Phraktos

[LEFF|pm]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

Cretin.

I rate Vsn as probably the best alliance of this round with ND a close second, I shan't go through the reasons as they have been discussed elsewhere. But by your logic they can't be because they didn't win. Says whole bunch about the FAnG mentality tbh.

Definition of "best" by netlexicon: the person who is most outstanding or excellent; someone who tops all others; "he could beat the best of them"
So this is not even subjective and totally out of question as your personal preferences and indispositions are completly irrelevant

Vision earned some respect, I wont deny, but if they were the best alliance they would have won the round.

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

On another note you have really got to get that Fury chip off your shoulder. I don't, never have, never will strike similarities between Fury and anything this round. To do so would be pointless. More to the point answering every single post I make with some anti-fury arse is just making you look even more bitter than we all know you are.

I dont have to stand for insulting you, starting flame threads, commenting every thread about a certain alliance with brickbats unlike some other posters around.

Just check the boards and count the pure amount of flame-threads started by Fury members and compare them to the amount of Flame threads given in reply (!) Fury is disbanded; their views and opinions were surely of particular importance in former rounds, but right now all they do is grouching and whining while referring to their past glory.

Who is bittered?
All I do is reacting to your false accusations, and if you indeed come up with such accusations in every single post I will go into detail and blow all your misrepresentations in little bits if needed - in every single post you make.

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by LEFF|pm

Definition "best" by netlexicon: the person who is most outstanding or excellent; someone who tops all others; "he could beat the best of them"
So this is not even subjective and totally out of question as your personal preferences and indispositions are completly irrelevant

Vision earned some respect, I wont deny, but if they were the best alliance they would have won the round.



I dont have to stand for insulting you, starting flame threads, commenting every thread about a certain alliance with brickbats unlike some other posters around.

Just check the boards and count the pure amount of flame-threads started by Fury members and compare them to the amount of Flame threads given in reply (!)
Who is bittered?
All I do is reacting to your false accusations, and if you indeed come up such accusations in every single post I will go into detail and blow all your feigned misrepresentations in little blits if needed.

If could understand a single word of what you were saying then I'd probably respond with something relevent. You have to understand that just because you use long words it doesn't make you intelligent, although spelling them correctly helps

[Zotnam]

ownage move, too bad I wasn´t around at the time

[LEFF|pm]

Is my spelling that bad or cant you just think of an answer?

doesnt matter.... need to catch the bus

[Waku]

Originally Posted by Rember

wasn't it possible it was asked because the ones still in phraktos were known then?

;-)

Like you didnt know your gal m8 would still be Phraktos or not?

[Desse]

Originally Posted by Jonas

lo Desse btw

Lo jonas.

[Barrow|Pony]

Brickbats is the word of the day. Thanks LEFF.

[Synthetic_Sid]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

Actually I find this blatant rumour-mongoring to to be the most disgusting

Ok, so i'm rumour-mongering. Let's try some news-scans and see whether my rumours of farming (alongside protection) could possibly be more than just rumours.

News-scan of planet A (ex-Phraktos in a large MFP galaxy who hasn't received inbound):
http://jpaweb01.planetarion.com/show...n_id=603444024

News-scan of planet B (ex-Phraktos being roided for free by planet A):
http://jpaweb01.planetarion.com/show...n_id=194057709

News-scan of planet C (planet to which planet B ran some ships):
http://jpaweb01.planetarion.com/show...n_id=477962768

Now to explain a few things. Planets A and B are both Phraktos (or ex-Phraktos) - and both are largish xans. Planet A attacks planet B with a small elaphe/pod fleet - the sort of fleet that any xan with more than 1 million fleet value could kill without breaking a sweat. At eta 0 planet B (the target) runs all of his ships which could possibly harm the attacker on defend to a planet with no inbound at the time. Could there be a more blatant case of farming? And which of MF is it that's going to let their loyal members be overtaken by some farming member of another alliance who defects?

You'll notice that planet B's remaining ships were at base - so it's not just a case of he launched the wrong fleet. And even if he had launched the wrong fleet, his attacker had no way of knowing that he'd launched anything - so what possible reason would compel him to land a fleet that would die for sure vs his target?

[mazzelaar]

Whats that I hear - "there isn't enough evidence"

Well cover me in eggs and flour and bake me for forty minutes, what a suprise

[fuz]

busted

[Jackal2112]

Originally Posted by Rumad

I am sorry for al those members - FAnG knows what its like fr there HC t throw a spastic and then the round go's under.

In round 10 FAnG was slowly losing ground to EET, they were losing slowly but inevitably and the command simply couldnt handle the pressure in the end. Phraktos however has been sitting on a throne all round fighting on the winning side of the blockwar and crumble in like what? a day? without putting up an inch of resistance at all. You can't compare those imo.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

In round 10 FAnG was slowly losing ground to EET, they were losing slowly but inevitably and the command simply couldnt handle the pressure in the end.

Don't wanna discuss this too much but FAnG didn't crumble under EET pressure. It is by far THE reason why we ended like that. Sure EET had a contribution to it, I won't deny that but if you were a member (meaning active and doin other stuff then spying) then you'd have realized that EET was only one of the many concerns, hardly THE most important one.
We were not afraid to fight EET, we had fun doin so and I believe EET can say the same about us.

Nway, this is just me clarifying some things about last round, believe it or not, that's upto you.

[waffle]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Don't wanna discuss this too much but FAnG didn't crumble under EET pressure. It is by far THE reason why we ended like that. Sure EET had a contribution to it, I won't deny that but if you were a member (meaning active and doin other stuff then spying) then you'd have realized that EET was only one of the many concerns, hardly THE most important one.
We were not afraid to fight EET, we had fun doin so and I believe EET can say the same about us.

Nway, this is just me clarifying some things about last round, believe it or not, that's upto you.

Yes, we were gaining ground on FAnG, but I"m sure that's not the reason that's why they folded. I do believe that in the end that Eclipse would have passed fang(thanks to the great attacks set up by Forest).

It was a blast battling fang during r10. My galaxy had a good mix, half on the EET side, and half on the Fang/Dragon side. Was fun. . I sure do miss those days. .

[rshih]

Yer.... I miss my in gal scan bitch

And it was only Ecl and Dragons =p Ely members left I think.

[AzureWrath]

i miss fighting fang, they truly were my enemy

[rshih]

Maybe you should play again then, lam0r oO

[AzureWrath]

maybe..FAnG cant handle me tho

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

In round 10 FAnG was slowly losing ground to EET, they were losing slowly but inevitably and the command simply couldnt handle the pressure in the end. Phraktos however has been sitting on a throne all round fighting on the winning side of the blockwar and crumble in like what? a day? without putting up an inch of resistance at all. You can't compare those imo.

whp said i was alking about round 10 - pick most rounds between 8-10 and you have a winner :P

[mazzelaar]

Originally Posted by Rumad

whp said i was alking about round 10 - pick most rounds between 8-10 and you have a winner :P

I think he might have been referring to the posts between me and Leff

[Shaithess]

Originally Posted by LEFF|pm

Definition of "best" by netlexicon: the person who is most outstanding or excellent; someone who tops all others; "he could beat the best of them"
So this is not even subjective and totally out of question as your personal preferences and indispositions are completly irrelevant

Vision earned some respect, I wont deny, but if they were the best alliance they would have won the round.

OK, how about a rough metaphor...

A battlecruiser with 50 heavy guns goes up against 5 normal cruisers, each with 30 heavy guns. The speed and resilience of each of the ships is identical, and assuming they're forced into a straight exchange of fire... The battlecruiser has 50 guns compared to the 150 on the other cruisers, in effect, the other cruisers have an advantage to the scale of _9_ (Not 3, I can explain the maths if anyone doesn't know why already). And they will almost definitely win this fight.

However, which is the best ship? The one with 50 guns, or the one with 30 guns? They're perfectly equal in every other regard...

Note: I am not saying that this is directly applicable, but it is something to consider...

[ND]Gate

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by mazzelaar

I think he might have been referring to the posts between me and Leff

maybe or maybe he assumed I was referencing one of the 2 rounds i wasn't hc of

[alch]

A battlecruiser with 50 heavy guns goes up against 5 normal cruisers, each with 30 heavy guns. The speed and resilience of each of the ships is identical, and assuming they're forced into a straight exchange of fire... The battlecruiser has 50 guns compared to the 150 on the other cruisers, in effect, the other cruisers have an advantage to the scale of _9_ (Not 3, I can explain the maths if anyone doesn't know why already). And they will almost definitely win this fight.

However, which is the best ship? The one with 50 guns, or the one with 30 guns? They're perfectly equal in every other regard...

Note: I am not saying that this is directly applicable, but it is something to consider...

This is true if you consider #1 alliance (the battlecruiser) being gangbanged by the #2/3/4/5/6 alliances ( the 5 Cruiser hitting him in same time).

But in term of force and firepower, i dont think #4 is the same as #1

[Rumad]

Originally Posted by alch

This is true if you consider #1 alliance (the battlecruiser) being gangbanged by the #2/3/4/5/6 alliances ( the 5 Cruiser hitting him in same time).

But in term of force and firepower, i dont think #4 is the same as #1

There are variables to this which need to be factored in:

Not all score equatesto ships, alliances become less active as the round progresses so the masses are harder to motivate to launch and ofcourse the logistical planning that is needed for what is suggested.

Then you have variables like will the top alliance over defend or will the smaller alliances oversend and ruin the cap. Also Galaxy and friend defence.

Its much more difficult than the analogy and the factor is much lower with all the variables included