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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

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But tbh, bows did defend better than ND, pingu and Norse this round.
Bows defense has been continuously underrated since last round I find.

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Is this an application, CBA?
But tbh, bows did defend better than ND, pingu and Norse this round.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Maybe we get to see BF and Ult fight it out next round. I know Chimpie is itching for some real competition and from memory both alliances love to defend. So it could be good fun turtle vs turtle for #1
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Maybe we get to see BF and Ult fight it out next round. I know Chimpie is itching for some real competition and from memory both alliances love to defend. So it could be good fun turtle vs turtle for #1
Realy doubt anyone will be able to compete with Ultores in the near future, certainly not Black-Flag.
If anything a new alliance strong enough to match Ultores could challenge them, but seeing Black-Flag is returning, and no other alliances seems to be likely to disband for next round i dont see this happening.
Last rounds politics in some way dictates what will happend next round, and i doubt any big anti Ult collition is likely to appear, most likely those that dosnt NAP ult will be twatted.
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Unread 4 May 2017, 06:42   #406
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

I thought the same about FaNG coming back. I nearly started a new alliance but didn't bother, thought FaNG would fight Ult and make the round interesting.

Turns out FaNG just napped ult and spent the time escorting their top planets (the current #1 for instance has had escorts since the start).
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I thought the same about FaNG coming back. I nearly started a new alliance but didn't bother, thought FaNG would fight Ult and make the round interesting.

Turns out FaNG just napped ult and spent the time escorting their top planets (the current #1 for instance has had escorts since the start).
You mustve been the only one who thought they would fight Ult, most of us predicted they would do what they did.
And funny thing is, BF will be basicly FAnG with the addition of nelito and other class acts, though maybe they are less likely to NAP ult for planet ranks.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Completely incorrect Black Flag will be nothing like fang, fang had a shocker this round, but we will just have to wait and see
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Completely incorrect Black Flag will be nothing like fang, fang had a shocker this round, but we will just have to wait and see
If BF have the balls to go up against Ult instead of join them, I will likely apply (veto's allowing!)

If they don't, well I probably won't play.

Who knows, eh.
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If BF have the balls to go up against Ult instead of join them, I will likely apply (veto's allowing!)

If they don't, well I probably won't play.

Who knows, eh.
This is generally BF's M.O.

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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Interesting that so many people have a better idea than I do about how BF politics is going to be like next round.

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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

This is R71 prediction, drama and fun thread. Please post your nonsense about BF to R7X (where X is not even necessarily 2), to a thread that revolves around that round. Also any other BS thread will do too, as it's utter bollo**s in here as usually
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If BF have the balls to go up against Ult instead of join them, I will likely apply (veto's allowing!)

If they don't, well I probably won't play.

Who knows, eh.
That's a kinda strange attitude. You should focus on yourself and not care about what others do with each other.
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That's a kinda strange attitude. You should focus on yourself and not care about what others do with each other.
Why is it a strange attitude?

I don't want to play a game in which everyone just turns round and bends over for another alliance.
And it is very clear (regardless of what people might say about 'just get more active people') that there isn't the member base or new players joining to be able to get enough actives together, so if those capable of fighting just nap up, there is no point in playing.

People sometimes think I fight ult because I don't like them. This isn't true. It is because they are at the top and I believe we should be playing to win.

If that isn't possible, or I don't enjoy it, I won't play.

Let's face it, it is a dying game in which the main aim of most people is just to spoil other people's rounds.
Ult is busy winning whilst lower alliances are like 'hahaha let's fc someone in (enter shitty alliance here) for lols.

If in the right place I care enough to play, but I don't care enough to fight just to be a puppy to ult.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

It is actually why Ult win. Not because they are the best (they are, but that isn't why they are so dominant) but because it is the only alliance to play in if you want to consistently play serious (and be that I mean, genuinely play for alliance win, not do what fang did which is just get a couple of top planets and have mass escorts on for them all round which is lame (lo EM).
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Why is it a strange attitude?

I don't want to play a game in which everyone just turns round and bends over for another alliance.
And it is very clear (regardless of what people might say about 'just get more active people') that there isn't the member base or new players joining to be able to get enough actives together, so if those capable of fighting just nap up, there is no point in playing.

People sometimes think I fight ult because I don't like them. This isn't true. It is because they are at the top and I believe we should be playing to win.

If that isn't possible, or I don't enjoy it, I won't play.

Let's face it, it is a dying game in which the main aim of most people is just to spoil other people's rounds.
Ult is busy winning whilst lower alliances are like 'hahaha let's fc someone in (enter shitty alliance here) for lols.

If in the right place I care enough to play, but I don't care enough to fight just to be a puppy to ult.
I dont think all Ult players are more active than everyone else, im pretty sure that there is a lot of active players out there that is putting way more time into the game than the average Ult member.
The problem is that a lot of these people are clowns, and usualy only investing energy in their own goals or their own planets/gals.

Also, "playing FTW" as a alliance just isnt sustainable, unless you have a lot of time on your hand, and members willing to sacrifice their other life for majority of the year. eXiltion was known for only playing every other round, as they knew once they had won one round it was unlikely they would win the next round, as it cost too much energy.
Today PA is way way way more high paced than it was back then, and the changes thats been added the last 5 years or so has just pushed this pace higher and higher for each round. Compared to when 1up/eXi played, the average planet has twice the daily fleet movements as they had back then.

So, most alliances does what CT did this round, they NAP Ult, blame it on someone else, and says they "Had to NAP Ult".
BF comming back will not change anything with the current universe politics, the wins they had was in rounds where they had it easy, or where they were kingmade by the universe.
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@Forest: how many time did you get up at night and DCed? And how many def fleets did you launch to your alliance? In my eyes a strong alliance consists of 70% dedicated Hc, BC, DC team and the rest is brought by active members doing what they're told.

From my little experience this active core exists in ult, bf and app. Just sitting there enjoying nights of full sleep while complaining about other allies sacrificing this sounds like a lazy excuse. That's no offense, but have you ever considered being more active to reach better results?
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

Black Flag did put in effort and had adequate defence in the rounds we won. It's not like we napped the universe and relied only on politics. If you look at the beta.planetarion stats of the rounds we won, you can clearly see that we were actively defending.

You can babble out what you perceived as how Black Flag has won, but I know on a personal level that our members have put in effort to ensure an adequate defence structure. (I used the word 'adequate' because I'm not suggesting strong defence.)

And just to clarify, it is not set in stone that Black Flag is playing next round as it depends on what sort of member-base we can achieve. If it ends up being half-assed, then we won't bother. So please stop making presumptions. And besides, the Planetarion community is so toxic it's not really worth the energy to do a reunion round - I know I personally don't want to go through 6 weeks of abuse and your constant whining why 'Black Flag' is the Nazis of Planetarion. As soon as an alliance comes back, you all pounce with hostilities before the round even starts.

Speculate away, but I guarantee you that you that if myself, ChronoX / NoXiouS doesn't want to do a round, then it won't happen.
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A lot of tags are actively defending, especialy if they win rounds, but i think its a pretty big ask for any alliance to get 2 tags actively defending like Ult/Ast is.
Yeah, those rounds BF won it was only 2-3 alliances that was more active defending, or sending out more defence fleets, combine that with less incs than the rest of the contenders and you usualy have a winning reciept.

Saying that Black-Flag prolly wont be much better than every other tag allready out there if they were to return is just based on guesses, what do i know what you got up your sleeves.
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Re: R71 Prediction, drama, and fun thread.

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Why is it a strange attitude?

I don't want to play a game in which everyone just turns round and bends over for another alliance.
And it is very clear (regardless of what people might say about 'just get more active people') that there isn't the member base or new players joining to be able to get enough actives together, so if those capable of fighting just nap up, there is no point in playing.

People sometimes think I fight ult because I don't like them. This isn't true. It is because they are at the top and I believe we should be playing to win.

If that isn't possible, or I don't enjoy it, I won't play.

Let's face it, it is a dying game in which the main aim of most people is just to spoil other people's rounds.
Ult is busy winning whilst lower alliances are like 'hahaha let's fc someone in (enter shitty alliance here) for lols.

If in the right place I care enough to play, but I don't care enough to fight just to be a puppy to ult.
This.

If Ult are too active to beat 1:1, then gangbang them until they are not #1. Why does it need to be a fair fight when they are the ones winning and have all the roids?

What is the point in joining an Ult block and finishing below them in rank?
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@Forest: how many time did you get up at night and DCed? And how many def fleets did you launch to your alliance? In my eyes a strong alliance consists of 70% dedicated Hc, BC, DC team and the rest is brought by active members doing what they're told.

From my little experience this active core exists in ult, bf and app. Just sitting there enjoying nights of full sleep while complaining about other allies sacrificing this sounds like a lazy excuse. That's no offense, but have you ever considered being more active to reach better results?
I am plenty active enough, but thank you for your advice.
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I am plenty active enough, but thank you for your advice.
He doesn't mean anything by it bro.

It's simply that he is defending his tag.

And Dorf don't speak to a pa legend like That again man
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What is the point in joining an Ult block and finishing below them in rank?
I would suggest that helping alliances that threaten them directly is a tough pill to swallow, but hey, what do i know..
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He doesn't mean anything by it bro.

It's simply that he is defending his tag.

And Dorf don't speak to a pa legend like That again man
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