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Unread 28 Jan 2005, 11:27   #51
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Hypocrisy.
No, hypocracy. Ruling by ideas you don't believe in.
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Unread 28 Jan 2005, 11:35   #52
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No, hypocracy. Ruling by ideas you don't believe in.
Has it been accepted by any respectable authorities yet? I found one vague mentioning of it as a word meaning "government by hypocrites" on a webpage entitled common spelling mistakes but nothing on www.dictionary.com or in the oxford english dictionary
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I could try and pretend that I meant to spell Hypocrisy incorrectly but to be honest I rarely write the word, being too busy indulging in such practices myself.

I do actually have a MASSIVE Holocaust rant but it would too vast for this thread. Just read Modernity and Ambivalence by Bauman, that will get you off to a running start.
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Modernity, argues Bauman, promised to bring the kind of clarity and transparency to human life that only reason can offer. This has not happened, and today we no longer believe that it ever will. We are ever more acutely aware of the irredeemable contingency of our existence, choices, identities and life-projects. Bauman goes on to examine why modernity did not deliver its promise. He argues that the answers lie in the promise itself and in the self-defeating nature of all attempts to fulfil it. Our post-modern age, Bauman suggests, is the time for reconciliation with ambivalence, and the time to learn how to live in an incurably ambiguous world.
Looks like a riveting read (note, this is one of those strange occasions where I'm unsure if I'm being sarcastic or not). I'd guess I'd probably disagree with everything in the book and end up calling him a relativist ****wit and using it (and maybe him) as fuel for the fire.


PS I'd really like to see your holocaust rant )

Especially seeing as I'm presuming I can't steal that book off the internet so it's now in at about number 453 in terms of books I want to buy just above anything by Heidegger.
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Has it been accepted by any respectable authorities yet?
I don't expect so. I didn't actually look for the definition, just made up a meaning.

Oh, and http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050120-091736

I was wondering what was going on.
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Unread 28 Jan 2005, 17:28   #55
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Cheney is Jewish.
I thought he was Methodist?
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there was a jew on radio 4 this morning at 6:45 ish.

he survived belsen as a child with his parents. after the war he settled in england and grew up here (with his parents)
he refused an invitation from the queen to attend lunch and to comemorate the holocaust.
he said that he felt it was hyprocritical of england to remember the holocaust because after the war we had let hundreds of thousands of jews settle but quote "we had not helped them enough"

clearly his life has been poisoned in this belief. the belief that england should have housed them better (a 3 bed terrace in stepney green, worth today some £500,000) and given them more.

the argumebt against such silliness is that england suffered very hard in the post war period, america had asked for repayment of 'war debt' and rationing was in place until it finally ended when 52? 54?

yet it took a fellow jewish survivor, i forget who but he is now a Lord sitting in the house. to tell him that such arguments were silly and lacking in gratitude.

clearly this poor man has been consumed by his wrong beliefs.

there are those on GD who are similarly consumed. i hope that it does not take 60 years and a one on one chat with a peer of the realm to even get through to them.
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My grandfather died in Auschwitz...

he fell off a guard tower.
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My grandfather died in Auschwitz...

he fell off a guard tower.
would it be insensitive to laugh at this? bloody jews.
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On this anniversary of the liberation of the camp the Russian, Israeli, German and French leaders are all there but the President Bush sent Dick Cheney and tony Blair sent Jack Straw. Why are they not there? Surely they could make some type of symbolic gesture especially as their stresses of removing tyrants and allowing people to be free.
Yes, because its a great idea to have all ofthe worlds leaders in one spot.
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Yes, because its a great idea to have all ofthe worlds leaders in one spot.
i don'tknow if you're being double double ironic facetious, or if you;re just foolish.

ill make an educated guess.
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