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Unread 9 Nov 2014, 11:42   #151
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isolate and fight your direct enemy? in a war game?

which bit is wrong?
I didn't say anything was wrong with it. I just corrected Chimpie's statement on the fact. If anyone feels anything is wrong with it that's for them to decide. It is a bit hypocritical to give others bullshit for something you have personally done in order to win a round tho.
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It is a bit hypocritical to give others bullshit for something you have personally done in order to win a round tho.
Kinda what i was trying to point out. I see Forest is washing his hands in regards to that one tho, but the double standards reoccurs regarding sharing private pm's. And no Forest, there is not one rule for you and one for the rest. However looking at Influence's post about pastebin i'd say that you flag one set of moral standards, and live by another. I've found stuff i've told you in the past find it's way back to me from other sources, tho not direct quotes, so i'd say it's not a singular incident.
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Unread 9 Nov 2014, 19:31   #153
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I didn't say anything was wrong with it. I just corrected Chimpie's statement on the fact. If anyone feels anything is wrong with it that's for them to decide. It is a bit hypocritical to give others bullshit for something you have personally done in order to win a round tho.

I would say its not the same thing.

There is a big difference between trying to isolate an enemy and fight them 1 v 1, as I did, and what they did, which was to actively try and fight inf 2,3,4-1.

If you don't have the balls or the ability to fight 1 v 1 that's fine, but don't get several alliances hitting someone and then claim it is the same thing.

I reiterate, I believe Inf would destroy pen 1 v 1 and BF 1 v 1 and nothing I have seen suggests otherwise. Infact I would go as far as to say that with the massive incs that inf had, they are remarkable close to p3n, who have napped everyone and still needed friends to wage war.
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Re: Round 59 gossip thread

You clearly have not been paying attention to the forums over the last few rounds. 1 v 1 fights don't happen any more!
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lol please. You did some good BC work the round Spore won, but it was Zhil's politics that won them the round. Take the pre-round deal you had with Vikings (which was key to your victory might I add). If anyone other than Zhil asked to work with them, they would've simply declined.

Spore won because Vikings were stuck in an agreement with them whereby if one was being blocked, the other would come to their aid. When Spore got blocked, we were bound by the agreement to assist (I considered us being your lapdogs). When we aided you, Ultores got pissed and hit us instead, which in turn disbanded the block.

What I find ironic is when Ultores were hitting us and Spore had minimal incomings for that period, when we asked for your support, you wanted to hit CT instead. I don't blame RexDrax/co for ending the agreement with you, it was a lopsided deal where Spore only did what benefited Spore.

I'm not criticising Spore, it's actually to the contrary, I'm merely pointing out that Zhil played a good political round.

While I had the utmost respect for Vikings (thus why a deal was started), I naturally always had Spore interests at heart whenever I conducted politics.

The Vikings/Spore deal I saw as a crucial deal to a victory for EITHER alliance. (Naturally I hoped it would be Spore to get that)

I think there were a variety of reasons really to the meltdown of the deal but from my perspective it had done it's job thankfully to allow Spore the victory. I don't recall Vikings asking for Spore assistance though when we dropped the deal with CT? Or is this in regards to us targeting CT for one night and you Ultores? If the latter, it was advised to me to do so by my military experts and as many know, I rarely go against my military specialists.

Spore won because it managed to isolate its competitors until it was too late politically. It also won due to much improved discipline within its ranks leading to less crashes and less waste of score.
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Re: Round 59 gossip thread

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I would say its not the same thing.

There is a big difference between trying to isolate an enemy and fight them 1 v 1, as I did, and what they did, which was to actively try and fight inf 2,3,4-1.
It might sound cleaner to isolate an enemy, but in the end those fleets you nap need to launch somewhere and if it aint gonna be on you... It might not have dominated the round as such, but as a cath alliance with no incs for the first 400 ticks, the uncatchable valuelead you built while half the uni slowed down ult is what made spore able to fight 1 v. 1 later on at all. To even claim it to be a 1 v. 1 is ridiculos, cause it effectively weren't the first half of the round, and it weren't the second half of the round.

That being said, my views might be colored by stuff you've told me in the past in PM's, wich i won't share here without your consent(even if they contradict your ability to sit on a white horse claiming to oppose way unbalanced blocks).
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Unread 10 Nov 2014, 00:12   #157
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Re: Round 59 gossip thread

Lol forest you are either naieve or just a liar. When you ran politics for 24 hours perhaps you missed 99% of the facts.

Inferno weren't ever one on one with p3n or with bf. You were using plenty of other allies to do your work for you including nd and HR. In fact we even had a member join his old gal chan to find you all sat in there selecting gals to hit.

Stop claiming to be the hero that deserves the medal of bravery. You are just as bad as everyone else. Secret politics don't suit you one bit when you get outed so easily.

I enjoy seeing inferno hc slate each other so readily. I feel sorry for the members who have to follow hc who show no respect for each other, real inspirational leadership from self proclaimed geniuses.
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Lol forest you are either naieve or just a liar. When you ran politics for 24 hours perhaps you missed 99% of the facts.

Inferno weren't ever one on one with p3n or with bf. You were using plenty of other allies to do your work for you including nd and HR. In fact we even had a member join his old gal chan to find you all sat in there selecting gals to hit.

Stop claiming to be the hero that deserves the medal of bravery. You are just as bad as everyone else. Secret politics don't suit you one bit when you get outed so easily.

I enjoy seeing inferno hc slate each other so readily. I feel sorry for the members who have to follow hc who show no respect for each other, real inspirational leadership from self proclaimed geniuses.
RainbowS were attacking gals with BF in them, but thats normaly how we start out our rounds
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RainbowS were attacking gals with BF in them, but thats normaly how we start out our rounds
You weren't last round as you were allied to BF from more or less the beginning of the round.

Tell me bitcher, how is it you're losing a war with rats when it's 2vs1? (Rainbows/ND vs rats.)
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You weren't last round as you were allied to BF from more or less the beginning of the round.

Tell me bitcher, how is it you're losing a war with rats when it's 2vs1? (Rainbows/ND vs rats.)
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You weren't last round as you were allied to BF from more or less the beginning of the round.

Tell me bitcher, how is it you're losing a war with rats when it's 2vs1? (Rainbows/ND vs rats.)
Lol, i think i even got logs where u said u purposely target us in the beginning of last round.

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Lol, unless Ultores magicly acuired 90 more fleets over the past night i guess its no longer 1vs1.
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Lol, i think i even got logs where u said u purposely target us in the beginning of last round.

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Lol, unless Ultores magicly acuired 90 more fleets over the past night i guess its no longer 1vs1.
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No longer 2v1 you mean?
Something along that line yes.
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How ever i think the inc stats this round will be very interesting, so many active attacking tags in a overly NAPed univers.
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pals can we stop talking about how shiny a previous round was and return to talking about how shiny this one is.
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Lol forest you are either naieve or just a liar. When you ran politics for 24 hours perhaps you missed 99% of the facts. .
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Inferno weren't ever one on one with p3n or with bf. You were using plenty of other allies to do your work for you including nd and HR. In fact we even had a member join his old gal chan to find you all sat in there selecting gals to hit. .
That member joined the evening after inf hc had spent all afternoon trying to arrange a deal. you refused and acted like a d*ck so I grabbed some ppl to hit you. nd agreed to join because you hit them the night before. HR agreed to join, they didn't state their reasons I don't think. but both those actions came after you refused any kind of avoidance other than a full avoidance. I did it out of spite, im like that.

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Stop claiming to be the hero that deserves the medal of bravery. You are just as bad as everyone else. Secret politics don't suit you one bit when you get outed so easily..
I don't think I have ever asked for a medal of bravery. But now you mention it, I want one!!!!! can it be pink?
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I am not, and never have been at any time, inferno hc. I was just helping out some friends at their request.
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Lol, unless Ultores magicly acuired 90 more fleets over the past night i guess its no longer 1vs1.
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The funniest part of all this is that you probably caused more bad than good with your short visit back in the politics. And no, this is not a threat to anyone. Just means that everyone touched by your plans and deals should now seriously consider that why those deals were made and who was the actual beneficiary...
Taking into account your current position and the unwavering will to win.
Even Farmer-Bob should be able to connect a few dots... and I'm sure that he can provide a white horse for you, he's very... avid at getting things that are otherwise rather hard to get.

The politics this round... rather strange, but there are a few new people involved in them so quite expected to be a bit different. Also the stats have a say, quite a big say even I'd say.

I would like to remind everyone that this is a rumors thread, not a "who the **** is forest and why do everyone hate him" -thread. Bring those juicy rumors and speculations back so I can then use my epic journalistic investigation skills to provide you more insight with them! Bring the fun back to the gossip thread.
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Haven't you heard we're the Black Flag? We don't mind a few incs, keeps you focused. ofc in Whimsyshire the incs may not be that welcome, but we really don't care that much. Keep on fighting the good battle you got there with ND and Ultprime, you're really getting somewhere with that.
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Bitcher tell me how you feel that Rainbows and newdawn are losing a 2 v 1 against Ultprime must feel shitty
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Also Bitcher why don't you accept the fact that we have won and stop being so immature
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Also Bitcher why don't you accept the fact that we have won and stop being so immature
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Bows is a newbie training alliance, and we belive in keeping our deals.
The reason your HC gave to us after Ult lol waved our planets with BF was that they had no controll over Norton and his team, and therefor was not responsible to their actions.
No one ever denied that Ultprime is a far greater alliance than Rainbows in terms of activity and experince, but that does not stop us from hitting you back.
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What are you on about?
Bows is a newbie training alliance, and we belive in keeping our deals.
The reason your HC gave to us after Ult lol waved our planets with BF was that they had no controll over Norton and his team, and therefor was not responsible to their actions.
No one ever denied that Ultprime is a far greater alliance than Rainbows in terms of activity and experince, but that does not stop us from hitting you back.
no one has claimed that we are anything this round. you're just losing the war is all he is saying
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no one has claimed that we are anything this round. you're just losing the war is all he is saying
Depends on whats defining winning and loosing
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Well it seems most alliances have dropped their nap with others.
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Bows a newbie training ally LOL

start a blog bitch3r pal im here for round 59 gossip not a rainbow retard blog
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Bows a newbie training ally LOL

start a blog bitch3r pal im here for round 59 gossip not a rainbow retard blog
What are we then?
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What are we then?
We are open to all, and encourage new players to apply.
from a quick scan of your member list most have played for quite a while

sure you can advertise yourself as such but to say it outright is a discredit to the people you have playing for you imo
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no one has claimed that we are anything this round. you're just losing the war is all he is saying

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from a quick scan of your member list most have played for quite a while

sure you can advertise yourself as such but to say it outright is a discredit to the people you have playing for you imo
Sure we are a lot of people who have been around for a while, but we also accepted a lot of new/returning players last round. We only stopped cus we reached the tag limit, and PA crew refuses to increase this.

If PA crew had increased the limit Ulthores wouldnt have to put their 80+ players into other tags as spies, as PA crew only allows them to have 60 in their main tag.
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Sure we are a lot of people who have been around for a while, but we also accepted a lot of new/returning players last round. We only stopped cus we reached the tag limit, and PA crew refuses to increase this.

If PA crew had increased the limit Ulthores wouldnt have to put their 80+ players into other tags as spies, as PA crew only allows them to have 60 in their main tag.
I don't see what any of that has to do with the fact you claimed yourself to be a training alliance, HR yes YOU no.
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I don't see what any of that has to do with the fact you claimed yourself to be a training alliance, HR yes YOU no.
We accept new players and train them as long as we got spots free.
We dont say we wont have our friends, and other experinced players along our ranks, no far from it.
We belive a mix new and old are the way to go about it training newbies
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We accept new players and train them as long as we got spots free.
We dont say we wont have our friends, and other experinced players along our ranks, no far from it.
We belive a mix new and old are the way to go about it training newbies
so you are no different to every other alliance? you seem to be rather condescending to your own alliance in saying such things im pretty sure if my HC came out with lol we aint good because noobs id be rather annoyed. Gl with that strategy pal.
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like vulgar said your no different from any other alliance most alliances have a few new players each round..so stop using that as an excuse
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We have players that can't even launch ships without being heavily micromanaged. We at ultprime believe in equality and have employed many people from different walks of life within our ranks.
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by heavily micromanaged i assume you mean 'have their accounts managed by others' ?
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I don't see what any of that has to do with the fact you claimed yourself to be a training alliance, HR yes YOU no.
Hes not talking about the members needing training ... its a trainer alliance for him.
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so you are no different to every other alliance? you seem to be rather condescending to your own alliance in saying such things im pretty sure if my HC came out with lol we aint good because noobs id be rather annoyed. Gl with that strategy pal.
i thought you were HC of ODDR?
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If you all could just see yourselves from an outsiders perspective.... Ya all are crazy, you realize that? Its like, half of you are brave crusaders and awesome players, and call the other half liars, cheaters, and political manipulators, then the next round, you all switch sides, rinse and repeat. Lolz!
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u ppl are mad , blocks happend , wars happend , friends join there friends , some like to troll u around with lol waves thinking they rock .no reason to praize yourself into some pa god !
On end it is politics win a rnd. Bows wanted to stand in no block and see the result we dropped like crazy due as stated RANDOM incs :P

About Bows , ive recruted most of the current members , manny old vgn came to play again . some others joined from other allies. Bows started indeed as training allie , and now has a few newlings , experianced players, veterans , and les actives who play as it fits there live.


no hard feelings to , its a game.... gl to all of u the rnd aint over yet :P

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So, ND/Rainbows vs RATprime
What else is going on? I think I noticed faceless hitting CT?
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