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Nicole · 27 Dec 2003, 04:32

And while we're at it what is Guy Fawkes day?

Kurashima · 27 Dec 2003, 04:36

Guy Fawkes day is the day on which the UK celebrates the capture and execution of Guy Fawkes , who attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament with a large stash of gunpowder. Hence the popular ditty

"Remember Remember , the fifth of November, gunpowder, treason and plot"

Nicole · 27 Dec 2003, 04:40

You have a holiday for the execution of someone? Is it an official holiday where they close school and banks or is it one that nobody really pays attention too, like Arbor day?

Baron Morte · 27 Dec 2003, 04:42

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Originally Posted by Kurashima

Guy Fawkes day is the day on which the UK celebrates the capture and execution of Guy Fawkes , who attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament with a large stash of gunpowder. Hence the popular ditty

"Remember Remember , the fifth of November, gunpowder, treason and plot"

Is a guy named guy in the xvii century the same as someone being named "dude" nowadays?

Dave · 27 Dec 2003, 04:43

Its not an official holiday as such.

Its more of an excuse to burn an effigy of Guy Fawkes, or the currently most publicaly hated person.

Dilly_D · 27 Dec 2003, 04:44

the day after Christmas in Canada and the US...stores want to get rid of that years stock so they run silly cheap sales (generally 40% - 80% off)

Kurashima · 27 Dec 2003, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Dave

Its not an official holiday as such.

Its more of an excuse to burn an effigy of Guy Fawkes, or the currently most publicaly hated person.

Im looking forward to the burning of Tony Blair effigies , again, next year.

Dante Hicks · 27 Dec 2003, 10:45

The killing of Catholics is clearly something that needs to be celebrated in any humane and decent society.

Boxing Day is just St Stephen's Day or something similar. It's a Bank Holiday in the UK, probably just to make Xmas seem like a bigger deal (it'd be even more of an anti-climax if we all had to go back to work the next day). Historically I think the term "boxing" comes from empty boxes which used to be filled for the poor or something equally stupid.

Androme · 27 Dec 2003, 11:06

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the day after Christmas in Canada and the US...stores want to get rid of that years stock so they run silly cheap sales (generally 40% - 80% off)

what's wrong with that? students shouldn't be complaining!

-=Zyth=- · 27 Dec 2003, 11:37

We've even got a day for the death of Ben Disraeli, Britains one and only jewish PM. Its the £1m question on the ps game for millionaire. I got it right \o/

Demon Dave · 27 Dec 2003, 12:08

Boxing Day is traditionaly when people like the postman, milkman and binmen came round with boxes to your door to collect their yearly tip, hence Boxing Day

and Guy Fawkes night is just an excuse for people to let off fireworks for a week, like New Years really

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Dec 2003, 12:34

We burnt a witch on Guy Fawkes

LHC · 27 Dec 2003, 12:49

I thought everyone had Boxing day.

Apothos · 27 Dec 2003, 13:08

Guy Fawkes night is more often than not referred to as "Bonfire Night", and with the rising level of stupidity and ignorance, it is likely a hefty amount of people "celebrating" have never heard of Guy Fawkes, or atleast dont associate him with the night itself.
So perhaps it started off as celebrating the death of a catholic fellow, but i wouldnt say it is the same now.

Androme · 27 Dec 2003, 13:11

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

We burnt a witch on Guy Fawkes

You sound like a schitzophrenic

mbushell · 27 Dec 2003, 13:12

The people near me have no idea who Guy Fawkes was, they just call it 'Bonfire Night' or 'Firework Night' and light fireworks and bonfires anywhere from a month before or a month after. Similarly with halloween, they 'trick or treat' months in advance.

Androme · 27 Dec 2003, 13:16

Comedy "You put on boxing gloves and bash your partner in 3 rounds then bite off their ear in the 3rd like Mike Tyson claiming you were hungry and didn't eat on Xmas day" option.

Dace · 27 Dec 2003, 15:12

Boxing day is when you box up all the crap presents you got and take them back to the shops.

Androme · 27 Dec 2003, 18:38

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Boxing day is when you box up all the crap presents you got and take them back to the shops.

why take them back when you can be seen as generous and pass them onto other people

I gave the woollen jumper some old lady gave me to my next door neighbour and they were well chuffed - now that was priceless

Super · 27 Dec 2003, 19:25

Boxing day is from Victorian times. Christmas was deemed a 'holy day', so presents weren't opened then. They (the "christmas boxes") were opened the next day (boxing day).

I win.

LHC · 27 Dec 2003, 19:32

But you're wrong.

The holiday's roots can be traced to Britain, where Boxing Day is also known as St. Stephen's Day. Reduced to the simplest essence, its origins are found in a long-ago practice of giving cash or durable goods to those of the lower classes. Gifts among equals were exchanged on or before Christmas Day, but beneficences to those less fortunate were bestowed the day after.

Super · 27 Dec 2003, 19:36

I'm not wrong. You're wrong!

Nicole · 27 Dec 2003, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Apothos

Guy Fawkes night is more often than not referred to as "Bonfire Night", and with the rising level of stupidity and ignorance, it is likely a hefty amount of people "celebrating" have never heard of Guy Fawkes, or atleast dont associate him with the night itself.
So perhaps it started off as celebrating the death of a catholic fellow, but i wouldnt say it is the same now.

It sounds a lot like St. Patrick's Day. Do you have a parade too?

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Dec 2003, 20:43

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It sounds a lot like St. Patrick's Day. Do you have a parade too?

It's not really like St Patricks day at all, as far as the two compare in England.

No, we don't have a parade.

It's JUST fireworks and a bonfire, which traditionally has a Guy burned in effigy.

LHC · 27 Dec 2003, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Apothos

Guy Fawkes night is more often than not referred to as "Bonfire Night", and with the rising level of stupidity and ignorance, it is likely a hefty amount of people "celebrating" have never heard of Guy Fawkes, or atleast dont associate him with the night itself.

OH NO! Worst thing that could happen

I mean, why should we enjoy an unimportant celebration, if we can make ourselves less entertained?!

MrL_JaKiri · 27 Dec 2003, 21:36

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OH NO! Worst thing that could happen

I mean, why should we enjoy an unimportant celebration, if we can make ourselves less entertained?!

Celebration without cause is less meaningful; isnt' (say) someone's 21st more important than just a random party?

Apothos · 27 Dec 2003, 21:43

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OH NO! Worst thing that could happen

I mean, why should we enjoy an unimportant celebration, if we can make ourselves less entertained?!

I didnt say there was anythign wrong with celebrating it, did i? No. Infact, i quite enjoy the night. I merely pointed out a few facts.

Intrepid00 · 27 Dec 2003, 21:57

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...how/385345.cms

LHC · 27 Dec 2003, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Apothos

I didnt say there was anythign wrong with celebrating it, did i? No. Infact, i quite enjoy the night. I merely pointed out a few facts.

I assumed the words "stupidity and ignorance" were suggesting that you were angry or annoyed at it.

LHC · 27 Dec 2003, 22:16

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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri

Celebration without cause is less meaningful; isnt' (say) someone's 21st more important than just a random party?

Yeah, sure have a cause.

e.g. Christmas - presents
birthday - presents

This cause is shit though, and people who believe strongly in the cause don't enjoy bonfire night more than people who just enjoy 'explosions yeah!!!'.

Apothos · 27 Dec 2003, 22:19

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I assumed the words "stupidity and ignorance" were suggesting that you were angry or annoyed at it.

Aah, no, i was using those as reasons to why people are forgetting what the night was initially about, why it is now "Bonfire Night". Hence the words "rising levels of". :)