Seraphim

[Aaranaf]

Originally posted by Argilus
what you base that on?

talks with numerous HC of yours. one of which who "defected" and the other who i still talk with

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by Aaranaf
talks with numerous HC of yours. one of which who "defected" and the other who i still talk with

who would that defect0r be?

[rshih]

Originally posted by Cooper
u mean u knew i was a spy?

bah!

(Cyanide/Jim)

Cooper

****ing Liar canadian! I knew he was a spy! Remember when you asked if he was still in Sera and I asked if it was cuz he was your spy and you said no. Well who's right now! =p

[Aaranaf]

LOL i asked if he was in seraphim cos he applied to ViruS and i thought he was a seraphim spy! so i asked you cos i figured you'd say :P

lo btw you llama

[Argilus]

Originally posted by Aaranaf
talks with numerous HC of yours. one of which who "defected" and the other who i still talk with

the defector is an error and the one u still talk with i dont care, coz i still talk with virus people aswell... so go on

[isildurx]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
who would that defect0r be?

defectors are the lamest of lame beings.

[PIAC]

true that isildurx, like all the defecters from virus that went into seraphim :P

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by PIAC
true that isildurx, like all the defecters from virus that went into seraphim :P

you hit it on the head Piac...so maybe my return to ViruS wasn't actually 'wrong' Some people call me a ****ing traitor, scumbag, backstabber, etc...but all the original ViruS who went to Seraphim can be called those names too.

I'm back where I belong

[Maddix]

Originally posted by PIAC
true that isildurx, like all the defecters from virus that went into seraphim :P

And in some cases back again 'LO AZUREWRATH!'

*3 Edits for correct spelling of name*

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by Maddix
And in some cases back again 'LO AZUREWRATH!'

*3 Edits for correct spelling of name*

lo Maddix :ninja:

[WipeOut]

Originally posted by Aaranaf
no doubt that it was crowded with spies WipeOut, but we, as in ViruS, didnt really crowd them

Never said that, hope you think I did not imply so. Merely pointing out, that whenever an alliance with some good potential arises (Seraphim, Sapientia, etc.), the established alliances **** their pants so hard that they, rather than welcoming the challenge, choose to destroy the new alliances from within.

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by WipeOut
Never said that, hope you think I did not imply so. Merely pointing out, that whenever an alliance with some good potential arises (Seraphim, Sapientia, etc.), the established alliances **** their pants so hard that they, rather than welcoming the challenge, choose to destroy the new alliances from within.

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Originally posted by Aaranaf
we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim
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I beg to differ, I for myself know for a fact that Seaphim was crowded with spies from the very start.

just look like u implied that alot of the spies were virus

[Maddix]

Originally posted by WipeOut
Merely pointing out, that whenever an alliance with some good potential arises (Seraphim, Sapientia, etc.), the established alliances **** their pants so hard that they, rather than welcoming the challenge, choose to destroy the new alliances from within.

No offense to anyone here, but normally new alliances such as these are too naive to avoid this, be it from lack of experience or just will to do well - a perfect example is SpaceHamsters last round.

[WhiteSnake]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
you hit it on the head Piac...so maybe my return to ViruS wasn't actually 'wrong' Some people call me a ****ing traitor, scumbag, backstabber, etc...but all the original ViruS who went to Seraphim can be called those names too.

I'm back where I belong

hum... a split because a internal struggle isn´t backstabbing... its difference of opinions, and shows you are loyal to your friends and your own ideology

Well... anyway, about YOU, you already know my opinion, I don´t need to keep flaming you here

[Hala]

It showed that certain people couldn't look past their friendships with individual(s) in high positions who had rightly been demoted for the good of the alliance and in the end were loyal not to the alliance, rather they were loyal to one person. Shame really.

[Endor]

seraphim at least was a very decent alliance at the start of round 9.5 with nothing but decent and experienced members

however the membersize decreased cause ppl either quit the game or left us, for whatever reason
it looks like the cause of the surrection of the actual Seraphim alliance, had also caused its little downfall
aka the ViruS quarrel

however a large part of that also falls responsible to the utter boredom pa brings to people when you play it some time have a decent account and decent gal a decent alliance and a decent score
add the parting of some key members/officers to this and you will find a demoralised alliance who has a struggle on keeping her members.

for myself i can say viper was a bit too inactive
however he is a human being with an actual life or something simular to that, and that goes for most people of seraphim (me for example)
so i dont even blame him a little
ladybug set our target at the start of round 9.5:
be a respected and decent alliance, in which fun plays the major role, while having a good memberbase founded on loyalty, not on numbers.
Most of our planets had decent scores. Defence never really has been a problem as far as i know. But i lost interest halfway trough the game. i still managed to be nearly top250


perhaps Seraphim isnt the best of alliances there is, but we have the capability's to play a fun game

for round 10 our situation seems to be insecure atm
but time will tell how we end up

[OXX]

Originally posted by Aaranaf
we didnt have a decent spy in seraphim till PIAC (basically way past their beginning)

besides, due to the way the conflict occured, im sure seraphim had/stlil has plenty of spies within ViruS.

Aranaf is correct, there were spies in virus as there weere in seraphim, to be honest there is no alliancer in pa withouth spies, the only thing that separates Good alliances from the mediocre is the way in which informayion is passed between command and members.

OXX

[hydridia]

spys suck mkay aaranaf cool guy and so was azure.

i was HBC for a time but fell out with viper as many do and left. pretty much left pa after that.

seraphim was actually alot of fun

virus wa salot of fun as well

basically its all fun..so lets have some

[Anakin]

" Pld " to the alliance that attacks its own members.

[cypher]

you need bad experiences/**** stuff to create a decent alliance... so the bad apples are gone...

after that you can get to become a decent alliance...

and peeack... spying is bad:/ *sigh* it's something **** n00bs do as they can't play the game else...

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by WipeOut
Never said that, hope you think I did not imply so. Merely pointing out, that whenever an alliance with some good potential arises (Seraphim, Sapientia, etc.), the established alliances **** their pants so hard that they, rather than welcoming the challenge, choose to destroy the new alliances from within.

Feel the [Fury]

[Scouse]

Originally posted by cyphie
spying is bad:/ *sigh* it's something **** n00bs do as they can't play the game else...

So you're a '**** n00b' then?

[Mikee]

Originally posted by Maddix
No offense to anyone here, but normally new alliances such as these are too naive to avoid this, be it from lack of experience or just will to do well - a perfect example is SpaceHamsters last round.

pld to space hamsters \o/

personally id blame FT and his large mouth, oooooohhh nice example there Maddix