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Unread 22 Apr 2003, 20:20   #1
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What book are you currently reading or would recommend?
I know we've done this before, however not all that recently, so:

I am currently reading Blue Mars, by Kim Stanley Robinson, I've read the previous two novels, Red and Green Mars respectively, over the last week, and highly enjoyed them. This, the third, is no different. An exciting glimpse of a possible future, given that the initial colonisation is perfectly within our grasp right now.

So what are you reading, or what would you recommend?
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Re: What book are you currently reading or would recommend?
Kisscut by Karen Slaughter and The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Sallenger are the previous two books I've read, both are trés ace!
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Lord of The Rings - The full version one.

I really recommend you to buy it as a single book (as it was intended to be published) as this version has more complete Appendixes, Maps and extra stuff that can enlighten any doubts that could appear.
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Den siste revjakta(The last foxhunt, fox(or rev)=slang for hash) by Ingvar Ambjørnsen.
A awesome book, at least in my opinion. Althought, i doubt there are any english versions around, so its kinda pointless for me to recomend it to anybody but norwegians, is it? Anyways, Ingav Ambjørnsen is one of my favorite norwegian writers, his stories are always

Also reading: belgarath the sorcerer by David Eddings. I like eddings, and have read all his books, but its was a long time since i've read anything of him, so i just started to read it when i had nothing better to read or do. Althought eddings is kinda "fantasy light",(Or whatever, his writing migth be considered kinda un-hardcore) i like him and his works!
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A collection of Samuel Johnson's essays, mostly the Rambler, but I wouldn't recommend it as I have only just started it. Last book I read that I really enjoyed was Chomsky's Deterring Democracy which, while starting with more than a hint of hyperbole and rhetoric, ended up being a very good read!








PS As for fiction, and science fiction as you are reading it belgy, have you read David Feintuch, namely the seafort collection? I thought it was brilliant, primarily as it offered a very different view of the future to that which is usually offered.
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I'm currently reading Catch-22 for an english assignment. It's a funny book with a strong message, and I'd recommend it even though I'm yet to finish it.

Aside from Catch-22 I'd recommend Ulysses by James Joyce, that I read recently, or maybe Dorian by Will Self*.

*You will likely need to have read A Portrait of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde (thoroughly recommendable in its own right) to appreciate this fully.
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Currently reading War and Peace by Tolstoy and 'Rogue States' by Naom Chomsky.

War and Peace is actually quite good but takes some 'getting into'. Im more than half way through but put it down abuot 6months ago when i moved to uni and am just picking up the story again. However the messages it conveys about humanity and human nature still apply today.

As for Chomsky. jonny summed it up fairly succinctly. Hes an ace writer but in some regards far to cynical. Ill be trying to get hold of Ayn Rand soon to see what 'he thinks' about 'the world and all that live in it'
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The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman,

A Hugo and Nebula Award winning novel.

A story spanning several centuries, and involving the futility of war, and the hope of peace.

An excellent read, and one I recommend to anyone.
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The Forever War, by Joe Haldeman,

A Hugo and Nebula Award winning novel.

A story spanning several centuries, and involving the futility of war, and the hope of peace.

An excellent read, and one I recommend to anyone.
I can find this book in Fiction or in the Children's Fantasy section correct?
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As for Chomsky. jonny summed it up fairly succinctly. Hes an ace writer but in some regards far to cynical. Ill be trying to get hold of Ayn Rand soon to see what 'he thinks' about 'the world and all that live in it'

That is a typo isn't it heh? You will enjoy rand's views on sex anyways, rape is the good!












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ive red 4 books lately...

- The alcemist (or whatever its called in english) - Paulo Coelho (it was suposed to change my life but i didnt find it that good... )

- Når du er hos meg - Linn Ullmann (only in norwegian yet i guess, found it very good tho)

- Andre steder (other places) - Nicolas frobenius (you should hope he realeses his stuff in other languages as well.. cus he is teh man)

- The summer of Betrayal - Hong Ying (won lots of awards with it, tho i found it kinda ****teh... might be the translation wich is crap)
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Your all the bunch of nerdses!

So clearly I can take your recommendations.

Anyhoo, this past month I read nietzsche's 'genealogy of morals' mill's 'on liberty' and 'utilitarianism' marx' manifesto and 'alienation of labor' locke's '2nd treatise on government' more's 'utopia' voltaire's 'l'ingenu'

mill seems like a reasonable guy
marx comes off as a pop psychologist and demagogue
nietzsche i would like to discuss with someone who has read some of his ****
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more kicks ass.

I'm about to make a 'big order' from amazon so i'm glad belgy started this.
i'm ordering (so far)
Basic Writings of Nietzsche and portable nietzsche
wealth of nations and that keynes book
GEB (hofstadter) on nod's reco
probably a friedman, a hazlitt,
ayn rand's atlas shrugged and fountainhead

and maybe a thing or two from this thread that sounds 'neato'
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Actually you named Voltaire, Locke, Nietzche, More and Mill who are like my top five favourite authors!
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Any of Ian Rankin's Rebus novels. Theyre all "Ace".

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Nietzche is the ****ing man. End of story.

Actually you named Voltaire, Locke, Nietzche, More and Mill who are like my top five favourite authors!
it's worth reading all of them just so you know what they are talking about. the synopsis you'll see of their thought in a history book is usually wrong, and when it isn't it doesn't cover them at all.

okay you then. nietzsche. to start, he's well read.

Am I right in interpreting him to say that hitler (up until he started getting beat) would be the 'ideal person,' in that he took power and conquered, and didn't care at all about human rights etc?

Perhaps Stalin would be better even, because he ruled as long as he lived and killed everyone and everything that opposed him.

By me, I saw him as saying that evil is the way to be.

I'm told that his work was used by the nazis to support their cause, but I didn't really see that (except for the whole jews-are-the-bad thing)
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it's worth reading all of them just so you know what they are talking about. the synopsis you'll see of their thought in a history book is usually wrong, and when it isn't it doesn't cover them at all.

okay you then. nietzsche. to start, he's well read.

Am I right in interpreting him to say that hitler (up until he started getting beat) would be the 'ideal person,' in that he took power and conquered, and didn't care at all about human rights etc?

Perhaps Stalin would be better even, because he ruled as long as he lived and killed everyone and everything that opposed him.

By me, I saw him as saying that evil is the way to be.

I'm told that his work was used by the nazis to support their cause, but I didn't really see that (except for the whole jews-are-the-bad thing)
In reply, read beyond good and evil. Nietzche rejected conventional morality based on any kind of system that lies outside of individual human beings. Nietzche was very much an individualist in the sense that he believed in the concept of the superman, not necessarily the race of supermen. There a huge number of variations in interpretation of to what extent Nietzche did not care about human rights. In my mind he abandoned the base ones resolved with human need and the dull quotidian existence and moved onto a set of values grounded in the ability of each person to become the 'superman'. The Nazis were about as much based on nietzche as plato was.
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I really recommend you to buy it as a single book (as it was intended to be published) as this version has more complete Appendixes, Maps and extra stuff that can enlighten any doubts that could appear.
Not mine. There is a little bit at the beginning about why they haven't included them because they are superfluous and you can understand the story without them, or some such cheapskate nonsense.
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ATM not really reading anything (dont have time as i'm trying to get the coding for my uni final year project finished) but two books ive read in the last month or so are

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The Scar, by China Miéville.

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Yeah was what got me to buy the book (although took me a long time to get round to ordering it off Amazon)
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Also the Dave Gorman book was very funny, I only caught a little bit of the TV show though.
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I just finshed 'Prelude to Foundation' by Isaac Asimov, and now I'm reading 'Foundation'.


I only read them because I got the impression that these books are 'classics that are not to be missed!" and I guess I got the right impression because the books are great.


It's kind of interesting to read sci-fi written in 1950 because of the huge gap in technology we have between then and now. They way one man pictured the far off future in 1950 based on that time's technological level does sometimes make you smile but over all it's not a problem at all, just makes it all the more interesting.


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It's kind of interesting to read sci-fi written in 1950 because of the huge gap in technology we have between then and now. They way one man pictured the far off future in 1950 based on that time's technological level does sometimes make you smile but over all it's not a problem at all, just makes it all the more interesting.
Read Heinlein's Future History series then, you'll like it
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Prelude to Foundation isn't all that great, the Foundation Trilogy are good, Foundation's Edge is slightly worse, Foundation and Earth is shockingly poor and Forward the Foundation doesn't end the series on a high note.
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Prelude to Foundation isn't all that great

I can agree that it isn't as good as Foundation.

Guess I have to read those last books anyway, just to finish it off.






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Choke by (writer of Fight Club) - very funny and is about a sex addict
Stupid White Men by Michael Moore - a must-read for everyone whether you agree with what he says or not.
The Best a Man Can Get by John O'Farrell - Very funny!
Dead Air by Ian Banks - Only read a few chapters so far but is very relevent and a really enjoyable read!

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