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Unread 8 Oct 2017, 10:25   #1
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Cluster Alliances
Christmas Round

- cluster alliances with predetermined HC teams.
- teams of 5 can submit themselves to be Cluster leaders
- community votes on their top 5 leadership teams
- they are given a cluster to lead each
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Re: Cluster Alliances
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Why not?

I think its a great idea, atleast it wouldnt be a repeat of that community round where one apprime troll spent two weeks of his life to wreck havoc as a "cluster leader".

Community rounds can be much more entertaining and giving than normal rounds for a lot of people as they have to work with people they dont know, and usualy have to step up and do stuff likr setting up attacks and what not, wich theyve never done before in their normal alliances.


A lot of the "pre PaX/PaN" magic was that the game was way more individualy/gal based than it is today.
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Why not?

I think its a great idea, atleast it wouldnt be a repeat of that community round where one apprime troll spent two weeks of his life to wreck havoc as a "cluster leader".

Community rounds can be much more entertaining and giving than normal rounds for a lot of people as they have to work with people they dont know, and usualy have to step up and do stuff likr setting up attacks and what not, wich theyve never done before in their normal alliances.


A lot of the "pre PaX/PaN" magic was that the game was way more individualy/gal based than it is today.
Yeah, pretty much this...
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I'm not the one suggesting changes. The burden of proof is not on me.

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Community rounds can be much more entertaining and giving than normal rounds for a lot of people as they have to work with people they dont know, and usualy have to step up and do stuff likr setting up attacks and what not, wich theyve never done before in their normal alliances.
Join another alliance and volunteer as BC. Why force everyone else to do the same?
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Unread 8 Oct 2017, 13:49   #6
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Join another alliance and volunteer as BC. Why force everyone else to do the same?
Since when is giving people the ability to run things the same as FORCING them to?

Community round means playing with the community, not your small circle of friends/allies.
The way the game is mostly played now days is dictated by strict alliance rules. Ie, last round VGN/ND/KittenZ/LionZ/etc members was forbidden to defend gal m8s vs incs from each others. Most players are threated as sheeps or bricks in some small group of people quest for gal or planet winz

Last years xmas round was a relevation for me, seeing how incapable and toxic the general playerbase had become.
Any changes that would make these community rounds better would be most welcome.
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Since when is giving people the ability to run things the same as FORCING them to?
You're missing my point: they already have the ability!
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Re: Cluster Alliances
The only change that could be made which could (might) persuade me to play a Christmas round would be to restore tick length to one hour. As it is now it is (just) a glorified form of havoc - and little, if any, more important.

If we want to try to restore some of the "glories of the past" then perhaps let's try a "genuine round" with random galaxies (for example).
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The only change that could be made which could (might) persuade me to play a Christmas round would be to restore tick length to one hour. As it is now it is (just) a glorified form of havoc - and little, if any, more important.

If we want to try to restore some of the "glories of the past" then perhaps let's try a "genuine round" with random galaxies (for example).
I agree with this request. I think a community based round could be a nice change of base as it is during a time where most wont be as "active" as normal.
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Re: Cluster Alliances
As the previous winner of this round last year I better throw my two pennies in😬

Ticks have to be 15 mins to make the game fun + festive

C allies sounds ok. But you will always have issues with leaks/bad hcs etc


Last round was fine - galaxies and ppl set up their own groups

8 man priv gals and 12 man random gals
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Re: Cluster Alliances
Regardless. Turn on cluster eta and allow the community to decide if it wants to re-create the cluster alliances of old. I used to find them quite useful and entertaining. Since the end of cluster eta we have seen a lot less community spirit.

It's clearly wanted. I can point you to the telegram planetarion channel which seems to be consistently busy with discussions such as these.
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Regardless. Turn on cluster eta and allow the community to decide if it wants to re-create the cluster alliances of old. I used to find them quite useful and entertaining. Since the end of cluster eta we have seen a lot less community spirit.

It's clearly wanted. I can point you to the telegram planetarion channel which seems to be consistently busy with discussions such as these.
Shameless plug there munks.

I agree with the above, maybe not force an agenda, just keen to ensure some good leadership for each cluster but I guess with any cluster alliance the cream will rise etc.
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Regardless. Turn on cluster eta and allow the community to decide if it wants to re-create the cluster alliances of old. I used to find them quite useful and entertaining. Since the end of cluster eta we have seen a lot less community spirit.

It's clearly wanted. I can point you to the telegram planetarion channel which seems to be consistently busy with discussions such as these.
This is a thing I'd very much like to see. Not only for the Christmas round but in general too.
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As the previous winner of this round last year I better throw my two pennies in😬

Ticks have to be 15 mins to make the game fun + festive

C allies sounds ok. But you will always have issues with leaks/bad hcs etc


Last round was fine - galaxies and ppl set up their own groups

8 man priv gals and 12 man random gals
One of the issues last community round was that you guys ruined it with leaks/bad HCing cus you went into it playing it as a normal round in FL
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I wouldn't mind the thought of team captains for the xmas round
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Christmas Round
- community votes on their top 5 leadership teams
- they are given a cluster to lead each
I'd prefer to start with a big gal with everybody... ingal attacks on. After 1 week the top 5 players are each given a cluster to lead.
Then Cluster #5 receives player #6
Cluster #4 receives player #7
Cluster #3 receives player #8
Cluster #2 receives player #9
Cluster #1 receives player #10
and so on...
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I said "random people in your cluster" and not "random people in your galaxy".
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