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Unread 17 Sep 2003, 17:35   #1
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antidepressants

i'm scared to go see my doctor cause she thinks i'm depressed and need antidepressants or something

and anyway this morning some classmates and i were talking about antidepressants and how we're worried about taking mood altering drugs.

i'm just wondering from those of you who take them... do they really work? or is it just the mind thing that makes them work?
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i know a few people who are on them and they say they work...

check out the side effects first though.
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check out the side effects first though.
Many can cause suicidal urges aparently.
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Re: antidepressants

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i'm scared to go see my doctor cause she thinks i'm depressed and need antidepressants or something
So tell her to **** off? Just because she says you should take them it doesn't mean you HAVE to take them, jeez.
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Re: antidepressants

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i'm scared to go see my doctor cause she thinks i'm depressed and need antidepressants or something

and anyway this morning some classmates and i were talking about antidepressants and how we're worried about taking mood altering drugs.

i'm just wondering from those of you who take them... do they really work? or is it just the mind thing that makes them work?
Here is advise from future Pharmacyst. Even though I still have 5 years to go before I can suggest anything to anyone, but... I would suggest you not taking any antidepressants at all, sooner or later they will **** you up.
Plus, knowing that you are still quet young, I think it's stupid of even considering taking those drugs.
I think you should go and see "Matchstick Man" instead, it will give you some ideas about doctors, patients and medication, and it's also a very good film!
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hmm

it depends if the ones that consume all your former self and make you walk around a shallow zombie of your former self or not.
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i was on them for a little while, well, mood stabilisers.

eventually i got pissed off cos it was like being asleep. i wasnt in control but i was. it wasnt the usual me, it was drugged up me, so i came off them. and ive never been happier.
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i was on them for a little while, well, mood stabilisers.

eventually i got pissed off cos it was like being asleep. i wasnt in control but i was. it wasnt the usual me, it was drugged up me, so i came off them. and ive never been happier.
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I think you should go and see "Matchstick Man" instead, it will give you some ideas about doctors, patients and medication, and it's also a very good film!
i saw that last night!!
my friends phoned me up and invited me to go :P


(btw.. obviously i'm not taking any, seriously planning to.. i'm just curious. and i haven't seen my doctor in 6 months because of her hinting and i don't plan on going back any time soon)
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You should not take them. They can **** you seriously up, no matter what.

Besides, doctors suck at these things. A close family member almost died beacause a doctor thought he was depressed, and gave him anti-depressants. He ended up lying in bed for 2 1/2 years.

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helped me stop freaking out and refusing to go outside for long enough to sort my head out

side effects totally suck though
bit like being stoned all the time
and the first two weeks got even worse panic attacks

ask the doctor of what benefit he/she thinks they will be and in what way
they are definitely over prescribed these days
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remember that conversation we had when i interrupted your delicate genious? Yep Yep
it seems you are paying the price of being evil to men

loliness is both crime and a punishment

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anti-depressants suck, i'm on them, all they do is make you want to shout and beat **** up, but all you can do is sit there and almost smile.

get stoned instead, everythings much nicer.
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It sounds like Aryn is on the verge of seeing a giant time-travelling .

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remember that conversation we had when i interrupted your delicate genious? Yep Yep
it seems you are paying the price of being evil to men

loliness is both crime and a punishment

HA HA HA
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remember that conversation we had when i interrupted your delicate genious? Yep Yep
it seems you are paying the price of being evil to men

loliness is both crime and a punishment

HA HA HA
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uhm.. i have no idea what you're talking about actually remind me.

oh and i'm not looking, but ta for caring
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Even if you are pecribed anti-depressents, you don't have to actually take them.

You're not afterall living in a nut-house.
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You're not afterall living in a nut-house.
that's what you think.
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Physical health is objective, mental health is subjective. She's acting in what she thinks is your best interest.
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From the Doctor's point of view, these are the same.
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no actually i believe my doctor's point of view is 'if i make her believe she needs drugs i'll make more money'
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no actually i believe my doctor's point of view is 'if i make her believe she needs drugs i'll make more money'
This is why private healthcare sucks.
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our healthcare isnt' privatized
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Screwing up your head in a different way won't help your wellbeing in the slightest.
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uhm.. i have no idea what you're talking about actually remind me.

oh and i'm not looking, but ta for caring
like that time you wore a ponytail and men would try to talk to you and you would give them the dirty look.... and liking to harm men in general
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i didn't give men dirty looks
just the shocked 'what are you doing.. go away creepy man!' look.
completely different :\

and i don't wish all men general harm.. just a certain few.
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i didn't give men dirty looks
just the shocked 'what are you doing.. go away creepy man!' look.
completely different :\

and i don't wish all men general harm.. just a certain few.
not me i hope
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saying what i said however my friend has bipolar disorder and was suicidal for 6 months (ending in me running flat out three miles after him and then passing out whilst my mate got a bike caught up with him, dragged him back off a motorway bridge and had to punch him to the floor to stop himself jumping in front of a lorry) we took him to a hospital, they put him in observation till the pills kicked in. he is a lot happier now (not due to the drugs) but they certainly helped him overcome stuff
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and anyway this morning some classmates and i were talking about antidepressants and how we're worried about taking mood altering drugs.

i'm just wondering from those of you who take them... do they really work? or is it just the mind thing that makes them work?
Trust your doctor. Take the pills.....



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i'm scared to go see my doctor cause she thinks i'm depressed and need antidepressants or something

and anyway this morning some classmates and i were talking about antidepressants and how we're worried about taking mood altering drugs.

i'm just wondering from those of you who take them... do they really work? or is it just the mind thing that makes them work?
I prescribe 30 minutes exercise per day, for 6 days per week for two months. if you are not feeling better, go to the doctor and get some antidepressants.
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like that time you wore a ponytail and men would try to talk to you and you would give them the dirty look.... and liking to harm men in general
just because a woman wears a ponytail doesn't mean she will automatically open her legs for any man who tries to talk to her.
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our healthcare isnt' privatized
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because i'd have to pay to go see her again
you know.. they get paid for each visit they get.
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So? Half the people here fall into that category...
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just because a woman wears a ponytail doesn't mean she will automatically open her legs for any man who tries to talk to her.
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Alot of people confuse depression with unhappiness.

Thats certianly true.
Clearly everyone feels unhappy and down for some periods of time.
If its just general malaise and unhappiness your feeling then all you need to do is find something to do that makes you happier or change some aspect of your life thats not working out.

If your having disturbing thoughts or serious apathy for everything and acting in ways you know are not normal for you even when you were sad then the doc might have a point.

Personally I aint happy at the moment,my parents thought for a while that I was depressed and were hinting at seeing someone.

A little explination solved the problem.


Oh and my uncle was on anti-depressants for a while and they seriously screwed him up instead of helping.
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If your having disturbing thoughts or serious apathy for everything and acting in ways you know are not normal for you even when you were sad then the doc might have a point.
What if someone has been having disturbing thoughts and serious apathy for their whole life?
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What if someone has been having disturbing thoughts and serious apathy for their whole life?
Then thats clearly normal for them,if they have thoughts of kittens and fluffy things then they should immediatly present themselves at the nearest Nut House for an emergency lobotomy!
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In my case the main effect of antidepressents has been that they have have improved my concentration and memory, and restored my sleep to something like human norms (i.e. <10hrs/night rather than >14hrs/night, and i no longer suffer fatigue during the day). It remains to be seen whether i am less prone to anxiety and mood depression when i return to a more stressful enviroment. The only side effects were a slight sense of nausea for the first day or so.

It is possible this is a placebo effect of course, but it seems unlikely as the things have gone through double-blind clinical trials.

Contrary to what Tocatta & Fugue says, a course of anti-depressants can permanently cure the physiological side of depression.
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(i.e. <10hrs/night rather than >14hrs/night, and i no longer suffer fatigue during the day).
My doc said depressed people are supposed to wake up early. :-/
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depression almost always leads to altered sleep patterns, usually disrupted sleep but sometimes excessive sleepiness.
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