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Unread 1 Sep 2003, 23:28   #1
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love kills

they say people should stop using alcohool and drugs becouse you lose all sense of reality and might harm you and others


well



i tell what makes you lose contact with reality
its love and the desire to have sex

thats what corrupts our society


how many threads on the matter arise here every week? how many people killed over love or something like it? how many became so disconected with reality because they where high on love that made unspeakable actions against others and oneself? how many people were victims of people raised without love?


I dare to say that drugs have a lesser effect on ones mind than love


yes, it varys from person to person, but i think that the statitics are on my side
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remove the gonads of everyone at the age of 14 and keep the gamets. that way mankind is preserved from the horrors of love and sex, and also its able to exist as a species

or


lift sanctions on drug usage




anything other than this is pure hipocrisy

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i think you're just fristrated at not getting enough sex, so want to stop everybody else aswell

you're selfish!!!!
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Re: love kills

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they say people should stop using alcohool and drugs becouse you lose all sense of reality and might harm you and others


well



i tell what makes you lose contact with reality
its sex and the desire to have sex

thats what corrupts our society


how many threads on the matter arise here every week? how many people killed over sex or something like it? how many became so disconected with reality because they where high on sex that made unspeakable actions against others and oneself? how many people were victims of people raised without sex?


I dare to say that drugs have a lesser effect on ones mind than drugs


yes, it varys from person to person, but i think that the statitics are on my side
statistics
i say
remove the gonads of everyone at the age of 14 and keep the gamets. that way mankind is preserved from the horrors of sex and sex, and also its able to exist as a species

or


lift sanctions on drug usage




anything other than this is pure hipocrisy


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really people
detach my speech from myself and try to argue reasonably isntead of attacking my persona
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i think you're just fristrated at not getting enough sex, so want to stop everybody else aswell

you're selfish!!!!
oh god - i didn't read his post properly.

no sex?? NO SEX???

How about mandatory lobotomy on the part of the brain that governs emotion (speciafically related to love)

Sex is directly proportional to my wellbeing. Don't ever take away sex

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has anyone in here read the book the republic by plato?
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oh god - i didn't read his post properly.

no sex?? NO SEX???

How about mandatory lobotomy on the part of the brain that governs emotion (speciafically related to love)

Sex is directly proportional to my wellbeing. Don't ever take away sex

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the gonads make you want to have sex
You said love as well as sex. Do you mean just romantic love?

Can Eunuchs be in love?
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You said love as well as sex. Do you mean just romantic love?

Can Eunuchs be in love?
when i was young i never loved anyone
i just started loving after my gonads were developed

dunno if it just coincide with emotional development
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muslim still hasnt got laid then...
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the republic is efficient and a corner stone in the ruling bussiness up to nowadays


can you remember the dialogue where cefalos says that its great being old, and no longer lust for the desires of the flesh
he said its like to broke free from a mercyless master, a MASTER that can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with, that doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.



the master he was refering to was sex/love
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i am genuinely surprised at that

although i do smell google.
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i am genuinely surprised at that

although i do smell google.
you shouldnt
it is that you underestimate me in every way



no there is no google in this
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'Plato was a faggot'

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karl popper you mean
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Re: love kills

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I dare to say that drugs have a lesser effect on ones mind than drugs



Is that 2nd 'drugs' supposed to read 'love'?
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karl popper you mean
No. Read the subtitle of the book.
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Is that 2nd 'drugs' supposed to read 'love'?
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the republic is efficient and a corner stone in the ruling bussiness up to nowadays


can you remember the dialogue where cefalos says that its great being old, and no longer lust for the desires of the flesh
he said its like to broke free from a mercyless master, a MASTER that can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with, that doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.



the master he was refering to was sex/love
So why not castrate yourself? Or is it too late?
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So why not castrate yourself? Or is it too late?
thats the best you could come up with?


no sense in castrating me when everyone else get keep their gonads
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thats the best you could come up with?


no sense in castrating me when everyone else get keep their gonads
My point is,
why would you want something imposed on everyone in the country when you clearly don't want it for yourself?
do you feel you need everyone else's balls chopped off to be able to feel good about yourself? like you don't want them being macho when you're not
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My point is,
why would you want something imposed on everyone in the country when you clearly don't want it for yourself?
do you feel you need everyone else's balls chopped off to be able to feel good about yourself? like you don't want them being macho when you're not
if this was a large scale operation, where everyone would be compelled to undergo such surgery, Id most certainly agree.

Would you be happy to receive half as much income as you do now, so the entire world would have its income set well over the survival rate, this way ending poverty and a great deal of crime and all the problems that arise from uneven income, including terrorism?


im pretty sure you would, if everyone else in the world who receive a lot of money would receive less
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This is real Meaning of Life stuff right here. You've given a one sided view on love and sex; plenty of people have lots of love and sex and are mature about it. You seem to be describing more adolescent aspects than anything adult (afaik. I wouldn't know). If you don't think teens should do crazy stuff consider all your philosphers who got their passion for philosophy in their teens, or the ambivalence in A Clockwork Orange, or any positive aspects of seemingly negative things.

There could be a link between sex drive and success, for example depressed people have low sex drive. I can't state the the causality here but I wouldn't make the ultimate body modification without being sure it's what I wanted.

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There could be a link between sex drive and success, for example depressed people have low sex drive. I can't state the the causality here but I wouldn't make the ultimate body modification without being sure it's what I wanted.
actually there ws a study done recently, and it appears there is a link. they looked at loads of people from scientists to businessmen to sportsmen, and they pretty much all perform their greatest works before they get to 30 and/or get married, the idea being, that the man shows his suitability as a mate during those years, and then once he is married, he no longer has the drive. This isn't always the case, more a general rule though. Sorry if that is what that links says, I am at work so I didn't look at it.
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the idea being, that the man shows his suitability as a mate during those years, and then once he is married, he no longer has the drive.
I find those evo-psych type explanations a litlte weak at best.

I mean, having a wife (or family) takes up a lot of time, and even the most neglectful father/husband is going to have less time to experiment/whatever after marriage. There's also other explanations about "youthful" brains or somesuch.

Passion is one of the things that makes life worth living. Arbritrarily choosing one thing as the most important thing in life over an other simply because you value it more strikes me as silly. You can point to foolish things done by men with "gonads", and I'll point to the millions of men with gonads who manage to not do foolish things.

Besides : "The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge."
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the analogy with drugs is quite a good one actually, in that its the people who arent emotionally/mentally mature/capable enough to handle it that end up tarnishing the reputation of the whole pursuit.
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