[Declined] scrapping ships

[madman2k30III]

what about if you cud sell your ships for scrap if your a zik? i know there are a few ships atm that i just send out in suicide missions just to get rid of, especially the assassin cos once u stole better ships than that they become obsolete, waste of resourses that no1 wants. this idea cud proberly be implemented by selling the ships to the universe fund for 1/3 of the value of the ships. please tell me wat u think.

[wakey]

Well lets see

- Scrap some fleets
- Value goes down
- XP for your tragets becomes greater
- Your score would increase faster

Its too abusable so is a bad idea.

[Rocko]

errmm,.. personaly (and im terren and we hate to loose any ship) i dont see why u suicide them, wouldnt it be better to keep them for the added value and score u get,.... ? even if it is a little bit, it can add up, and it's extra deffence at home when your out attacking,.. those few ships might very well only kill a couple of ships, but that cud save a few roids.

As for the idea about selling them for scrap,.. that could work,.. or how about upgrades? you spend more reousrces on them, to upgrade them to different ships,..

[WesseH]

im gonna go with the high abuse factor of this idea... or.. concur with Wakey...

say i got 5000 assassins that r "obsolete" in my opinion.. 5000 assassins give a nice bit of value still...

i go out attacking someone of my value size and find myself UNDEFENDED at eta 4

what do i do?

i sell any ship i feel i dont need... and i get a buttload more XP than i would originally have gained from that same target.. added to that.. i all-of-a-sudden got a bunch of resources to fend off any possible retalliations that my assassins dont defend me from...
its a 2-way abusable advantage... and i dont see why this would be for ziks either... if it is implemented it should be implemented for every race...


an option to 'sell the ships u stole' might be applicable though... however it would be an arrangement between you and the person u steal the ships from, u could for example opt to have them pay 50% of the stolen ships value in resources and in exchange they get their ships back (1 tick later)

this option is a lot less likely to be abused since the stolen ships that r sold back to its original owner can not be applied in battle and can not be 'sold quickly to make higher profit from ongoing attacks' either...

however... i must say.. i find the idea repulsive... selling ships just creates to much hassle... and if u dont want ur assassins anymore later on.. then DONT BUILD EM EARLY ON.... lots easier... imho..

[Goafer LX]

i feel that there are a FEW to many ideas for Ziks been thrown around, soon enough they will be ablke t o do ANYTHING
fair enough, nice idea, but if this is too be implemented (which i dont think it should be), why not have it for any race... i mean u could say from a terran point of view, once u have pegasus, why do u need harpies??

[Rocko]

(see thread on upgrading for my thoughts)

[madman2k30III]

i used the zik as a example as i am a zik player at the moment and we know how rubbish the non stealer ships actually are. but here is a few ideas on how it could be implemented for all races.

how to implement it:

1. quote from starter post"this idea cud proberly be implemented by selling the ships to the universe fund for 1/3" or even the gal fund.

2. you lose 50- 75% xp gained from the stolen ships.

3. scrapping credits. i.e every tick u get 20 credits and it costs 25 credits to scrap a ship. so every 5 ticks u can scrap 4 ships. (this value can be adjusted to what seems fairer)

4. donating unwanted ships to the gal fund and getting 10% value back (once u donated to the fund u cant get ships donated to players for 72 ticks)

[Kal]

declined for wakey's reasons