Round nine, and the alliances..

[Zitos]

Soooo..
I have heard theres people comming back to planetarion, for round nine.. That ofcourse is very: \o/
But, some of us 'returners' might consider re-putting ourselfs in to the political situations.. I have so far only read pices of threads, so i can safly say i dont know whats happening.. I though have a vauge view of how its all.. So let me try..

The blocks..
[VoM]
ViruS, Vision, Olympians, Ministry and MadCowS
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Virus is the virus we know from round five, six, seven and eight.. Vision is vision from last round.. But I dont know who the Olympians are, i may guess they are some 'left overs' from Titans and LDK, and maybe some from other places too, thank you Colt for correction.. Ministry is the only (?) ving thats left from Xanadu, with Tesla at the helm? And theres no need to explain what MadCowS is, I am sure we all know..

[SWEET]
Sapientia, The Wolfpack, Elysium, Eclipse and ToT
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Sapientia is some thing new, I got a feeling its people from Silver and then Xylem, but then again - I dont know.. The Wolfpack is preety much the same as they where from round six, strong with a good hc.. I dont know how Elysium is thees days, but they might be doing good too, I would apreciate some info on them.. Eclipse is what i call a Fury2, I read that Focht would be among the hc (or excs,) so it got to rock.. ToT and their Juniorwing (if it still exist) are probably doing good too..

[NrA]
NoS, Reduco, Auld, etc?
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As you probably understand, this is where i realy get problems with keeping track on the allies.. I like to think of [NrA] as the round nine version of [FoS] - Just a bit 'fitter' .. But if you got some thing to add here, i would be pleased..

[ZN]
Zenith
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Could be a good alliance, fresh - but the round will tell us later.. It seems like it could be some thing good though..

Whom with who..
The 'impression' I have got so far, is that its [VoM] vs. [SWEET] - This is kinda like [Xanaduion] vs. [Furgion] - just with some mixes though.. And then we got [NrA] siding with booth the sides, in true [FoS] style.. Will you ever learn?

So what it looks like for me is..

ViruS, Vision, Olympians, Ministry, MadCowS vs. Sapientia, The Wolfpack, Elysium, Eclipse and ToT (and NoS, NewDawn..)

I hope for the sake of the game that Zenith will draw a conclusion out from their 'carefully thinking' that the [VoM] side is the one to join.. Or I am afraid the round might end way to fast..

Covardice?
Thats realy what its all about.. When you got to little faith in your alliance, you team up with another alliance.. So how much faith does your alliance have in you?

We will see..

P/S - I realy dont know i ****t, just guessing - so I would like you to correct me here.. So I know whats going to happend during round nine..

[Colt]

olympians is a mixture of Titans/ldk and some others afaik from prev rd.

the 'R' in NrA is *supposedly* RaH, but nothin has been confirmed afaik.

As u can see i dont know all details, but i think that is wot u missed out, some1 feel free to correct me

[Zitos]

Thank you a lot Colt.. By the way, where have VD taken their way? I will update my post with your info.. Thanks a lot again..

[Colt]

Originally posted by Zitos
Thank you a lot Colt.. By the way, where have VD taken their way? I will update my post with your info.. Thanks a lot again..

Np, always glad to help

VD have renamed VGN but dont have any relations with any1, tho again, im not 100% sure on that

[Cochese]

Originally posted by Zitos


Whom with who..
And then we got [NrA] siding with booth the sides, in true [FoS] style.. Will you ever learn?

Since when is "NrA" siding with my side? I certainly haven't had any meetings or discussions with their alliances, signed any deals, or made our galaxies to include them. They are supposedly neutral, and as such, I doubt either side would stand for what would essentially be a "fence sitting" posture.

I hope for the sake of the game that Zenith will draw a conclusion out from their 'carefully thinking' that the [VoM] side is the one to join.. Or I am afraid the round might end way to fast..

I think you're putting too little faith in our side, and too much in Zenith's capabilities. As far as I can tell, nobody wants anything to do with Aneu How much effect Zenith will have on the outcome of the round remains to be seen, but I doubt the round will be lost or won by their involvement.

[JC]

Originally posted by Zitos
[NrA]
NoS, Reduco, NewDawn, Auld, hirr, etc?

ND is a part of AULD, they are not 2 separate alliances. As far as i know AULD comprises of ND and Ety, maybe another alliance that i am unaware of as well.

[SYMM]

Vision was NOT allied to FAnG...ever.

[Zitos]

Hello mr Cochese.. As i clearly stated in my post, i dont know any thing.. Im just 'wondering' about whats going on.. I read in an other thread that [NrA] was 'siding' with [SWEET], because they had more members in [SWEET] galaxys, than in [VoM] galaxys.. Therefor i take it that [VoM] also got some [NrA] members inside.. And i draw a pararel to round six and [FoS] - it just seamd a bit logical for me there and then..

So therefor dont take my words for 'it' .. And you might be right about me putting to little faith in your side, after some chats on ng - it suddenly feels a bit more impressive (-:

JC, thank you for putting that out for me.. If i remember correct, Auld was NewDawn and hirr.. Part of CAT during round seven?



All in all guys, thank you for the info.. I realy apreciate it..

[Zitos]

Originally posted by SYMM
Vision was NOT allied to FAnG...ever..

Thank you for the information, will correct my post.. Your bussy this weekend? Care for a romantic dinner, with a bootle from bordeaux?

[Cochese]

Originally posted by Zitos
I read in an other thread that [NrA] was 'siding' with [SWEET], because they had more members in [SWEET] galaxys, than in [VoM] galaxys.. Therefor i take it that [VoM] also got some [NrA] members inside..

Well, our galaxy policies are different, so it muddies the water.

They allow anyone but VoM in their galaxies, wheras we allow only VoM.

Sure, there are exceptions, and yes, not everyone followed this "rule"...but by and large, our galaxies could be called more "pure".

[JC]

Originally posted by Zitos


JC, thank you for putting that out for me.. If i remember correct, Auld was NewDawn and hirr.. Part of CAT during round seven?

Yeah but the hirr left and AULD became ND/Ety/Nemesis, i'm not sure if Nemesis are still part of it though, i dont know much about them these days.

[Zitos]

thank you for the additional info.. it realy helps on making a picture..

[Zitos]

Originally posted by JC
i dont know much about them these days.

we might see when the round draws nearer.. its however sad that an alliance such as hirr should just wanish this way.. i realy hope theres still more life in them..

Legion have allied to Fury..........

Damn wrong round

[K-W]

Originally posted by Zitos
Eclipse is what i call a Fury2
[/b]

Please dont do that. Eclipse is by no means a Fury2. Not a single original Fury founder is in any way involved with it. There are plenty of people who have never been Fury who are. Fury no longer exists in PA, so ex Fury members have to move onto other things.

Originally posted by Zitos
Whom with who..
The 'impression' I have got so far, is that its [VoM] vs. [SWEET] - This is kinda like [Xanaduion] vs. [Furgion] - just with some mixes though.. And then we got [NrA] siding with booth the sides, in true [FoS] style.. Will you ever learn?

[/b]

Well, FoS did have some ugly fencesitting, it did make a round alot more fun. Meanwhile, comparing the situation in this round to any rounds of old is a gross over simplification.

I only say this stuff because lots of past rounds have been ruined due to the biases of people against and for certain alliances. Lets really try not to bring those bias's back. legion, Fury, xanadu etc are all gone. Lets not just jump in and cast them in roles from before. For all you know NrA could have a great alliance and vom or sweet could be a disaster. Its a whole very new round and it may or may not resemble any given round of the past.

[Cochese]

Eclipse is clearly not a "new Fury" or "Fury 2".

They have only one true goal: Phwoar!

[Zitos]

Thank you Germania (right?) for your pointing finger there.. But im just writing 'what i heard' .. see? But I got to agree with you on your words there.. (-:

[Sirad]

for your thread info.
hirr is with Nos.

[SYMM]

Originally posted by Zitos
Your bussy this weekend? Care for a romantic dinner, with a bootle from bordeaux?

I'm sorry, do I know you? Or is this some new fashion to make a pass at people on internet forums for no reason?
(sorry for the OT, but i'm a bit scared)

[Zitos]

Originally posted by SYMM
Or is this some new fashion to make a pass at people on internet forums for no reason?

there you got your answear hunney (-:

[MotoX]

While we are at it: What have Nos ever done in/to this game? They have been mentioned in several posts (almost everyone) they were formed in R5 or R6 but have never been a major part/force in any big confrontation so far…..

I tried to see the impact they made in “any” war that have been fought this far…. But nope..

So please tell me why we still recognize Nos as force/player in PA?

[K-W]

Originally posted by MotoX
While we are at it: What have Nos ever done in/to this game? They have been mentioned in several posts (almost everyone) they were formed in R5 or R6 but have never been a major part/force in any big confrontation so far…..

I tried to see the impact they made in “any” war that have been fought this far…. But nope..

So please tell me why we still recognize Nos as force/player in PA?

Nos was a major factor and player in round 4 where it switched sides and backstabbed and swung momentum around. But between then and now its been to the depths.

It is a powerful enough alliance to be mentioned with others in that briefing, not amazinglly powerful or a great force on its own, but it is powerful enough to calculate into blocks, and politically skilled enough to be involved in blocks, and thus should be in a briefing.

[SpazMonster]

Indeed Germ, and there are alot of alliances in a similar position. Politically, this round has the potential to be the most interesting one in a long while. Should be fun to watch the round develop

[Felagund]

Originally posted by Cochese
Well, our galaxy policies are different, so it muddies the water.

They allow anyone but VoM in their galaxies, wheras we allow only VoM.

Sure, there are exceptions, and yes, not everyone followed this "rule"...but by and large, our galaxies could be called more "pure".

Ainch!!

[MotoX]

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It is a powerful enough alliance to be mentioned with others in that briefing, not amazinglly powerful or a great force on its own, but it is powerful enough to calculate into blocks, and politically skilled enough to be involved in blocks, and thus should be in a briefing. [/b][/quote]


Fare enough, but even if they did make some ”impact” none of the top gals was Nos, and so far I haven’t seen 1 Nos gal ”up” there…

So the political way they have succeed but “score ways” they haven’t, or?

[Felagund]

Nos does not exist forget about us

[MotoX]

[quote]Originally posted by Felagund
Nos does not exist forget about us [/QUOTE


ok!

[SYMM]

felly, didn't you quit?

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Zitos
I dont know how Elysium is thees days, but they might be doing good too, I would apreciate some info on them..

We're still here.

[Iceaxe]

Originally posted by MotoX
Fare enough, but even if they did make some ”impact” none of the top gals was Nos, and so far I haven’t seen 1 Nos gal ”up” there…

So the political way they have succeed but “score ways” they haven’t, or?

Assuming you're not taking the piss here, look at the r4 and r6 galaxy rankings and their tags.

Additionally, the #3 planet in r6 was NoS if I'm not mistaken.

[K-W]

Originally posted by MotoX
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Fare enough, but even if they did make some ”impact” none of the top gals was Nos, and so far I haven’t seen 1 Nos gal ”up” there…

So the political way they have succeed but “score ways” they haven’t, or?

Nos had a top gal in rd 6. Rnd 7 only Fury and Legion had top gals, and rd 8 was dominated at the stop time by the tits block. Very few alliances have had top spots, thats a block dependent factor.

[Maddix]

Interesting speculation

Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Legion have allied to Fury..........

Damn wrong round

Or is it....?

[Zitos]

Motox - The only reason you havent 'seen' NoS that muhc, got to be that you havent played that much either.. It started out round two or three (i have forgotten) as an cluster alliance for cluster 37, 29 or some other cluster (still forgotten here..) It was so 'good' that it was taken to the next round as an alliance.. Kinda like The Legion and The Fury.. (-:

When you say they have never made an impact to this game, you will probably be wrong.. They switch sides more often than people do while having sex with eachother.. It gives a whole lot of fun..

And acording to NTR (if im not wrong again..) They have ruined Xanadus chance of victory in every round since round four..

(-:

.. i might be waaaay wrong here, i just dont remember all the info.. )-:

[Scouse]

Originally posted by K-W
Rnd 7 only Fury and Legion had top gals

Is that a joke? Or did you mean 'top gal'?

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by Iceaxe
Assuming you're not taking the piss here, look at the r4 and r6 galaxy rankings and their tags.

Additionally, the #3 planet in r6 was NoS if I'm not mistaken.

We actually had 3 top 10 players that round, and at least 4 top 10 Gals.

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And it is hillarious to see people guessing on NoS' or even NrA's (something doesn't exist already got a name, yay!) policy.

NoS has always made clever political moves through the rounds, who never appealed to the broad public, but certainly always made a round more interesting. Just look at round 6 when FoS allied Furgion instead of totally killing them off like they had done round before... It prevented stagnation, noone able to doubt that.

NoS will have a blast round, and will probably piss most of you off again, and........I am already looking forward to it

[MotoX]

Originally posted by WipeOut
We actually had 3 top 10 players that round, and at least 4 top 10 Gals.

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And it is hillarious to see people guessing on NoS' or even NrA's (something doesn't exist already got a name, yay!) policy.

NoS has always made clever political moves through the rounds, who never appealed to the broad public, but certainly always made a round more interesting. Just look at round 6 when FoS allied Furgion instead of totally killing them off like they had done round before... It prevented stagnation, noone able to doubt that.

NoS will have a blast round, and will probably piss most of you off again, and........I am already looking forward to it

Only push a small ”button” and the cavalry will come to rescue – politics……..

[Scouse]

Originally posted by WipeOut
Just look at round 6 when FoS allied Furgion instead of totally killing them off like they had done round before... It prevented stagnation, noone able to doubt that.

But that wasn't down to NoS. That was down to Dues, remember?

[Provider]

Originally posted by Scouse
But that wasn't down to NoS. That was down to Dues, remember?

hehe so you say NoS did what Deus told them.. nha.. NoS is "arrogant, smart, whatever" enough to do what they feel is best. And with this decision they did not always follow their allies. (which resulted in the "bad" reputation nos had)

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Provider
hehe so you say NoS did what Deus told them.. nha.. NoS is "arrogant, smart, whatever" enough to do what they feel is best. And with this decision they did not always follow their allies. (which resulted in the "bad" reputation nos had)

(psst, between you and I, it was just a dig at Deus)

I'm sure NoS supported it, since it was best for them at the time.

[K-W]

Originally posted by Scouse
Is that a joke? Or did you mean 'top gal'?

Sorry I mispoke.

[Iceaxe]

Originally posted by WipeOut
We actually had 3 top 10 players that round, and at least 4 top 10 Gals.

Yeah I know but Rev was the first to come to mind.

[hAl]

Originally posted by WipeOut
NoS has always made clever political moves through the rounds, who never appealed to the broad public, but certainly always made a round more interesting.

That one made me chuckle.

hAl

[Zitos]

Originally posted by Provider
had

so their reputation is good now?

[Provider]

Originally posted by Zitos
so their reputation is good now?

did you see them really backstabbing any allie since round 6?
(and don't give me a ntr orientated answer about rnd 7 )

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Zitos

[SWEET]
Sapientia, The Wolfpack, Elysium, Eclipse and ToT
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Sapientia is some thing new, I got a feeling its people from Silver and then Xylem, but then again - I dont know..

Neither do I know much about them and apparently I am allied to them Never been in any discussions with Sapientia - so conclude as you want from that

Originally posted by Zitos

Eclipse is what i call a Fury2, I read that Focht would be among the hc (or excs,) so it got to rock.. ToT and their Juniorwing (if it still exist) are probably doing good too..

I'm disappointed here. For reference - here is my list of Fury's Executive throughout its history.

• Germania - became Executive in r6, established to lead r6 Wrath inplace of myself. r7 progressed to Political/Military position. r8 was more general. Wrath Era
• KillGhost - became Executive in r7, established within Intel as was regarded as the protege to Ghengis in that area. Final Era
• Focht - became Executive at the end of r7 to lead Military whilst Germania was away. Progressed to a Military department for the two latter rounds. Before then was involved in T&P for Fury at Sid's discretion. Final Era
• Roland - Knew I missed someone. Became Executive in r7 I believe. Was r5 Wrath Officer and r6 Fury Officer - may have become Exec in the latter half of r6 but Im not too sure. Wrath Era
• Blurb - Missed him again. ISA Executive for r7. Quit after he went abit mental over something or other - was soon after the Fury Meet also. Final Era
• ViaraiX - Head of tech since r3. Position wasnt confirmed to be that of Executive till late r5 or early r6 I believe. Regardless of actual rank, was in charge of technology throughout its history thus has no specific Era.
• Zhil - became Executive in R5, position to recreate a new recruitment method for Fury after the disaster of Fury Prov. This lead to Wrath. Was burnt out during R5 and the R6 position as Military Exec did not last long. Led R7 Wrath, and resigned as there was nothing he could give to Fury afterwards. The most 'chaotic' Exec within Fury. Wrath Era
• Meth - Did not become Exec till R7 and was established to help oversee the Executive with Cryptic. However Meth had high up roles within r5 and r6 - Meth/Zhil were always a 'team' within Fury itself regardless of relative positions at the time
• Idler - Was Executive till r4 where he was demoted for inactivity. After being demoted further he left for Legion. Became Executive within r3 I 'think'. Golden Era Executive
• AlbinoSqrl - His rank was surrounded with mystery, but seems he was classed as Executive during his term within Fury. I would guess this was r2 after he had to rewrite the entire Fury memberlist. Golden Era Executive
• Cyclone - Only female Executive within Fury's history. Resigned during r2 in a sudden move that threatened to cripple Fury entirely.
• Cayl - "Executive" from r2 onwards. Nearly single handingly had to run Fury after the internal collapse of r4. His rousing speech during that round is my personal most fond memory of Cayl/Ghere. C7r. Fury Founder (although he may have been brought in later, I still class him as a Founder)
• Ghengis - Executive from r2 onwards till r6. Primed for Diplomacy with Grendel and Fury Intelligence. Surprised Fury by offering me for promotion. To this day tries to get Zhil to stop drinking Cider. C7r. Fury Founder.
• Cryptic - Executive from r2 onwards. Became Chief Executive in r7 and resigned from command for r8. The most laidback Executive ever. C7r. Fury Founder.
• Synthetic Sid - The man himself. Chief Executive from r3 onwards. Executive for r2. Directed Fury's politics (and arguebly thus dictated the motion of the game's politics ever since). Ruthless, skilled, clever yet friendly - Hail Sid! C7r. Fury Founder.

Admittingly Eclipse contains myself and KillGhost in addition to Focht but its definately not a new Fury.

Originally posted by Zitos
Covardice?
Thats realy what its all about.. When you got to little faith in your alliance, you team up with another alliance.. So how much faith does your alliance have in you?

We will see..

Faith does not translate to stupidity in the political arena.

[K-W]

What a fun, and totally unneccessary review Zhil. I love it.

[Zh|l]

Missed Blurb, Roland and ViaraiX from my list. Corrected a few minor round promotions also.

Originally posted by Zh|l
Missed Blurb, Roland and ViaraiX from my list. Corrected a few minor round promotions also.

Who reminded you ? /me pokes

[Zh|l]

As requested.

Wrath Executive

• Zhil - Led r5 Wrath. Made 'famous' for it. Orchestrated the entire of midround to latter for r5 regarding Wrath including the NFU 'war'. Wrath Founder. r5 Dictator. r6 Wrath Advisor. r7 Dictator. Golden Era
• Meth - Was Wrath Exec during r5, was vital to its establishment. However real life claimed him before he ever truely got to see what joy he had helped create. Bet he regrets it Wrath Founder (Its not a very well known fact that Meth was actually involved in the Wrath Project before me - he suggested my involvement to Sid and although he is not as famous as me for Wrath, I class him as a founder because without his support and work it would never have come to be). Golden Era
• Borric - Wrath Exec during r5. Came from a Fury Officer position. Upon his time to take up my responsibilities he suddenly quit and defected to Legion. Hatred by myself for his betrayle in Wrath. Nearly resulted in the total collapse of r5 Wrath. Golden Era
• WonderBra - Replaced Borric as Wrath Executive in r5. Was incharge of Military, whilst I ran all other affairs. Golden Era
• Germania - Led r6 Wrath. Was dealt a hard round on his first Exex role and produced battle hardened upgrades. r6 Dictator. Tough Era
• Petru - Was an executive within r6 Wrath. Was also busy with PA stuff and life :P. Tough Era
• Shadow1980 - Only continued r5 Wrath onto the command team for r6. Was a r5 Wrath Officer made Executive for r6. Resigned during the round though to be with his sweetheart. awww. Tough Era
• [MS]Johnson - Came from being a Fury Officer in r5 to lead Wrath military in r6. However his services became more needed within Fury. Quit end of round I believe. Tough Era
• Minty - Wrath Executive in r7. Dealt with Morale/Communications. Quit during the round. Final Era
• Hicks - Wrath Executive in r7. Dealt with Military primarily. Final Era
• AlbinoSqrl - Wrath Executive in r7. Dealt with Applications and general issues (my personal assistant *grin*). Final Era

[Cochese]

Final Era Wrath owns you all.