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Unread 1 Dec 2004, 13:38   #1
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The Unwritten Rule

In seminars at Uni, if someone is giving a presentation, and they finish you applaud etc, then the seminar leader asks if anyone has any questions, I always thought and many others like me that you help out youre fellow student and dont ask any awkward or difficult questions, sure an easy one but difficult!!!!

Anyway point is today I gave a presentation, and this twat in my class, asked me a very specific question, luckily I had read past recommended reading and was able to answer it, he then preceded to ask me more questions, while the class stood silent, while I answered. Now its not that he wanted to know the answer, he had to know the answer to ask the question the fact is hes just a spiteful cnut I think.

Anyway who else has the same "Unwriiten rule"?
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Unread 1 Dec 2004, 13:42   #2
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Re: The Unwritten Rule

hell no. I was always the spiteful cnut who used to sit there asking pointed questions.
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Unread 1 Dec 2004, 13:47   #3
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We've always had an agreement to just sit there stare blankly and ask no questions. The only person to ever ask questions is the tutor.

Everyone should now bombard your 'mate' with tough questions .
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Re: The Unwritten Rule

The unwritten, unspoken rule in presentations is that one always ruthlessly exploits the silence of other students to show that one is more informed.

Except I just wrote it down, so now the cat is out of the bag.
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Unread 1 Dec 2004, 14:04   #5
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You turn up for presentations? Jesus.
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In seminars at Uni, if someone is giving a presentation, and they finish you applaud etc, then the seminar leader asks if anyone has any questions, I always thought and many others like me that you help out youre fellow student and dont ask any awkward or difficult questions, sure an easy one but difficult!!!!

Anyway point is today I gave a presentation, and this twat in my class, asked me a very specific question, luckily I had read past recommended reading and was able to answer it, he then preceded to ask me more questions, while the class stood silent, while I answered. Now its not that he wanted to know the answer, he had to know the answer to ask the question the fact is hes just a spiteful cnut I think.

Anyway who else has the same "Unwriiten rule"?
Do you know where he lives ? Go round to his house and crucify his rabbit. It SHOULD get the point across nicely.

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Re: The Unwritten Rule

if i want to know something more i ask questions

at a uni lecture being given by a fellow student in order for him/her to pass a section of the course
i doubt very much i would be interested enough in the topic to ask any questions

arent more self respecting students asleep during such things?
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He sounds like he wanted to show he was intelligent by testing you with more questions. I've seen people like it, it's quite pathetic.
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Unread 1 Dec 2004, 15:27   #9
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He sounds like he wanted to show he was intelligent by testing you with more questions. I've seen people like it, it's quite pathetic.
well hes the know they guy who thinks he knows it all, and sucks up to our lecturer which is a bit pathetic, but what was rather comic was in the Lecture he hung his coat up at the back, a phone went off, the lecturer got pissed off and demanded to know whos phone it was, you guessed it was his...I call it Karma.
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well hes the know they guy who thinks he knows it all, and sucks up to our lecturer which is a bit pathetic, but what was rather comic was in the Lecture he hung his coat up at the back, a phone went off, the lecturer got pissed off and demanded to know whos phone it was, you guessed it was his...I call it Karma.


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Re: The Unwritten Rule

i have only ever asked a question or multiple questions when its someone i know. i make it a point to have a large arguement with anyone i know in seminars.

however i dont know anyone in them anymore :-((((

last year was ace. Kate and i just used to argue non stop about all sorts of stupid shit. it made the seminar pass faster.
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I always ask the exact 1 question the person doing the presentation doesn't know to answer without looking through whatever stuff he brought with him, like when a guy was doing a piece on guns, I asked him what the recommended procedure was when a certain specific gun he was talking about was to jam.

In this case the weapon in question was an AR-15/M16 (version 1) and the only way (that I knew of) would have been to remove the upper part of the weapon, clear the barrel and chamber and cycle the rest of the stuff back into position. He had to look it up in the book he brought :P
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You're really clever.
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It's much easier to have to answer one or two easy questions than just facing silence. I personally like it when people ask questions, it gives me more chance for public speaking. Besides, if someone asks something stupid just say "Shut up, I don't care." That generally get's a giggle.
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It's much easier to have to answer one or two easy questions than just facing silence. I personally like it when people ask questions, it gives me more chance for public speaking. Besides, if someone asks something stupid just say "Shut up, I don't care." That generally get's a giggle.
I dont mind questions either, but not specific questions where they are asked not in the way it can start a debate, but in a way to make the person asking them look better. In this case, easy questions werent fired at me :/ but i still made it through. I remember I was standing there for an hour, by the end of it my legs hurt, the lecturer quite comically came up to me and said "Well done, are going for a ciggarette now?" I replied with thanks, yes so he joined me, a fellow smoker hopefully ore kudos points.
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I always ask the exact 1 question the person doing the presentation doesn't know to answer without looking through whatever stuff he brought with him, like when a guy was doing a piece on guns, I asked him what the recommended procedure was when a certain specific gun he was talking about was to jam.

In this case the weapon in question was an AR-15/M16 (version 1) and the only way (that I knew of) would have been to remove the upper part of the weapon, clear the barrel and chamber and cycle the rest of the stuff back into position. He had to look it up in the book he brought :P
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I did that once in my uni. I rocked with the students. But not with the lecturers.
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Maybe he doesn't like the fact you hang out with arab chicks, tell me is he white, #1 haircut? Wears leather jackets and denim jeans all the time?

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Re: The Unwritten Rule

Last time I did a presentation I had 3 lecturers asking me questions on it
They weren't nice.

One girl in my year did her presentation last year and half the department staff turned up to watch it. They all ended up arguing with each other instead of asking questions about her project. She was a genious though - managed to average 90+% over 3 years. Won all sorts of awards. Bitch.
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Re: The Unwritten Rule

Surely you plant questions?!?? my friends and i almost spent as long planning the questions (and answers) and who'd ask them as we did on the presentation, especially with lecturers who felt compelled to ask if noone else did and especially if they're cnuts who decide to test just how much attention you were paying during the course.
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Surely you plant questions?!?? my friends and i almost spent as long planning the questions (and answers) and who'd ask them as we did on the presentation, especially with lecturers who felt compelled to ask if noone else did and especially if they're cnuts who decide to test just how much attention you were paying during the course.
That's a good idea actually.

We always just sat there blankly obeying the law that since you wouldn't like to get grilled, then dont grill anyone else.

There's always some stupid twat who messes things up though. Always asking questions.

We had one in our class, he always ALWAYS asked questions. Thing was,no-one would have minded if they were smart or coherent, but nope!

He asked lecturers, tutors, lab people, students, passing tourists etc.
Eventually the lecturers we had in 4th year used to just talk over him and not actually listen or answer any of his questions. Quite funny.

My sympathies though. Nail his puppy to this door and see if he asks any qyestions again!
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I always ask the exact 1 question the person doing the presentation doesn't know to answer without looking through whatever stuff he brought with him, like when a guy was doing a piece on guns, I asked him what the recommended procedure was when a certain specific gun he was talking about was to jam.

In this case the weapon in question was an AR-15/M16 (version 1) and the only way (that I knew of) would have been to remove the upper part of the weapon, clear the barrel and chamber and cycle the rest of the stuff back into position. He had to look it up in the book he brought :P
  • Remove magazine
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  • tilt on side and shake and hit until clear
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is all that's required to clear a bloackage in an SA80 *shrug*
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is all that's required to clear a bloackage in an SA80 *shrug*
Shame you have to do it every time before you fire.
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In this case the weapon in question was an AR-15/M16 (version 1) and the only way (that I knew of) would have been to remove the upper part of the weapon, clear the barrel and chamber and cycle the rest of the stuff back into position. He had to look it up in the book he brought :P
That'll come in handy on a daily basis, I bet?!
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I like it how the mean barbs generally aren't even mean, just completely random like it's some sort of Eliza chat program.

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I asked him what the recommended procedure was when a certain specific gun he was talking about was to jam.
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  • Throw flashbang
  • Shoot terrorist with Glock 18
  • Pick up dead terrorists' AK-47
  • Shoot other terrorists

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In seminars at Uni, if someone is giving a presentation, and they finish you applaud etc, then the seminar leader asks if anyone has any questions, I always thought and many others like me that you help out youre fellow student and dont ask any awkward or difficult questions, sure an easy one but difficult!!!!

Anyway point is today I gave a presentation, and this twat in my class, asked me a very specific question, luckily I had read past recommended reading and was able to answer it, he then preceded to ask me more questions, while the class stood silent, while I answered. Now its not that he wanted to know the answer, he had to know the answer to ask the question the fact is hes just a spiteful cnut I think.

Anyway who else has the same "Unwriiten rule"?
Perhaps he's was really interested?
Anyway, what I've learned it's no shame if you can't answer a question during a presentation. You just say "I don't know". Some thing you just can't know.
I don't know what education you're following, but you can't know everything. I worked on projects at school of which I didn't know the details of anymore by the time I gave the presentation (software engineering I did) and if someone asked me specific question about it I couldn't answer I'd just tell them I didn't know and offered them to look it up after the presentation. Being/looking professional is more than only knowing the correct answer. It's also being able to deal with questions you can't answer. Lying or making things up is the WORST thing you can do because it makes you look like a tit when someone corrects you during the presentation. It also affects your credibility.

But to get back to the original question, no, there was no unwritten rule. It was more a sport to ask interesting and difficult in-depth questions. Not to make someone look stupid, but more because there was a genuine interest in the topic.
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Surely the point of asking questions in a seminar is not to quiz your fellow student but to increase your understanding with help from the fellow students and the teacher.

People who ask questions just to belittle other people show they have fundamental personality flaws.

Except in cases where you want to see if the other person comes to a certain conclusion after looking at certain points which you raise. Which kind of fits into the first reason.

As the profits Slitknot stated People are shit.
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Surely the point of asking questions in a seminar is not to quiz your fellow student but to increase your understanding with help from the fellow students and the teacher.

People who ask questions just to belittle other people show they have fundamental personality flaws.

Except in cases where you want to see if the other person comes to a certain conclusion after looking at certain points which you raise. Which kind of fits into the first reason.

As the profits Slipknot stated People = shit.
Fixed unless you did it on purpose...
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He did do it on purpose.

Anyway, as the speaker you have a great amount of power. You can easily ridicule the person asking a question as I mention. Simply hold a vote : "Who thinks that was a stupid question" or something. Most people are willing to be part of an unsympathetic mob.
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Maybe he doesn't like the fact you hang out with arab chicks, tell me is he white, #1 haircut? Wears leather jackets and denim jeans all the time?

Could be on to something here.
you have hit the nail on the head there

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Surely the point of asking questions in a seminar is not to quiz your fellow student but to increase your understanding with help from the fellow students and the teacher.

People who ask questions just to belittle other people show they have fundamental personality flaws.

Except in cases where you want to see if the other person comes to a certain conclusion after looking at certain points which you raise. Which kind of fits into the first reason.
I agree that asking questions is good and it sparks debate, but normally when its a graded presentation, if some1 asks a question which you dont know, then you will be marked down, this guy did it on purpose and like I said earlier in order to ask the question he had to know the answer, which defeats the object really :/ If the seminar leader wanted to ask me fine, its his/hers job too and I will oblige to full effect.
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