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Unread 16 Jun 2016, 10:59   #101
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Re: r67 who will win

Funny that it's always the same people bending / breaking the rules, the same people accusing them of cheating and also the same people defending them.

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Haha this just keeps getting more and more amusing, but what should be clear is the intent behind the whole defend with 1 shippie to get 300xp and then repeat from planets that continually initiate roids to get incoming is CLEARLY an orchestrated act and is more than intentional in its nature. No newb or veteran player would intentionally play in the manner these so called "planets" are playing. However, they do provide more roids to the univers lol?

Ps. its not like its that hard to def some of the fleets that are incoming and would easily be covered, so that might also be a point sending 1 ship to something you otherwise would easily be able to cover shows that its an exploit, and the defence is no where near something that would be considered "defence", it couldn´t even be considered "fake defence".
Also some of the incoming he has is fairly regular, and suspicious in nature.

Personally i hope the so called "loophole" will be dealt with, preferably before round end, but if not that, after it. No matter which of them happens, ill just refer them to #2 in the univers as the winner.

Kudos to the current #1 planet for exploiting the system yeay. Now please remove the exploitable scenario.
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Obviously you're from Norse.
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Obviously you're from Norse.
Hahahaha... yes i am in norse... you´re point being?
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Hahahaha... yes i am in norse... you´re point being?
Your alliance affiliation is clearly the sole base for your opinion.. seeing how it only contradicts some of the previous posted opinions from said alliance
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If it is ok to send one ship to defend once, it should be ok to do the same N times. Without a doubt XP formula for def will be reviewed in the future as it happened in all other situations when someone found some strategy that unbalanced the game.

Could we move to another subject?
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Re: r67 who will win

Yes, we can:

I would like to ask all alliance HCs to cut back on the number of wars being waged. I can't handle all this excitement.
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If it is ok to send one ship to defend once, it should be ok to do the same N times. Without a doubt XP formula for def will be reviewed in the future as it happened in all other situations when someone found some strategy that unbalanced the game.

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Who is saying its not okey?
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Sounds like you didnt read any of the posts in here
I didnt. But it astonished me you have been discussing for something that is ok.
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Haha this just keeps getting more and more amusing, but what should be clear is the intent behind the whole defend with 1 shippie to get 300xp and then repeat from planets that continually initiate roids to get incoming is CLEARLY an orchestrated act and is more than intentional in its nature. No newb or veteran player would intentionally play in the manner these so called "planets" are playing. However, they do provide more roids to the univers lol?

Ps. its not like its that hard to def some of the fleets that are incoming and would easily be covered, so that might also be a point sending 1 ship to something you otherwise would easily be able to cover shows that its an exploit, and the defence is no where near something that would be considered "defence", it couldn´t even be considered "fake defence".
Also some of the incoming he has is fairly regular, and suspicious in nature.

Personally i hope the so called "loophole" will be dealt with, preferably before round end, but if not that, after it. No matter which of them happens, ill just refer them to #2 in the univers as the winner.

Kudos to the current #1 planet for exploiting the system yeay. Now please remove the exploitable scenario.

By that same logic we should refer to Faceless as the r65 winners.
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Who is saying its not okey?
Sounds like you didnt read any of the posts in here
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By that same logic we should refer to Faceless as the r65 winners.
By the same logic i presented, if you don´t believe norse to be the winner of that round, then if someone asks you who the winner was, say faceless?
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By the same logic i presented, if you don´t believe norse to be the winner of that round, then if someone asks you who the winner was, say faceless?
I'm saying you exploited the system to win how is that different than benneh? Winning is winning.
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I think Germany will win. If not germany, maybe Poland.
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By that same logic we should refer to Faceless as the r65 winners.
Yea thats why im not saying anything agaisnt it. We abuse dthe system no doubt. I also ponted out the scanning stuff thats an abuse and the def xp which is also an exploit/abuse whatever. It was just a question of time that someone bothered reading the formulas and won this way.

What i find stupid is that u have to abuse/exploit the system to make changes. I dont think benneh should be closed. Personally i think its not illegea, but its an exploit.

But those ppl thinking its a valid tactic for the future got to actually look at the formulas. It cant be beaten.it will be a question of who defs the most. It cant be beaten by value. Its a clever way of abusin the game mechanics and sadly thats the only way to make changes in pa
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Re: r67 who will win

To be honest, I'm still not sure it's a 100% sure win. That's what we thought last round, when the entire top 100 was filled with XP planets, and the value planets were all lagging half a lap behind. But you don't look in the mirror for a couple of ticks, and bam, suddenly there's someone like ArmA, gearing up to run them all over in his monster truck.

I'm certain this is a top 10 planet strategy, the math indeed bears that out. He'll probably finish top 3, with a good shot at #1. But the round is not over yet.
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To be honest, I'm still not sure it's a 100% sure win. That's what we thought last round, when the entire top 100 was filled with XP planets, and the value planets were all lagging half a lap behind. But you don't look in the mirror for a couple of ticks, and bam, suddenly there's someone like ArmA, gearing up to run them all over in his monster truck.

I'm certain this is a top 10 planet strategy, the math indeed bears that out. He'll probably finish top 3, with a good shot at #1. But the round is not over yet.
I do love your optimism, lets take it as a challange
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To be honest, I'm still not sure it's a 100% sure win. That's what we thought last round, when the entire top 100 was filled with XP planets, and the value planets were all lagging half a lap behind. But you don't look in the mirror for a couple of ticks, and bam, suddenly there's someone like ArmA, gearing up to run them all over in his monster truck.

I'm certain this is a top 10 planet strategy, the math indeed bears that out. He'll probably finish top 3, with a good shot at #1. But the round is not over yet.

Nah if he keeps it up it a sure win. He'll make 15 mill easy. Can't be beaten by value. Trust me thats a low estimate. I've calced it a few rounds ago. A semi active scanner could get 15 mill planet then
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Nah if he keeps it up it a sure win. He'll make 15 mill easy. Can't be beaten by value. Trust me thats a low estimate. I've calced it a few rounds ago. A semi active scanner could get 15 mill planet then
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Same vocal minority crying into their cornflakes because someone found a different way to play

Ps if you want to beat them I know how, the bidding starts at €50
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Same vocal minority crying into their cornflakes because someone found a different way to play

Ps if you want to beat them I know how, the bidding starts at €50
It's not a diffent way of play. When you have a way that will beat a regular way of playing every time it's an error. I've done the calculations try it and if u think it's somethiing that should be kept then please tell me how you can compete. PA would be a game of launching the most def fleets. Anyone with half a brain and know more then 2+2 in math can figure out that it's something that need to be changed. Just ask around i've mentioned this before, and also abused it. (scanning also needs changing btw!)

And yes i know how to stop benneh from winning and stop the tactic, but i got no ambitions whatsoever of doing it. I've also stated i dont think it's an closable offense.

One planet have to win this way for it to be changed. I couldn't care less who it is.

So those who think it's a valid tactic i challange you to come up with a way of regular play that can beat the tactic in terms of regular play.

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Same vocal minority crying into their cornflakes because someone found a different way to play

Ps if you want to beat them I know how, the bidding starts at €50
Taking advantage of other people cheating is not a new way of playing.
It would never be this possibole if his gal hadnt been roid farms.
If he joins a tag later on, it will become more obvious as he has been XP riding his allie mates incomming fleets.

But sure, if you all want to think this is okey, im sure we can find more ways to cheat and farm
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This is all pretty funny.
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This is all pretty funny.
NO IT IS NOT!

How am I sposed to win when Benneh is?
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Another inciddent is the Dav(the cheater) where he initiated a few thousand roids and had his gal exile him into c200 where he couldnt be attacked and could stay untill he logged in again.

Not against the rules i suppose, but still abuse.
Firstly, your spelling and grammar is terrible. Please deal with this issue as a matter of urgency so that your WHINE is that tiny bit more bearable pal.

Secondly, you're just jealous babes. Just because people find great and abstract way of playing and try them within the mechanics (and rules) of the current game. Unfortunately, sometimes MHs seem to 'cave to the community pressure' rather than thinking what a smart guy, fair play... we'll fix this next time round.

Thirdly, I haven't missed you and maybe I'll make my comeback and find another way to make you whine just that little bit more you cute little hater

And finally, well done Benneh... you're my hero for trying out this strategy!

There's my 2 pence (for what its worth).
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Unfortunately, sometimes MHs seem to 'cave to the community pressure' rather than thinking what a smart guy, fair play... we'll fix this next time round.
Yeah, please tell us the story about when you and your gal found a resource bug and managed to give yourself free resources? And you all "forgot to report it"
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Funny that it's always the same people bending / breaking the rules, the same people accusing them of cheating and also the same people defending them.

PA is stuck in a rut.
PA is stuck in a rut because according to the vocal minority there is only one way to play the game and if anyone trys to find a different way to play they come here crying that they must be cheating or they are not playing the game the way it should be played.
There should be more than one way to play otherwise it's an incredibly boring game of launch scan calc and land or recall
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PA is stuck in a rut because it's over 15 years old.

And something that has been deemed cheating by the MH for years isn't suddenly not cheating because a galmate is benefiting from it. I've no problem with Benneh's planet itself.
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Re: r67 who will win

Seriously, dont know what is going on. you see days where every alliance bar one in KIA having large roid gains, is everyone except CT just napped the uni and initing?? seems like it! what happened to this being a space based WAR game!
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Seriously, dont know what is going on. you see days where every alliance bar one in KIA having large roid gains, is everyone except CT just napped the uni and initing?? seems like it! what happened to this being a space based WAR game!
i have reason to believe it is time for me to war the mining page!
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every alliance bar one in KIA having large roid gains, is everyone except CT just napped the uni and initing??
It is pretty clear that the whole universe is dependent on farming benneh's gal
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Re: r67 who will win

I think this is going nowhere, Benneh's won, and fairly and cleverly.
Nothing we can do about it,
Except maybe some constructive talk about changing defence XP? 1 ship def is a bit silly, and exploiting the def xp which was introduced to encourage defending.
Those with stat brains have a look. I don't know if it's a too big a deal really. Just a bit of a lame way to accumulate score in a war game is all, especially when it's more beneficial to just defend with 1 ship than actually attack or try and cover a wave. Can you imagine an alliance of people doing this ? ...
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How am I sposed to win when Benneh is?

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I think this is going nowhere, Benneh's won, and fairly and cleverly.
Nothing we can do about it,
Except maybe some constructive talk about changing defence XP? 1 ship def is a bit silly, and exploiting the def xp which was introduced to encourage defending.
Those with stat brains have a look. I don't know if it's a too big a deal really. Just a bit of a lame way to accumulate score in a war game is all, especially when it's more beneficial to just defend with 1 ship than actually attack or try and cover a wave. Can you imagine an alliance of people doing this ? ...
Everyone could stop attacking 3.4
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Everyone could stop attacking 3.4
Norse are the main whiners about bennett's strategy and yet they continue to farm 3:4 everyday. The irony is just fantastic.
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The whole point here is to point out how benneh try hard every round and cant win it, so he finds a pitiable to do it.

I feel sorry for the guy, I really do
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Soooooooo um

Who's gonna win the rnd
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The whole point here is to point out how benneh try hard every round and cant win it, so he finds a pitiable to do it.

I feel sorry for the guy, I really do
Can't win? He's a tripple round winner pal! As a roundwinner myself I demand you to show bennett some respect!!
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Yeah, please tell us the story about when you and your gal found a resource bug and managed to give yourself free resources? And you all "forgot to report it"
Damn those MHs
Just because it's a long time ago doesn't mean you can change the story to make it look like you're right pal
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Just because it's a long time ago doesn't mean you can change the story to make it look like you're right pal
So this never happend? Im sure i could browse the forum, and find dav saying exactly this.
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All i see is benneh failling every round, this one isnt different.
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Can't win? He's a tripple round winner pal! As a roundwinner myself I demand you to show bennett some respect!!
that was before him starting to desrespect us... after that, all he does is try try try and never win..

this one will not be different =)
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that was before him starting to desrespect us... after that, all he does is try try try and never win..

this one will not be different =)
Because you all trollwave him every round he plays value? It's no wonder he plays different strategies as it's not fun when the entire Brazilian fag group gangs up on one planet.

At least benneh can win. When was the last Brazilian who won 3 rounds?

And when did benneh disrespect you?

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Looking at the history page, Benneh rarely gets much incs
It would appear you have not actually looked at the history page.
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It would appear you have not actually looked at the history page.
Maybe not closely.
He has never had most incs during a whole round, and apart from last round he barely have any rounds with to digits.
Im sure i found one where he was top50 with 10 incs or something.

So i think its safe to say that he does not get any more incs than the average joe.
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Maybe not closely.
Try not at all.

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He has never had most incs during a whole round
Rounds 21, 33, 48 and 52.

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and apart from last round he barely have any rounds with to digits.
He hasn't had single-digit incoming numbers in the last 10 rounds. I didn't look farther back.

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Im sure i found one where he was top50 with 10 incs or something.
I'm sure you'll share the round number with us?

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So i think its safe to say that he does not get any more incs than the average joe.
I think it's safe to say you'll continue digging.
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Try not at all.


Rounds 21, 33, 48 and 52.


He hasn't had single-digit incoming numbers in the last 10 rounds. I didn't look farther back.


I'm sure you'll share the round number with us?


I think it's safe to say you'll continue digging.
I didnt find any benneh R52, or 48. The brazillians came in numbers to PA R49 btw, so i suppose only rounds after this is relevant?

I meant three digits. or that he usualy had two digits incs.

and hte round with 13 incs was r56, if its the same guy we are talking about?
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I didnt find any benneh R52, or 48.
Benneh hasn't use the nick Benneh for most of his career.

I think that's all that needs to be said, really.
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Looking at the history page, Benneh rarely gets much incs, by the looks of it he must have a lot of pnaps.
Every round benneh plays value (VALUE being the keyword here), he has the most incs more or less as an individual.

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And we all know there is only one Brazillian, Joseph, who controls all the planets/nicks.
So basicly Joseph/RaUlZiTo/XoCa/insert bot nick is the most winning player in PA history
You are purposely being stupid here, so I won't even argue a response.
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