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Unread 19 Nov 2004, 09:50   #1
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Proplus should be illegal

I am about to go to bed, after a night of writing an essay on American politics, I wanted to get it done last night really bad, so I thought I will do an all nighter, last time I did an all nighter, I got a first so i figured lets do another one. So it gets to about midnight, remember im a pa player, so i normally sleep at 4am. At midnight I take a pro plus pill, and follow the procedure on the pack and take another one every hour or 2 hrs, i forget now :/ anyway, i feel well really weird. Should this stuff be legal? Why I ask that?

Well I was in the library yes at 3am :/ like a nerd but to compensate there were hot girls, anyway I was writing my essay, stopping chatting on irc, writing etc etc. Takin fag breaks etc etc, come about 6am, i dropped a book off my desk onto the floor, i bend down to pick it up, i couldnt physically push myself up, my muscles just didnt work, i finally sat up straight again, then noticed my heart pounding really too fast, like real fast, im starting to think am i having a heart attack, my muscles are going, my heart is really fked up, anyway I finished my essay, walked home, and I felt high, I just felt good, but then the heart thing occurred etc etc, anyway bed now this stuff is interesting
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Unread 19 Nov 2004, 09:51   #2
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

oh ye it cost me 99p for this proplus
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Unread 19 Nov 2004, 10:02   #3
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

Taking caffine in large doses and missing regular sleep is ALWAYS dangerous, I remember when i was a student someone died from an overdose of Pro Plus, although i think that they worked out it was deliberate. (he had left workings as to how much he could take to die :S)

However i don't know if it should be banned as i know people who found it quite useful... personally only needed Coca Cola to keep me awake.

I seem to remember doing a 36hr stretch on an essay once, and i got a pretty good mark for it too i seem to remember.

I'm sure MrMighty will disprove this entire story though
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

I have a friend who pops a pro plus every 2 hours when at LANs (for about 72 hours straight) with no ill effects.

I also know someone who took one and was flapping about like a Paraplegic for 20 mins before we had to walk him to A&E.

Some people have no tolerance (diabetics being the obvious example) at all for caffeine, others do. The warnings are on the packs though so it shouldn't be illegal.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

yeah, it depends entirely upon the individuals tolerance
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

if it hadnt been for pro plus im sure i would have failed my first year.

and as for the dosage thing, i normally take them 4 at a time a few times along the length of an all nighter, depending on how i feel. Ive had no ill effects whatsoever though.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

I've found that pro-plus deosn't make you less tired. Just stops you sleeping.
Red bull if you actually want energy.
Actually i usually take a mixture of the two, and try not to take more than 4 in a night.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

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I've found that pro-plus deosn't make you less tired. Just stops you sleeping.
Red bull if you actually want energy.
Actually i usually take a mixture of the two, and try not to take more than 4 in a night.
Ah Red Bull.... Pinging MrMighty to tell the melon story.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

To stay awake, I find VK-blue to be the best thing. However, you'll also be pissed, so probably not the best idea with essays to write
To wake yourself up in the morning, sugar (in the form of coke/lucozade etc.) is much better (to me...) than caffeine, though a cup (the mug I use is larger than 2 standard mugs!) of coffee in the morning is always good.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

I've never really needed pro plus, and I'm generally a bit mistrustful of that sort of thing anyway.
Anyway, like you I often go to sleep pretty late normally, so the only difference is really just a couple more hours and a whole lot of boring work.
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VK-Blue is the most ****ing disgusting drink ever.

EDIT: Actually, having thought about it i believe that accolade is reserved for WKD Silver. :eek:
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

Caffeine is considered to possibly lethal at a dose of 1grams (for low tolerance). Seeing as each Pro Plus pill is 50mg, you would need to take 20 pills within a short time of each other (assuming you weren't getting caffeine from any other source) to be in real danger (of a caffeine OD, other factors such as a weak heart could mean the caffeine causes other problems).

Any form of CNS stimulant can cause mild euphoria in mild doses (which would explain why you felt so good), and raise the heart rate considerably (thus the feeling of tightness in your chest).

And Pro plus shouldn't be illegal. But then again nor should any other drug.

(Next time you want to stay awake to do things like write an essay, I recommend either Epherdrine or Ginseng).
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VK-Blue is the most ****ing disgusting drink ever.

EDIT: Actually, having thought about it i believe that accolade is reserved for WKD Silver. :eek:
Stop drinking alcopops you southern pansies.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

I would also like to condemn the drinking of alcopops.

PS Try whiskey and coffee beans. It worked really well for a friend of mine last year, he went for nearly 5 days without sleep
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

i have taken 12 pro plus at once and it had no effect (was a few years ago like and looking back i probably wouldnt do it again)
so now i just drink lots of sugary drinks, it seems to work, although i do end up shaking a lot and twitching occationally
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And I thought you were just ma mah ma ma... uh crazy.
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you big ****ing panzy


i ATE a pack of proplus. like the entire silver strip thing which is what? 10 tablets??

all at once
i did notice heart pulpitations tho....
got my essay done quick however.


p.s. my epenis is also huge.
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Stop drinking alcopops you southern pansies.
I only drink alcopops when somebody buys me one.

Normally i can be found (though god knows why) drinking shots of anything from straight vodka and whiskey through to Absynth - the most lethal foul-tasting shot ever created.

Social drinking consists of (British and therefore piss-plavoured) guiness or carling/grolsch.

PS our SU bar is rather limited on the drinks front.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

In my experience people who can take a lot of proplus without feeling major ill effects are on drugs of some description. (Anything to tell us JJ? :eek: )
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

Pro plus seems to have little effect on me :(
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Unread 19 Nov 2004, 19:13   #23
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

i dont take drugs or 'do' them

i didnt say i didnt feel the effects

it made me feel like crap once the caffeine high had worn off.
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Re: Proplus should be illegal

Never had 'proplus', I much prefer coffee as I'm more into the taste than purely just a caffeine boost.

However my highest dosage would be on par with JJ, as 1 cup of expresso = 100mg = 2 x proplus tablets. I had 5 cups in a half hour period. I recall my heart racing superspeed (though not to the point of palpitations). I was talking a million miles an hour and probably became the most social I've ever been in my life (typically I'm one of those guys that sit at the back and doesn't say much). And of course I was pissing like there was no tommorow.

It certainly wasn't a fun experience though.
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