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Unread 10 Feb 2003, 20:11   #1
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For all you virgil lovers

How does virgil make the conclusion of his epic (Aenead book 12) such an exciting climax?

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i hate this question its so ****ing **** they should be more specific.

these are the points i thought up to comment on but they all seem so ****

building of characters

personification , similies , other language points

Role of Gods and FAte

Revenge- Pallas

Future of Italy
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so much easier if someone could waffle for me
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It's lit crit ffs, it's not like your reply needs to be specific or even comprehensible.
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Re: For all you virgil lovers

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building of characters - No (that is not the final but a gradual thing throughout the story)

personification , similies , other language points - No (throught the story etc)

Role of Gods and FAte - Doubtful

Revenge- Pallas - Hmmm

Future of Italy - Hmmm

Without having read the book i can't call myself an expert on the subject.

However:

Most books of this length are gonna be exciting for one reason (no matter the content).

As such you should talk about "How all the different strands of the story came together at the end (so it seemed liked there was alot of action with so many things happening at somewhat the same time) and a new twist was introudced (something you hadn't thought about) so you were left thinking of the future actions of the characters too (and a good story allows the readers imagination to work ... a readers imagination can paint a scene better than any description in a book)"

Do as i say etc.
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Is this for English Lit? If so I'm _amazed_ they got you doing classics at AS.

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The Aeneid? Exciting? Pffft

And its not really a climax either. For the past six books you have known he's going to kill Turnus (mainly because its a copy of the Iliad), and at the end Virgil basically says "Aeneas decided not to kill him, but then saw his baldric, and killed him. The End." After loads of other far more impressive death scenes in epic, I'd call that an anticlimax.

Sorry I can't offer any more constructive criticism.
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no its for latin like revision of a possible question that could come up in the virgil paper

heres what i wrote its actually so **** and repetetive it needs so much improving but it only took 15 mins

How does Virgil make the Conclusion of his Epic such an Exciting Climax?



Virgil makes the conclusion of his epic such an exciting climax through use of a variety of different literary techniques including personification, similes, the role of Gods and Fate, tension, the building up of his characters and imagery.

The fate of the world lies on the outcome of the battle between Turnus and Aeneas, which comes to its conclusion at the end of his epic. Aeneas and Turnus are two characters who have been built up over the course of the Aenead, we have seen their roles within society, the dependence of the future on them, their relationships with the Gods and their respect of fate. These two men are seen as great warriors and contenders for power within this region of the world. This battle is seen as the definitive crusade for power as it will shape the course of history and decide which nations will be formed and rise to power and which will in the future be ransacked. Over the course of the Aenead the theme of fate is whittled in and we soon realise that the conclusion of the epic will be this battle for power, thus early on in the book an overwhelming feeling of tension is built up even though we already know the outcome.

The role of the Gods is an important theme in the whole of the Aenead but especially here. Juturna and Juno side with Turnus and try to give him every possible opportunity to prolong his life, Jupiter says

“aut ensem… ereptum redid Turno eat vim crescere victis”

This means: was it right that the sword should be returned to Turnus and strength renewed in the conquered. Juturna and Juno know the outcome of this battle and know of the future yet still they go against Turnus wishes when he says: “absiste morari” – do not delay what must be. This adds an element of the unknown and the listener is left pondering whether the interactions of these Gods could sway the outcome of the battle in Turnus favour. However after Turnus has received a lot of aid Jupiter steps in and denies any further help being given to Turnus in order that fate my run its course.

Fate is one of the most key themes in this epic. The two heroes Turnus and Aeneas have a lot of respect for fate and want to let it run its course. Fate makes the characters behave as they do and has already determined the outcome of the battle. Indeed, we (the audience) know that Aeneas is fated to win the battle this increases tension and also helps better our view of Turnus, since he too knows that he will lose yet he still wishes to try to win, this may seem like stupidity however it shows a great deal of courage and bravery. Turnus’ respect for fate is shown especially well when he asks his sister not to delay what must be, he is willing to face up to his fate even if it means death and that is how he is built up to be seen as a hero. This building up of Turnus character also helps to better our perception of Aeneas as it shows he is willing to face up to the power of a mortal who has the help of the gods.

Throughout the Aenead Virgil’s uses a variety of literary techniques to entertain his audience. He uses personification to help the audience better understand the action, direct speech to break up long narratives, to help us empathise with the characters and to help us define their views of others, imagery to make the narrative more exciting and word placement and emphasis to encapsulate the audience

In conclusion the role of the gods, importance of fate and the building of characters helps to make the ending of the Aenead exciting and tense.
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The Aeneid? Exciting? Pffft

And its not really a climax either. For the past six books you have known he's going to kill Turnus (mainly because its a copy of the Iliad), and at the end Virgil basically says "Aeneas decided not to kill him, but then saw his baldric, and killed him. The End." After loads of other far more impressive death scenes in epic, I'd call that an anticlimax.

Sorry I can't offer any more constructive criticism.
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