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Unread 2 Oct 2017, 20:01   #1
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Round 74 Predictions

Maybe a bit early but, i don't really care?

New alliances/Returning: V&D,Heresy,Faceless apart from that id say its the usual's (p3n & FAnG are not playing)


#1. Ultores
#2. Faceless
#3. VGN
#4. NewDawn
#5. Apprime
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2nd? Pfft.
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2nd? Pfft.
Not sure of the size but id assume something like that
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Re: Round 74 Predictions

Ultores win I don't see any competition.
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Re: Round 74 Predictions

Quick! Let's all form a block against them.

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Quick! Let's all form a block against them.

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Fang didn't last long with the almighty return of Irvine.
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Fang didn't last long with the almighty return of Irvine.
It was never gonna be the same and from what I saw Shaz did 90% of the work anyway. I think his head was in it but not his heart, hence the failed return.

Shame though, the game kinda needed someone like that to make it interesting again.

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Irv was barely even online last round
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Fang didn't last long with the almighty return of Irvine.
The amount of incs per member FAnG had last round has only be beaten by Ultores the last few years of PA, so its no wonder we didnt manage to compete last round.
And as for this round, we allready knew half our HC team(myself/irvine/bazza) would retire/go vacation/go to some other tag a long long time ago.

Btw, did the Ultores HCs give in for your request to set up scan bots over there? I heard you guys comming from BF had asked the HCs in Ult to set it up, as did the ex BF people ask me to set it up in FAnG last round.
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The amount of incs per member FAnG had last round has only be beaten by Ultores the last few years of PA, so its no wonder we didnt manage to compete last round.
And as for this round, we allready knew half our HC team(myself/irvine/bazza) would retire/go vacation/go to some other tag a long long time ago.

Btw, did the Ultores HCs give in for your request to set up scan bots over there? I heard you guys comming from BF had asked the HCs in Ult to set it up, as did the ex BF people ask me to set it up in FAnG last round.
Who needs bots when you have xyph
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The amount of incs per member FAnG had last round has only be beaten by Ultores the last few years of PA, so its no wonder we didnt manage to compete last round.
And as for this round, we allready knew half our HC team(myself/irvine/bazza) would retire/go vacation/go to some other tag a long long time ago.

Btw, did the Ultores HCs give in for your request to set up scan bots over there? I heard you guys comming from BF had asked the HCs in Ult to set it up, as did the ex BF people ask me to set it up in FAnG last round.
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It was never gonna be the same and from what I saw Shaz did 90% of the work anyway. I think his head was in it but not his heart, hence the failed return.

Shame though, the game kinda needed someone like that to make it interesting again.

When are you back?
Shaz is really nice.
Irvine again only boosted other tags instead of trying to build his own. Thats no way to add interest to the game apart from number of tags ran.

No offence ment and no tags should be lost, but aslong as new ones arises its all cool. Hope em 3 HCs gets some rest.
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Shaz is really nice.
Irvine again only boosted other tags instead of trying to build his own.
And which tags did he try to boost? Working with 'allies' doesn't necessarily mean he was boosting them.
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And which tags did he try to boost? Working with 'allies' doesn't necessarily mean he was boosting them.
I think he means that FAnG are boosting other tags with players as FAnG arnt playing this round.
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I think he means that FAnG are boosting other tags with players as FAnG arnt playing this round.
How did you get that from what he said??!!!!

He meant Irvine was using Fang as a rent-a-mob to help others climb the ranks with no thought of personal tag ranking. That was pretty obvious
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How did you get that from what he said??!!!!

He meant Irvine was using Fang as a rent-a-mob to help others climb the ranks with no thought of personal tag ranking. That was pretty obvious
Nah, that clearly wasnt what he meant.
Must be that FAnG is helping peopoe this round.
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If Ave was referring to FAnG players joining other tags, he would've used the present-tense, however the context he used was in past-tense which suggests he was referring to the last round.
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Re: Round 74 Predictions

Well to clarify some of last rounds PA politics, some logs wich could be an interesting read:

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B-Butch3r, [24.08.17 10:48]
Yo

VGN, [24.08.17 11:31]
Greetings

B-Butch3r, [24.08.17 12:15]
So the other HCs messages dont seem to get answered, so theyve sent me to ask if you want a CF

VGN, [24.08.17 16:32]
Well I will have to ask the others of course as we do enjoy a democratic conflab about such items.
Once we have reached a decision on this thorny topic I will of course inform you as speedily as humanly possible.

VGN, [24.08.17 18:19]
If you want a NAP with VGN you would have to NAP Apprime ND Lionz Kittenz and HR as well

B-Butch3r, [24.08.17 18:19]
No, we want a NAP with VGN, not the entire universe

VGN, [24.08.17 18:20]
Everything has strings attached

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[08-30, 10:43 AM] FAnG: Want to deal
[08-30, 10:44 AM] avenger: Talking to others
[08-30, 10:44 AM] FAnG: Ok keep me posted
[08-30, 11:49 AM] FAnG: So?
[08-30, 12:02 PM] avenger: So far no one likes u ��
[08-30, 12:03 PM] avenger: Well butcher/irvine/fang
[08-30, 12:03 PM] FAnG: Ok then so no deal
[08-30, 12:04 PM] avenger: Seems so. But thanks for your time m8. Our allies aint too keen on u.

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So clearly Avenger must be talking about FAnG boosting other tags with players this round, not boosting other tags to the top last round, as he was apart of the political discussions himself last round, and he know very well what happend.
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U were counting on BF r72 and Ult on r73. Tell me u aimed for rank1?
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U were counting on BF r72 and Ult on r73. Tell me u aimed for rank1?
I was with BowS R72, and we wernt aiming for #1 as we were 40 members. Im sure FAnG wasnt even less members than us if its them your aiming at?

R73 we tried to stop the constant incs towards us so we could go for #1, even though we were around average size rank10-15 for 3/4 of the round we didnt manage to get any NAPs with you guys.

So, yes, if we didnt want to aim to get into a position to challenge for #1, why would we ever offer the deal we did, or say we would accept the terms that KittenZ(YOU!) demanded?
The seven headed serpent of R73(HR/App/KittenZ/LionZ/ND/VGN) had no intention to hit each other or give any other tag the chance to go for #1, trying to blame it on someone else is laughable.
If you want me to release all the logs of convos you had with FAnG last round, im sure i could manage to do that?
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the **** does this BS have to do with R74 predictions bitcher?


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1) Ultores
2) ND
3) Apprime
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the **** does this BS have to do with R74 predictions bitcher?
Everything.
Everyone should know not to try invade Russia in the winter for the unforseen future, or something like that...


and its me trying to explain why Ave must be talking about this round anywayz aint it?
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R72 Fang would have ended high on our wing. Instead they complained due 2 days of incomings and continued support BF.

R73 Ult was so strong that anyone allied to them played only from rank 2. Not saying all should block on them, but it was the criteria to aim for rank 1. If u wana publish logs. Go ahead, I made not too many insults I think, but wana start from convo with Irvine? 😊 Kills your theory and saves endless amount of space from my political views.
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R73 Ult was so strong that anyone allied to them played only from rank 2. Not saying all should block on them, but it was the criteria to aim for rank 1. If u wana publish logs. Go ahead, I made not too many insults I think, but wana start from convo with Irvine? 😊 Kills your theory and saves endless amount of space from my political views.
If everyone knew that you c*cks*ckers started with your "IF YOU WANT TO NAP KITTENZ U HAVE TO NAP VGN/ND/LIONZ/APP/THERISING/PATSA/HR ASWELL" long before ticks even started perhaps they wouldve left you earlier last round. So please, go ahead.

KittenZ has been ruining PA for far too long allready, thank god you seem to be gone as a alliance allready. Its kinda impressive someone without any political integrity, who based their whole existent on pre-round mega blocks and personal vendetta wars even lasted as long as you did.
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If everyone knew that you c*cks*ckers started with your "IF YOU WANT TO NAP KITTENZ U HAVE TO NAP VGN/ND/LIONZ/APP/THERISING/PATSA/HR ASWELL" long before ticks even started perhaps they wouldve left you earlier last round. So please, go ahead.

KittenZ has been ruining PA for far too long allready, thank god you seem to be gone as a alliance allready. Its kinda impressive someone without any political integrity, who based their whole existent on pre-round mega blocks and personal vendetta wars even lasted as long as you did.
Hahahaha

KittenZ is the reason there has been a non app/ult winner for 2 rounds now. But if that means a ruined game, ok. I can live with the statement as the two supposedly strongest tags probably would deserve the win. Luckily their competition towards each others opens up the game for some others too.

Barking the wrong tree with your misinformation. Ask your leaders some facts before u go further. r73 we had 2 official political deals, NAP with ND and allie with VGN. Oh and one ceasefire of 100ish ticks with Norse.

Wasn't it u doing personal vendettas round 72 killing your tag. Maybe you are mixing bows and KittenZ?

We are around as u know, so stop the nonsense. Also 2 new tags has arisen from our lines. So dunno really what are you complaining about.
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KittenZ is the reason there has been a non app/ult winner for 2 rounds now.
Really?

Nothing to do with App and Ult knocking seven shades of sh*t out of each other?
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Really?

Nothing to do with App and Ult knocking seven shades of sh*t out of each other?
tbh i thought, it was because i was playing both rounds...
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Hahahaha

KittenZ is the reason there has been a non app/ult winner for 2 rounds now. But if that means a ruined game, ok. I can live with the statement as the two supposedly strongest tags probably would deserve the win. Luckily their competition towards each others opens up the game for some others too.

Barking the wrong tree with your misinformation. Ask your leaders some facts before u go further. r73 we had 2 official political deals, NAP with ND and allie with VGN. Oh and one ceasefire of 100ish ticks with Norse.

Wasn't it u doing personal vendettas round 72 killing your tag. Maybe you are mixing bows and KittenZ?

We are around as u know, so stop the nonsense. Also 2 new tags has arisen from our lines. So dunno really what are you complaining about.

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Hahahaha

KittenZ is the reason there has been a non app/ult winner for 2 rounds now. But if that means a ruined game, ok. I can live with the statement as the two supposedly strongest tags probably would deserve the win. Luckily their competition towards each others opens up the game for some others too.
Out of the nearly 20000 incomming fleets Ult/App has recieved the last 3 rounds, KittenZ has been sending under 1k of those.
What KittenZ have been focusing on is attacking part-tags, that aint in the top5 and dosnt have 50+ members, and NAPing Ultores/Apprime instead.
When did NAPing Apprime/Ultores become the best way to beat them?

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Barking the wrong tree with your misinformation. Ask your leaders some facts before u go further. r73 we had 2 official political deals, NAP with ND and allie with VGN. Oh and one ceasefire of 100ish ticks with Norse.
I dont give a fck how many "official deals" you had, im just pointing out the fact that you did your politics long before the round began, and if one was to strike a deal with the 120 planet kittenz tag it had to include a few hundre extra planets in addition to this.
Sure, you prolly by accident didnt send any fleets at apprime all round basicly, even though they were the fattest alliance by far for big parts of the round, by random fcking chance.

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Wasn't it u doing personal vendettas round 72 killing your tag. Maybe you are mixing bows and KittenZ?

I think we went through this "personal vendetta" thing you claim bows had with other tags in a thread earlier.
If you can come up with one log, or even one little incident, from the past 10-15 rounds BowS played where we decided to attack/pursue someone based on our personal feeling towards to them, please show me.
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But your a moron aswell CBA, no wonder you back up other morons.
Im sure a lot of these moronic claims he come up with originate from you initialy anyway.


Im sure CT/p3ng/ND/etc is still thanking you for your contribution the other round while they were fighting Ult.
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But your a moron aswell CBA, no wonder you back up other morons.
Im sure a lot of these moronic claims he come up with originate from you initialy anyway.


Im sure CT/p3ng/ND/etc is still thanking you for your contribution the other round while they were fighting Ult.
WOOOOWW Buddy, stop. No need to take your anger out on my boy and youtube star CBA.

Look I am sure you and the princess gang will do well this rnd, you will certainly get a chance to whine about how unfair the game is to the common peasent and potatopicker, while King Xerxes and Queen Agar3s feasts in the hall of heroes.
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Out of the nearly 20000 incomming fleets Ult/App has recieved the last 3 rounds, KittenZ has been sending under 1k of those.
What KittenZ have been focusing on is attacking part-tags, that aint in the top5 and dosnt have 50+ members, and NAPing Ultores/Apprime instead.
When did NAPing Apprime/Ultores become the best way to beat them?



I dont give a fck how many "official deals" you had, im just pointing out the fact that you did your politics long before the round began, and if one was to strike a deal with the 120 planet kittenz tag it had to include a few hundre extra planets in addition to this.
Sure, you prolly by accident didnt send any fleets at apprime all round basicly, even though they were the fattest alliance by far for big parts of the round, by random fcking chance.




I think we went through this "personal vendetta" thing you claim bows had with other tags in a thread earlier.
If you can come up with one log, or even one little incident, from the past 10-15 rounds BowS played where we decided to attack/pursue someone based on our personal feeling towards to them, please show me.
The hatred and anger is unreal!!!

Surely the one redeeming feature of PA during its time is the different gamestyles used to win it. Politucs/no politics, naps/no naps, xp, value, sitting in c200, defending, farming, initing have all been ways to win the round. Who made you king on how the game 'should' be played. Its the innovation on how to play it that keeps it going! You are nothing more than an outdated bitter old man whose tags have only won in the rounds he didnt play for them.
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Really?

Nothing to do with App and Ult knocking seven shades of sh*t out of each other?
You are totally right about that. Helps to read the whole post tho. 😚
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The hatred and anger is unreal!!!

Surely the one redeeming feature of PA during its time is the different gamestyles used to win it. Politucs/no politics, naps/no naps, xp, value, sitting in c200, defending, farming, initing have all been ways to win the round. Who made you king on how the game 'should' be played. Its the innovation on how to play it that keeps it going! You are nothing more than an outdated bitter old man whose tags have only won in the rounds he didnt play for them.
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The whine and anger becomes real when people are "sabotaging" rounds by ruining them with bad politics.
Im pretty sure i got a log of someone complaining about how pointless their round was due to politics 2 rounds ago?


Im not the king who decides how PA should be played, im just one of many who share his thoughts on how politics has screwed over the game the last few rounds.

When alliances go into rounds with pre-blocks wich is agreed to extend untill EOR, you kill off all of the natural and entertaining dynamics of the game.
KittyCatZ 120 man allie didnt go into last round with the intention to fight for a win, they realized they couldnt get one for free and decided to give up pt400, and kingmaking some other tag.

Is this the type of allie you think will improve this game Kai?
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When alliances go into rounds with pre-blocks wich is agreed to extend untill EOR, you kill off all of the natural and entertaining dynamics of the game.
KittyCatZ 120 man allie didnt go into last round with the intention to fight for a win, they realized they couldnt get one for free and decided to give up pt400, and kingmaking some other tag.

Is this the type of allie you think will improve this game Kai?
As our side won and we had equal chance to get the win. I find your statement funny. Its true we sucked and had no slightest chance in the end.
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Out of the nearly 20000 incomming fleets Ult/App has recieved the last 3 rounds, KittenZ has been sending under 1k of those.
What KittenZ have been focusing on is attacking part-tags, that aint in the top5 and dosnt have 50+ members, and NAPing Ultores/Apprime instead.
When did NAPing Apprime/Ultores become the best way to beat them?



I dont give a fck how many "official deals" you had, im just pointing out the fact that you did your politics long before the round began, and if one was to strike a deal with the 120 planet kittenz tag it had to include a few hundre extra planets in addition to this.
Sure, you prolly by accident didnt send any fleets at apprime all round basicly, even though they were the fattest alliance by far for big parts of the round, by random fcking chance.




I think we went through this "personal vendetta" thing you claim bows had with other tags in a thread earlier.
If you can come up with one log, or even one little incident, from the past 10-15 rounds BowS played where we decided to attack/pursue someone based on our personal feeling towards to them, please show me.
I'm pretty sure you guys had a hard on for heroes at some stage due to some personal issues, of course I could be wrong and it was just because we stole your ships
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#1 Ultores (by a distance)
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