Planetarion Forums - Donnie Darko Bakes my Noodle [Discussion][Spoilers]

Kurashima · 13 Dec 2003, 08:20

Ok ,ok. Now im going to leave this one for some answers while i sleep, which is unlikely because im trying to justify the movie in my head.

1. The world ends in 28 days yadda yadda yadda. When Donnie dies, does this mean the world isnt going to end? Because if Donnie is dead, then he cant burn down the Paedo's house, so his mother is never going to need to take the dance troup to the show, and thus is not going to be on the plane. Hence, the engine wont drop through the roof and kill him.

2. Gretchen is a total irrelevance. Realistically, so is Frank, since by killing him, he becomes the spectre, but since Donnie is dead, Frank wont die 28 days from now due to Donnie shooting him. Is this why Donnie doesnt get out of bed that evening, because Frank hasnt died and told him to come meet him?

3. Why is the world going to end. I mean, theres absoloutely no ****ing explanation as to why its going to end, simply that it is. Is its a side effect from a ****ing huge set of time ripples wandering through reality that eventually tears it apart, or were they just too ****ing lazy to explain it properly (ill get the DVD, which probably explains a shitload more).

4. Was the whole film , the whole 28 days, just a product of Donnie's psychotic, paranoid delusional mind, bearing in mind the fact that your whole life "Flashes before your eyes the second before you die" and perhaps in his psychotic state, thats what Darko actually sees as "Living" and he hasnt been "Living" up until then.

5. When will i find a film in which Drew Barrymore get her nipples out for the camera? Shes a damned fine actress and one of my "Top 10 celebrity gangbang" candidates. MORE NAKED DREW BARRYMORE EFFESS!

Regards
A dishevelled and mentally worn out Kura

LHC · 13 Dec 2003, 11:09

4. I liked MrL's explanation: "It's like It's A Wonderful Life or whatever it's called. In that film, an angel shows the protagonist what things would be like if he had died, and because they're 'worse', he chooses to live.

In Donnie Darko, Donnie sees what things would be like if he had lived."

even though its wrong.

Dante Hicks · 13 Dec 2003, 12:51

Can't we have a permanently stickied thread relating to all Donnie Darko material?

MrL_JaKiri · 13 Dec 2003, 13:15

1. See 4. It's not the earth being destroyed (as it were), but that 'line of causality'.

2. God knows.

3. 'The world' does end, in the sense that that reality no longer exists. I think that's what it means.

4. The writer meant it to be that when everything goes wrong a cosmic wormhole opens up and makes things different!!!!!!

This is what you get when people read Hawking, and misunderstand the already bad physics in the book.

5. Just watch Charlies Angel's 2. It has a market, and it gets it bang on.

Belgarath The Sorcerer · 13 Dec 2003, 13:21

I agree with MrL.

It's still a great film though.

"Sometimes I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion."
"I think you are the ****ing Anti-Christ."

Cmdr_Cyrax · 13 Dec 2003, 14:11

No,
It's so deeply flawed, I hated it.

I've thought long and hard about this, and I think where they went wrong is trying to find a way of putting the lives of the entire world in the hands of a '''''typical'''''' American teenager.
The film basicly goes on to say another timeline would be created by sending a plane engine 'back in time'. The idea that Donnie could prevent this by dying is stupid. Regardless of whether he lives or dies that plane is gonna fly. A more accurate film would have him trying to blow up the aircraft before it took off, that at least would be plausable.

Dante Hicks · 13 Dec 2003, 14:14

A more accurate film about time-travel and involving giant rabbits, yeah?

MrL_JaKiri · 13 Dec 2003, 14:17

The time travel could be more accurate, and the giant rabbit isn't a giant rabbit.

Cmdr_Cyrax · 13 Dec 2003, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks

A more accurate film about time-travel and involving giant rabbits, yeah?

Yeah,
On a similar note, did anyone else get pissed off by Doc Brown's claim in 'Back to the future' that meeting yourself would destroy the universe?
These things need explaining.

MrL_JaKiri · 13 Dec 2003, 14:35

It's like, to quote The Witches of Chiswick, David Warner in Time Cop. (Or whatever film it is)

Tomkat · 13 Dec 2003, 15:53

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

David Warner in Time Cop.

Wasn't that Jean Claude Van Damme?

NEWSBOT3 · 13 Dec 2003, 16:16

donnie darko is a good film with a terrible plot.

deerbarn · 13 Dec 2003, 17:17

Its A ****ing Film

deerbarn · 13 Dec 2003, 17:17

Whoah. you can like no longer type in all caps

Marilyn Manson · 13 Dec 2003, 17:23

(You do realise that nobody out there in the real world gives one tiny shit about your application of the values of reason and analysis to it, and that it generally works purely on an emotional level, right?)

deerbarn · 13 Dec 2003, 17:24

what i said but longer

Dace · 13 Dec 2003, 17:28

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Originally Posted by deerbarn

Whoah. you can like no longer type in all caps

I found that out ALONG time ago.

deerbarn · 13 Dec 2003, 17:34

its quite upsetting the first time :(

Belgarath The Sorcerer · 13 Dec 2003, 17:36

It's a mad world.

Dace · 13 Dec 2003, 17:38

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Originally Posted by deerbarn

its quite upsetting the first time :(

In time the pain fades.

MrL_JaKiri · 13 Dec 2003, 17:41

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Originally Posted by deerbarn

Whoah. you can like no longer type in all caps

I CAN.

I'm Not Grimble · 13 Dec 2003, 17:45

DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL SPECIAL MRL???

Dace · 13 Dec 2003, 17:45

That's it Mark.

Draw attention to the way to get round it.

Get Karm to **** with the forums some more and take away my prefered method of posting by taking away the loophole to the rule.

****!

MrL_JaKiri · 13 Dec 2003, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Dace

That's it Mark.

Draw attention to the way to get round it.

By 'posting'?

deerbarn · 13 Dec 2003, 17:52

mods might be able to anyway. They are all gay you know. Should see the mod forums

Dace · 13 Dec 2003, 17:56

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

By 'posting'?

No, by saying "this is how you get round it" in a thread which a mod might more closely scrutinise how you did it (ie attention had already been drawn to the point by Nick).

Kurashima · 13 Dec 2003, 18:26

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Originally Posted by deerbarn

mods might be able to anyway. They are all gay you know. Should see the mod forums

Have you sorted out this socialising/piss-up thing for the end of January yet?

vampire_lestat · 13 Dec 2003, 21:37

donnie darko was ace.

Cmdr_Cyrax · 14 Dec 2003, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

(You do realise that nobody out there in the real world gives one tiny shit about your application of the values of reason and analysis to it, and that it generally works purely on an emotional level, right?)

Was that directed at me?

If so, I was just saying I'd liek a film to make sense, or time travel will just become an excuse for writing a load of crap.

Person A: **** that film was utter bollocks.
Person B: That's ok, its a time travel film. Its meant to be.

Marilyn Manson · 14 Dec 2003, 01:37

It was directed at those people at large who were adjusting their assorted measuring devices and pointing them at the film.

Weeks · 14 Dec 2003, 02:35

Why bother analysing this film?
I quite liked being confused.

Cmdr_Cyrax · 14 Dec 2003, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Weeks

Why bother analysing this film?
I quite liked being confused.

Its not confusing, its just wrong.

*Hands a card with 'PTO' on both sides to Weeks.*
Enjoy.

Scoot951 · 14 Dec 2003, 21:41

I get the feeling people only say they liked this movie so they can look 'unique'. I thought it was crap.

Baron Morte · 14 Dec 2003, 21:43

why is it that everyone that watches DD are struck with a urgent need to come here and post about it?
The movie does not make sense. Live with it

LHC · 14 Dec 2003, 21:43

It's not very unique to enjoy the movie. I'd say more people like it than dislike it, out of those that have seen it.

MrL_JaKiri · 14 Dec 2003, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

It was directed at those people at large who were adjusting their assorted measuring devices and pointing them at the film.

I want to be able to focus on the screen

Marilyn Manson · 14 Dec 2003, 22:15

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

I want to be able to focus on the screen

That's what Mendel said.

MrL_JaKiri · 15 Dec 2003, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson

That's what Mendel said.

Gregor Mendel stars in Casino Royale?

MrL_JaKiri · 15 Dec 2003, 00:25

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Originally Posted by idimmu

what part of the film gave you the impression that in 28 days the world was going to end?

The voice over that implies something like that.

Demon Dave · 15 Dec 2003, 00:41

"Twenty Eight Days, Six Hours, Forty Two Minutes, Twelve Seconds... ...That is when the world will end"

I think that explains it

Illogical · 15 Dec 2003, 01:07

[quote=Kurashima]Ok ,ok. Now im going to leave this one for some answers while i sleep, which is unlikely because im trying to justify the movie in my head.

1. The world ends in 28 days yadda yadda yadda. When Donnie dies, does this mean the world isnt going to end? Because if Donnie is dead, then he cant burn down the Paedo's house, so his mother is never going to need to take the dance troup to the show, and thus is not going to be on the plane. Hence, the engine wont drop through the roof and kill him.

>Its so Donnie can have loved, if you look at the little clips throughout, you will see he is the boy >that has never loved, hecne the whole gretchin thing, living and fulfilling his life.

2. Gretchen is a total irrelevance. Realistically, so is Frank, since by killing him, he becomes the spectre, but since Donnie is dead, Frank wont die 28 days from now due to Donnie shooting him. Is this why Donnie doesnt get out of bed that evening, because Frank hasnt died and told him to come meet him?

>Gretchen is part of the "he needs to feel love" before he dies.

3. Why is the world going to end. I mean, theres absoloutely no ****ing explanation as to why its going to end, simply that it is. Is its a side effect from a ****ing huge set of time ripples wandering through reality that eventually tears it apart, or were they just too ****ing lazy to explain it properly (ill get the DVD, which probably explains a shitload more).

>ITs a sci-fi film that involves time travel : ) its meant to make you think! (the dvd extras and >commentry help lots)

4. Was the whole film , the whole 28 days, just a product of Donnie's psychotic, paranoid delusional mind, bearing in mind the fact that your whole life "Flashes before your eyes the second before you die" and perhaps in his psychotic state, thats what Darko actually sees as "Living" and he hasnt been "Living" up until then.

>Well the pills were fakes, they were just water tablets as explained in the dvd extras, and he >wasnt insane.

5. When will i find a film in which Drew Barrymore get her nipples out for the camera? Shes a damned fine actress and one of my "Top 10 celebrity gangbang" candidates. MORE NAKED DREW BARRYMORE EFFESS!

>Shes over rated.. Maggie Gylenhaal > *

Illogical · 15 Dec 2003, 01:09

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Originally Posted by Baron Morte

why is it that everyone that watches DD are struck with a urgent need to come here and post about it?
The movie does not make sense. Live with it

try actually thinking, and for it to make secne you usually have to watch it more than once.

and yup ive seen it near enough 100 times as its probably the best film ive ever seen apart from LOTR

Illogical · 15 Dec 2003, 01:13

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Originally Posted by NEWSBOT3

donnie darko is a good film with a terrible plot.

And seeing it was Kellys first ever film i think he did a fking good job

he also kick started jake gylenhaal and maggie gylenhaals careers which is mucho kudos to him as Maggie was uber hot in Secretary

Marilyn Manson · 15 Dec 2003, 01:19

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Gregor Mendel stars in Casino Royale?

He sure does.

MrL_JaKiri · 15 Dec 2003, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Illogical

try actually thinking, and for it to make secne you usually have to watch it more than once.

The time travel idea is unknowably dire. Again, like The Matrix, it's not a case of 'understand it dude', it's just bad.

(I'm talking about what it was desired that the film meant, until you find that out its a good film... perhaps it's the one film that you DON'T want to understand it.)

Work_Child · 15 Dec 2003, 11:18

I've never seen this film so wont post anything constructive.

Baron Morte · 17 Dec 2003, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Illogical

try actually thinking, and for it to make secne you usually have to watch it more than once.

and yup ive seen it near enough 100 times as its probably the best film ive ever seen apart from LOTR

How come that a dead person travels trhu time.
Not only is this person dead, but it travels in time.

Ive read some things about the movie and it said " the time was becaming corrupt, thats why the would would end"

becoming corrupt???

FFS!
Tell me, then, how does, exactly, a dead person does anything?

Dace · 17 Dec 2003, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Baron Morte

Tell me, then, how does, exactly, a dead person does anything?

They decompose :lolerz:

acropolis · 17 Dec 2003, 19:19

The Jakiri Position has been empirically proven to be correct wrt 'Donnie Darko'

Now can someone explain to me wtf happened in 'Mulholland Drive'?

MrL_JaKiri · 17 Dec 2003, 19:26

I'll tell you after I watch it again tomorrow.