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Unread 6 Aug 2004, 18:14   #1
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WARNING : You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards : OFFICIAL

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****ing Corporate America and its ambulance chasing law system.
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How gay. I mean who would really feel hurt on the internet?
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Re: WARNING : You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards : OFFICIAL

Top marks for reading the article.

Galton is sueing Yahoo! because they failed to disclose the full information for the users in question when he subpoenaed them to do so, and because they did not fulfill the advertised promises of protecting users on their service.

It has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on their boards.
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Re: WARNING : You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards : OFFICIAL

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Top marks for reading the article.

Galton is sueing Yahoo! because they failed to disclose the full information for the users in question when he subpoenaed them to do so, and because they did not fulfill the advertised promises of protecting users on their service.

It has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on their boards.
Hes sueing them because they refused to provide details on people who continually defamed them on their message boards. Hence the case, if successful, will allow him to pursue private litigation against said users.

Thanks for playing. Do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the prizes can REALLY change?
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Re: WARNING : You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards : OFFICIAL

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Top marks for reading the article.

Galton is sueing Yahoo! because they failed to disclose the full information for the users in question when he subpoenaed them to do so, and because they did not fulfill the advertised promises of protecting users on their service.

It has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on their boards.
What do I win?
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Unread 6 Aug 2004, 18:47   #6
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Thanks for playing. Do you want to play Double Jeopardy, where the prizes can REALLY change?
Think about it.

He's likely to get settlement from Yahoo because they have made false claims about their service, and obstructed the (usually simple) legal process involved in getting the information he wanted.

He is unlikely to get a settlement from the users themselves due to that pesky Ammendment in the constitution, and the fact that the posts which he claims defamed his character have been deleted.

In any case, whether or not he actually does sue the users, again, has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on the boards.
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Re: WARNING : You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards : OFFICIA

If certain users are defaming the guy, then he's got every right to ask Yahoo to remove it - if they fail to do so, he should be able to sue them - it's no different to a newspaper publishing defamatory articles in reality.

Quote from that article:

"In many countries net firms are granted so-called "common carrier" or "immunity from suit" status that removes their legal responsibility for what their users do online.

However, this legal protection usually evaporates if a company is put on notice about websites or messages that infringe laws but does nothing about them. "

Defamation is more than just abuse, it's statements that can have seriously detrimental effects on ones reputation.
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Unread 6 Aug 2004, 18:50   #8
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In any case, whether or not he actually does sue the users, again, has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on the boards.
Which, by the way, is a response to the thread title: "You can no longer give abuse to people on Yahoo Messageboards"

You can give people abuse but, SHOCK HORROR, you might find there are consequences. Well that's never happened before.
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Think about it.

He's likely to get settlement from Yahoo because they have made false claims about their service, and obstructed the (usually simple) legal process involved in getting the information he wanted.

He is unlikely to get a settlement from the users themselves due to that pesky Ammendment in the constitution, and the fact that the posts which he claims defamed his character have been deleted.

In any case, whether or not he actually does sue the users, again, has nothing to do with what you can or cannot say on the boards.
What hes asking Yahoo to do is essentially enforce their terms and conditions, and if they were to do that, he would be able to get the personal details of the individuals who had posted said comments (im pretty sure the DPA over here might mean its a different story in the UK). Yahoo has 2 options. Accept its guilty and pay cash, or provide details of the individuals (which is unlikely, as your average Yahoo board user doesnt create accounts with their real details) so that Galton can sue them.

Im betting that Yahoo looked at the users in question and recognised all the details were false. Rather than admit this (which im assuming would cause some kind of reputational loss) theyre prepared to fight it out in court saying they did their best, and pay out a small amount to settle.
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Yahoo has 2 options. Accept its guilty and pay cash, or provide details of the individuals (which is unlikely, as your average Yahoo board user doesnt create accounts with their real details) so that Galton can sue them.
He hasn't actually said that he wanted to sue the users. He may be planning to systematically beat them all up.


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Im betting that Yahoo looked at the users in question and recognised all the details were false. Rather than admit this (which im assuming would cause some kind of reputational loss) theyre prepared to fight it out in court saying they did their best, and pay out a small amount to settle.
I think there's a good chance he is counting on them doing that, particularly since he is taking the class action approach.
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He hasn't actually said that he wanted to sue the users. He may be planning to systematically beat them all up.
I think youve watched "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" once too often
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i heard dace really was a peado and sticks his cock in 12 year old girls


dace real name is peter rankin and he lives in glasgow


go get him


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i heard dace really was a peado and sticks his cock in 12 year old girls


dace real name is peter rankin and he lives in glasgow


go get him


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Wait. Does this look like Yahoo to you?

Does "Planetarion" or "General Discussion" translate to "Yahoo Noticeboard" in Dutch.

If not, please come back again and repost your foul trash when theyve rewritten the language.
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I think youve watched "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" once too often
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so what? americans can sue people for having and expressing opinions now? frankly, i'm not surprised. and i won't be surprised when something similar happens over here
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so what? americans can sue people for having and expressing opinions now? frankly, i'm not surprised. and i won't be surprised when something similar happens over here
It depends what the defaming conssts of. If you support libel laws then I'm not sure how you can object to someone sueing based on libellous accusations on an internet message board. However abuse ("Mr X is a ****ing moron blah blah blah") doesnt and shouldnt constitute libel.
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