big other alliances will target you solo, like they are now targetting WP/HR, who weren't in the blockwar themself

[Elder]

Never had much to do with luck

[Gumbie]

Blatently because Demigod doesn't get SiN incs any more.

[demiGOD]

Originally Posted by Gumbie

Blatently because Demigod doesn't get SiN incs any more.

I can tell you some endless R12 stories about SiN incs, but see, that would take forever.