Reet

[The_Fish]

ND are solo, and will not be blocking this round unless forced into it. (:

[SYMM]

Originally posted by The_Fish
unless

THat one word makes anything else in your post completely worthless.
If i was in Focht's position, I would have exactly the same attitude. He has no responsibility to tell you anything, and in fact threads like this would just make me laugh at all the mindless idiots on AD who give any credit to the poster.
I'd give up now, it is you, Morden and Kjeldoran(sp?) who are appearing stupid, not Focht and Eclipse

[edit]
Just for the record, I have never been a member of Fury. Eclipse, ToT or any other alliance so far mentioned in this thread, have never chatted/been "aquaianted" with Focht, or in fact (I think) any other Eclipse member, and if any of the alliances mentioned did work together, I would be very worried

[Mikee]

Originally posted by Sonnenbomber
or why not ToT/Ecl/RaH like dragons expected?
and perhaps we ve also secret agreements with the Dragons.
ROFL
just wait for official announces or tell your intel to work a bit more exactly and stop creating rumours, sometimes real facts will do better to discuss about.

did LDK admit to a NAP with Dragons n00bs last round? i think not
Sonnen we know w00ts coming clealeh since its not a matter of u not being arsed to reply more a case of u hiding the truth u little skunk ( errrr i meant skank)

[Mikee]

Originally posted by Razorback
There was no meeting with KJ on this topic neither with ToT.
I had a normal pm with Sonnenbomber about various non pa stuff in which he asked me about eclipses r10 plans.
KJ pmed (like he usually does) me and sonnenbomber seperate.
He tried to feed me some bs about sonnenbomber telling him about tot's r10 plans and that they were allied to us. For which i called Sonnenbomber who in return went to Leff (Fang hc) and asked him to stop KJ from spreading lies or rumors. Something which seems to be lately a common use in fang-
Furthermore Kj tried to pretend to my officers and command he would know about a deal with ToT which wasnt formed, for which i had a long and clearling chat with him.
He asked me for my options for r10 and i told him with due respect what i saw as possible partners. Here i named ToT since we had a good cooperation in r9.
While the chat went on he asked me if i would consider an alliance with FANG which i refused for various reasons. I said i would wait till the round and wouldnt want to form a block with fang in the first place so the only option was a nap which KJ refused.
I heared later that KJ went to ToT at the same time and also got offered a Nap there after his performance with missquoting Sonnenbomber he wasnt really hot to work with Fang.
After that i left for ibiza

Rumor is: Fang is desperate to find an ally or to form a block and stirrs **** after they got refused by their selfnamed dreampartners.

Everyone knowing Rah should know they wouldnt work with Eclipse unless hell freezes and its already sad if Kj pms me and tells me you and him dont believe yourself the threads you start.

So a good conclusion would be that this thread will go the way of your other thread. Closed....
Mods to work etc.

blah blah blah u still havent denied the fact that EET exists

[BigJoe]

See the post about ND/dragons/wp :P. They desparately need to justiify thier secret agreements among themselves not to hit each other and focus on OTHER alliances such as as those they named themselves as reet while putting forth a lie they now admit so that pa sentiment will go against those alliances in a two prong attack strategy. Fang may be doing the same thing with some other alliance or even with ND. Atm, they have a no nap/ally agreement among themselves publicly EXCEPT agreeing to focus on attacking reet so they can falsely CLAIM to be solo while they know very well this type of silent agreement is even more beneficial than a nap with each other.
Its pretty obvious they are trying to gather support for a "these evil reet"block campaign even tho they themselves admit reet doesn't exit while all the while its them with dirty secrets hiding in thier closet.

[Mikee]

Originally posted by Psi_K
I clearly ROCK!!!

me 2

and oooohhh before i forget Fury Sucks Fury Sucks (altho since their disbanded it should be Fury Sucked Fury Sucked). Maddix and Empress suck my Mother****ing Di*k

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Mikee
me 2

and oooohhh before i forget Fury Sucks Fury Sucks (altho since their disbanded it should be Fury Sucked Fury Sucked). Maddix and Empress suck my Mother****ing Di*k

Why thank you, when is your 6th birthday again?

[Rabbagast]

I´m signing up for a subscription to this thread

[KinGSmity]

Originally posted by Rabbagast
I´m signing up for a subscription to this thread

I think ill join ya Rabba.

[lizardking]

Originally posted by BigJoe
See the post about ND/dragons/wp :P. They desparately need to justiify thier secret agreements among themselves not to hit each other and focus on OTHER alliances such as as those they named themselves as reet while putting forth a lie they now admit so that pa sentiment will go against those alliances in a two prong attack strategy. Fang may be doing the same thing with some other alliance or even with ND. Atm, they have a no nap/ally agreement among themselves publicly EXCEPT agreeing to focus on attacking reet so they can falsely CLAIM to be solo while they know very well this type of silent agreement is even more beneficial than a nap with each other.
Its pretty obvious they are trying to gather support for a "these evil reet"block campaign even tho they themselves admit reet doesn't exit while all the while its them with dirty secrets hiding in thier closet.

Your missing the point my friend..

The difference between Rah/Ely/Ecl/ToT and Ðragons/ND/Pack is the fact we (as Ðragons atleast) have nothing but denied these rumours the first thing they started to fly around. There is absolutely nothing to hide or to tell. So the real question is, why isn't "the other side" doing the same? I would guess that is because the trueth will come out eventually and they know everything they are claiming right now will have aftereffects and it would be a bad move to bury chances before claiming a decent status in the universe compared to other alliances as well as the hatred against blocking itself.

Then ofc, after there's some solid proove, those certain staff members of certain few alliances will come out to say "We never claimed we didn't ally each other. We were merely looking for the right time to make it official" ...with clear conscience ofc.

btw, Joe.. maybe it's time u change ur forums account.. this 1 is getting rather old already, don't u think?

[TehVader]

Originally posted by lizardking
The difference between Rah/Ely/Ecl/ToT and Ðragons/ND/Pack is the fact we (as Ðragons atleast) have nothing but denied these rumours the first thing they started to fly around.

Same goes for ND (and I belive WP aswell?)

[Psi_K]

Originally posted by lizardking
Your missing the point my friend..

The difference between Rah/Ely/Ecl/ToT and Ðragons/ND/Pack is the fact we (as Ðragons atleast) have nothing but denied these rumours the first thing they started to fly around. There is absolutely nothing to hide or to tell.

Hrm, but obviously there's no communication between yourselves incase a counter block must be formed ... RIGHT?!?!

You're doing no better then what Rah/Ely/Ecl/Tot are doing, you're just admitting that there are no 'official' ties at this moment.

[lizardking]

Originally posted by Psi_K
Hrm, but obviously there's no communication between yourselves incase a counter block must be formed ... RIGHT?!?!

You're doing no better then what Rah/Ely/Ecl/Tot are doing, you're just admitting that there are no 'official' ties at this moment.

Hum communications.. ofc we keep in touch with our friends. Don't u?

We've known about these agreements for a long long time. It has been no secret to any1.

Surely, if we were counter blocking, we would have set things in motion ages ago?

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Psi_K
You're doing no better then what Rah/Ely/Ecl/Tot are doing, you're just admitting that there are no 'official' ties at this moment.

You either totally don't follow the discussion, or you are pretty clueless...actually possiblity for both in fact

[TehVader]

Originally posted by Psi_K
Hrm, but obviously there's no communication between yourselves incase a counter block must be formed ... RIGHT?!?!

You're doing no better then what Rah/Ely/Ecl/Tot are doing, you're just admitting that there are no 'official' ties at this moment.

Speaking from our point of view, no there's no communcation between us and Dragons/Pack about anything pa related.

[The_Fish]

Originally posted by TehVader
Speaking from our point of view, no there's no communcation between us and Dragons/Pack about anything pa related.

I can confirm that, and by 'unless' I mean if EET or REET or whoever is owning, we will block to prevent them having a comfortable ride (:

and what liz said, I talk to him, Jurgen, Biusa etc a lot, because they're good mates. Dragons/ND does not exist, and I barely even speak to WP members anymore, and that defenitely does not exist either.

[TehVader]

And ofc there's also the fact that Fish isn't the one making decisions anyways

[Parthos]

Originally posted by The_Fish
I can confirm that, and by 'unless' I mean if EET or REET or whoever is owning, we will block to prevent them having a comfortable ride (:

and what liz said, I talk to him, Jurgen, Biusa etc a lot, because they're good mates. Dragons/ND does not exist, and I barely even speak to WP members anymore, and that defenitely does not exist either.

Who do you plan to block with then?

[Morden]

for a moment i almost forgot that Eclipse, Elysium,ToT, Dragons, NewDawn and Pack were the only alliances playing round 10.

but tbh if ND wanted to counter EET if it does Exist it wouldnt be that difficult to get a few of the smaller alliances to side with them, as the main alliances arent as big as they used to be and are on a more level playing feild.

[The_Fish]

Originally posted by Parthos
Who do you plan to block with then?

we dont plan to block.

Vader, be quiet

[Kjeldoran]

Originally posted by SYMM
I'd give up now, it is you, Morden and Kjeldoran(sp?) who are appearing stupid, not Focht and Eclipse

I'm meeting with Morden to see what bridge we'll jump off from to spare us this huge humiliation. Morden will make an official post when we chose the brigde.

rgds Kj

[Kjeldoran]

Originally posted by BigJoe
See the post about ND/dragons/wp :P. They desparately need to justiify thier secret agreements among themselves not to hit each other and focus on OTHER alliances such as as those they named themselves as reet while putting forth a lie they now admit so that pa sentiment will go against those alliances in a two prong attack strategy. Fang may be doing the same thing with some other alliance or even with ND. Atm, they have a no nap/ally agreement among themselves publicly EXCEPT agreeing to focus on attacking reet so they can falsely CLAIM to be solo while they know very well this type of silent agreement is even more beneficial than a nap with each other.
Its pretty obvious they are trying to gather support for a "these evil reet"block campaign even tho they themselves admit reet doesn't exit while all the while its them with dirty secrets hiding in thier closet.

hilarious ...

[The_Fish]

Originally posted by Kjeldoran
I'm meeting with Morden to see what bridge we'll jump off from to spare us this huge humiliation. Morden will make an official post when we chose the brigde.

rgds Kj

why dont I get a say?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by The_Fish
ND are solo, and will not be blocking this round unless forced into it. (:

Originally posted by SYMM
THat one word makes anything else in your post completely worthless.

No, for once it's a truthful statement.

Look at r9.5, all the alliances that stated CATIGORICALLY that they would not work with any other such organisation.

What happened next?

Everyone fell far behind LDK and resorted to banding together to take them down, which means that they broke their word then.

It's impossible to make a statement that will remain truthful throughout the round whatever happens without including a word such as unless; political circumstances change, and needs change.

Whilst it may be taken as an attempt to preemptively justify the formation of a counterblock, which is possible, it's also possible for it to be a recognition of the fluid political reality which must exist for a universe of this size to stop the game drifting into stagnation. The only barrier to that at the current moment in time is the lack of understanding of the game mechanics.

[Norseman]

Originally posted by lizardking
Your missing the point my friend..

So the real question is, why isn't "the other side" doing the same?

Elysium has never, ever cared about AD and the public opinion when it comes to things like this, thats the simple why.

(..as to the obvious reason why noone in Ely has bothered to comment all this claptrap)

[Lei~]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
No, for once it's a truthful statement.

Look at r9.5, all the alliances that stated CATIGORICALLY that they would not work with any other such organisation.

What happened next?

Everyone fell far behind LDK and resorted to banding together to take them down, which means that they broke their word then.

It's impossible to make a statement that will remain truthful throughout the round whatever happens without including a word such as unless; political circumstances change, and needs change.

Whilst it may be taken as an attempt to preemptively justify the formation of a counterblock, which is possible, it's also possible for it to be a recognition of the fluid political reality which must exist for a universe of this size to stop the game drifting into stagnation. The only barrier to that at the current moment in time is the lack of understanding of the game mechanics.

before everyone banded together and hit ldk - tho there was never, or very seldom at least, any merged attacks at ldk and there was not much cooperation in total no communication channel between the alliance hcs as far as i know(someone correct me if im wrong im no hc) - ldk allied dragons and thus broke their pledge for going solo.

So if everyone would have stayed solo it would have been fairer but after all as long as ppl see a chance to win against an alone invincible alliance if they will ally, they will do it and ldk simply was faster, which shows that they in general had better tactics last round

The only question is why is it necessary to have powerblocks as early as this - if they exist that is. At this stage noone has really gained a big advantage and allying together now only shows that you dont have trust in your own alliance even before the real attacking has started...

Lame i think...

[Parthos]

Take your pick:

Originally posted by The_Fish
[1] ND are solo, and will not be blocking this round unless forced into it. […]

[2] I can confirm that, and by 'unless' I mean if EET or REET or whoever is owning, we will block to prevent them having a comfortable ride […]

[3] we dont plan to block.

Which is it? Is it 1?—Are ND solo? Is it 2—Do they plan to block if it turns out someone else is owning? Or is it 3—do they plan to not block at all? You've said all three. Guess I will close my eyes and pick one at random.

If ND plan to block if it turns out someone else is owning, surely you must have some idea of whom to block with, else it could turn out the whole universe is blocked up and ND is left out in the cold. So who is it? Do you deny that ND has no one in mind to block with should the need arise? And if you do not deny it, how can you say you do not plan to block?

Inquiring minds want to know

[Faberius]

This is the one of the saddest threads I've seen on alliance discussions. It confirms for me that indeed all the politically creative leaders in planetarion have moved on and all that people do is rinse and repeat the same political mechanations from previous rounds.

Come on! Put some effort into the wheeling and dealing!
This game got old the moment power blocking became some sort of cardinal sin.


J. Carpenter,
*the above opinions are not necessarily those of ND command, despite my historical connection to that alliance*

[Barrow|Pony]

From here on out, I will use one, and only one, catch-phrase to deal with any rumors regarding ND being evil.


The phrase is as follows,


"I Love You! Good Morning!"

[Eventh]

Originally posted by Barrow|Pony
From here on out, I will use one, and only one, catch-phrase to deal with any rumors regarding ND being evil.

The phrase is as follows,

"I Love You! Good Morning!"

ND is evil!!

[Hurragutten]

Originally posted by Barrow|Pony
From here on out, I will use one, and only one, catch-phrase to deal with any rumors regarding ND being evil.


The phrase is as follows,


"I Love You! Good Morning!"

No matter what time of day it is?

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Norseman
Elysium has never, ever cared about AD and the public opinion when it comes to things like this, thats the simple why.

(..as to the obvious reason why noone in Ely has bothered to comment all this claptrap)

I assumed they had kept quiet because their previous 'trips' to AD (I remember one by Eylisia specifically) have ended in humiliation or just made them look stupid. Perhaps they are actually more intelligent than they are given credit for (unlike most of the rest of us).

Originally posted by Barrow|Pony
From here on out, I will use one, and only one, catch-phrase to deal with any rumors regarding ND being evil.


The phrase is as follows,


"I Love You! Good Morning!"

Barrow for President!

P.S. ND are evil

[The_Fish]

Originally posted by Parthos
Inquiring minds want to know

Isn't that common sense? ND are solo, and shall be staying solo unless the need arises to not be solo. We have no plans to block with anyone. Why plan to block with someone if we dont know who will be winning?

*edit* or if, indeed, blocking is necessary.

[Norseman]

Originally posted by Maddix
I assumed they had kept quiet because their previous 'trips' to AD (I remember one by Eylisia specifically) have ended in humiliation or just made them look stupid. Perhaps they are actually more intelligent than they are given credit for (unlike most of the rest of us).

All im saying is...that Elysium has never really had a strategy when it comes to "propaganda". The alliance made a fool of herself in r4 because of peons/noobs, like partly myself, commenting things they knew nothing about. Ever since its been like a tradition to stay away from AD.

Surely, when a rumour changes its form and in the public eyes becomes a truth, then you may have seen ppl from the ely command trying to deny the very thing. A reply made by someone in the command will close to always be found in the last pages of a thread, thats the point I tried to make.

Originally posted by G.K Zhukov
Since Mr. Dreadn00b thinks its so hard to register a nick at Eclipse irc, I tell him how he can do it.

/msg e register [nick] [password] [Email-address]

[12:10:13] -E- No details for found for Zhukov.

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Lei~
before everyone banded together and hit ldk - tho there was never, or very seldom at least, any merged attacks at ldk and there was not much cooperation in total no communication channel between the alliance hcs as far as i know(someone correct me if im wrong im no hc) - ldk allied dragons and thus broke their pledge for going solo.

So they were solo until they were forced into it? ISN'T THAT WHAT FISH JUST SAID?

Originally posted by Lei~
So if everyone would have stayed solo it would have been fairer but after all as long as ppl see a chance to win against an alone invincible alliance if they will ally, they will do it and ldk simply was faster, which shows that they in general had better tactics last round

Why would it be fairer? The alliance with the best start, due to large random galaxies (meaning you can't hit the members effectively), would be untouchable unless the others were forced into blocking, which is WHAT FISH JUST SAID

Originally posted by Lei~
The only question is why is it necessary to have powerblocks as early as this - if they exist that is. At this stage noone has really gained a big advantage and allying together now only shows that you dont have trust in your own alliance even before the real attacking has started...

Because people don't want to lose.

[Psi_K]

Originally posted by Maddix
You either totally don't follow the discussion, or you are pretty clueless...actually possiblity for both in fact

And you miss the point as usual.

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Norseman
All im saying is...that Elysium has never really had a strategy when it comes to "propaganda

Other than laughing at AD, no - not really.

[Unf_Slasher]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
So they were solo until they were forced into it? ISN'T THAT WHAT FISH JUST SAID?

erm, you missunderstood lei there,
1. ldk allied dragons first, before anyone else banded together
2. no one banded together in rd 9.5, which is the reason why the round was lost vs a minority. there were no organization chans, no hc meetings, no shared defence, nothing.
the only case where something happened in a coordinated way was the fleet catch on sliekas, and that only because gosu organized it, and we pulled our alliances into it (mostly fang, but a few eclipse and tot ships)

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri


Why would it be fairer? The alliance with the best start, due to large random galaxies (meaning you can't hit the members effectively), would be untouchable unless the others were forced into blocking, which is WHAT FISH JUST SAID

let me give you another example, this is a game as we all remember, so its similar to a sporting match, now in boxing if you fight against someone who is stronger, bigger, better do you call in your 7 mates?
no, because it wouldnt be fair

now of course its the sense of this game to band together if your loosing, but from a strictly speaking point it isnt fairplay.
it is within the rules, so its okay, but the other alliance could without any arguments say you werent fair, you had x-times more players than we do.

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri


Because people don't want to lose.

just shows that people who block this early, arent confident in their alliance.
legion/fury/Rb were confident enough in rd 3 to say from the start they can beat 4/5th of the universe.
nowadays an alliance doesnt even believe they can beat 1/3

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
erm, you missunderstood lei there,
1. ldk allied dragons first, before anyone else banded together
2. no one banded together in rd 9.5, which is the reason why the round was lost vs a minority. there were no organization chans, no hc meetings, no shared defence, nothing.
the only case where something happened in a coordinated way was the fleet catch on sliekas, and that only because gosu organized it, and we pulled our alliances into it (mostly fang, but a few eclipse and tot ships)

1 and 2 are incompatible, and 1 is immaterial anyway ('But they did it first!')

It may not have been a block in the conventional sense, but there was cooperation which goes against what people said.

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
let me give you another example, this is a game as we all remember, so its similar to a sporting match, now in boxing if you fight against someone who is stronger, bigger, better do you call in your 7 mates?
no, because it wouldnt be fair

Actually, in a boxing match, people are organised by weight so there isn't such an imbalance.

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
now of course its the sense of this game to band together if your loosing, but from a strictly speaking point it isnt fairplay.
it is within the rules, so its okay, but the other alliance could without any arguments say you werent fair, you had x-times more players than we do.

Look at R6. People may complain, but it was a great round.

[xtothez]

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
just shows that people who block this early, arent confident in their alliance.

You might want to have a word with kjel about his confidence in FAnG then.

[Unf_Slasher]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
1 and 2 are incompatible, and 1 is immaterial anyway ('But they did it first!')

It may not have been a block in the conventional sense, but there was cooperation which goes against what people said.



Actually, in a boxing match, people are organised by weight so there isn't such an imbalance.



Look at R6. People may complain, but it was a great round.

actually they arent, just refuted your point.

and no, 1 attack for coorporation excuse me???
until the end i attacked eclipse planets, sometimes as mistake sometimes simply because i felt like it.

true in a boxing match there are rules, but lets take football, would you say Real Madrid vs Fc Pasching (very very small austrian club) would be fair? no it prolly wouldnt be, but still fc pasching would use only 11 players, and not 34 which might be the number where the game would be fair.

Rd 6 is something else, there were 3 equally strong blocks, so the whole round was a give and take and it wasnt sure who'd win until the very end.

[Unf_Slasher]

Originally posted by xtothez
You might want to have a word with kjel about his confidence in FAnG then.

ehm???
you might have a word with your intel sources about their reliability.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
Actually, in a boxing match, people are organised by weight so there isn't such an imbalance.

lol, you're missing his point but nm. Becides, in PA alliances are limited in size aswell. So infact, you CAN recruit upto 150 so the numbers would be even in the most extreme case. So again a 1 vs 1 is fair cause both can get to the memberslimit.

Just like in a boxing match, it depends on skills and movement(which would be translated in PA as activity)

rgds Kj

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
actually they arent, just refuted your point.

1. states that alliances banded together.
2. is a refutation that alliances banded together.

Looks incompatable to me.

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
and no, 1 attack for coorporation excuse me???

More than one attack. And officers working together to organise such things seems like cooperation to me.

Originally posted by Unf_Slasher
true in a boxing match there are rules, but lets take football, would you say Real Madrid vs Fc Pasching (very very small austrian club) would be fair? no it prolly wouldnt be, but still fc pasching would use only 11 players, and not 34 which might be the number where the game would be fair.

That isn't what you said earlier.

Earlier (in the boxing example) you stated that 'ganging together with 7 mates' wouldn't be fair, here you state that it would be.

Make up your mind.

[edit]

Oh, and the game isn't about being fair, it's about fun and (for some) winning.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri

That isn't what you said earlier.

Earlier (in the boxing example) you stated that 'ganging together with 7 mates' wouldn't be fair, here you state that it would be.

ohh ffs, quit whining m8. Fact is, in PA both alliances can get to 150 players. So yes, it's fair a 1 vs 1, always. If needed you just massrecruit or dunno what.

rgds Kj

[Unf_Slasher]

Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri
1. states that alliances banded together.
2. is a refutation that alliances banded together.

Looks incompatable to me.



More than one attack. And officers working together to organise such things seems like cooperation to me.



That isn't what you said earlier.

Earlier (in the boxing example) you stated that 'ganging together with 7 mates' wouldn't be fair, here you state that it would be.

Make up your mind.

are you deliberatly misunderstanding my points????
1. states that LDK and DRAGONS banded together.
2. refutes that the opposition banded together

there were 3 attacks total, 1 was an eclipse attack, which they did without fang participation, some tot ships helped, but i dont know how that was organized.
then the one on sliekas. Martin and i organized that one, both being fang officers at that time.
they only "coordination" that happened was, martin telling heartless (close friend of ours) that there would be a good window of opportunity for a fleetcatch so tot sent 200k fighters.
eclipse got the same message via lockhead and sent 100k
fang sent about 900k.
*sarcasm* OH NO A BLOCK

come on get real.

concerning the last point, it is made unclear by my lacking control of the english language. it wouldnt be fair for Real, since it hardly is their fault that pasching got no good players, but it would be the only way pasching had a chance to win.

of course people will ally in PA if they dont stand a chance to win alone. i learned my lesson in rd 9.5, we decided NOT to ally eclipse and tot, on a principle basis, and as a result we got our ass kicked. be that because ldk hat better players or better multis or they bribed spinner is completly beside the point.
we took the fair approach and got killed.

the alliances which spawned these discussions didnt, they supposedly allied before any oposittion even had a planet (note as far as i am concerned this is all rumour, since i havent seen any proof yet).

[SYMM]

You seem to have a real problem understanding the most simple of points.

1. states that alliances banded together.
2. is a refutation that alliances banded together.

Talking about different alliances, unless you think it makes sense to talk about LDK and Dragons "co-operating" to take down Sliekas???


And his use of the word "fair" in 2 places may be a little confusing, but its pretty obvious what he means.

Little team vs. Big Team wouldn't be a fair (as in equal) fight, but little team would play fairly (by the rules) and not put extra players on the pitch. Better?

[edit]
Should have given unf_slasher a bit more of a chance to reply maybe

[Morden]

Originally posted by Kjeldoran
I'm meeting with Morden to see what bridge we'll jump off from to spare us this huge humiliation. Morden will make an official post when we chose the brigde.

rgds Kj

Ive found a few possibilities, only problem is they're only 2ft high, I guess your all correct, we've not got 1/2 a brain between us.

[Morden]

Originally posted by Dreadnought
[12:10:13] -E- No details for found for Zhukov.

Well dont Sherlock you've solved the case.

Afterall Zhukov is far too silly to change his nick to something else and register that now isnt he.