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Icewar · 14 Dec 2004, 14:19

Welcome at =IRON= Recruiting for Round 13

=IRON= is an old Alliance, which did not exist in the last rounds any longer. Starting from Round 13 (includes Speedgames and beta before) we decided to let this receive again. We, that is a few old members of Iron and a lot of members from Bruderschaft (include the HC). Also we added a lot of members from other Alliances, whose name we don`t want to call here.

We have one public channel for joining us and two for members. Also we have an webside under construction.
Which should bring along you:
which we expect are loyality, cooperation and activity.
We are not interessted on the mass of players seperate at their quality. (interessted on an high AVG Score).
We can promise, we do all that members can say this is an good Alliances with activity.
The last point is, we want a few Payed Accounts.(Freebies accepted as recriuts)
Contact to join: www.iron-alliance.de
IRC Channel for Recruiting: /join #news

Thank you
Ice HC of =IRON=

Other announcement: On Round 11 and 12 we were only a nap beetween 3 Alliances, now we build an own Alliance !!!!

At last we wish all Players and all Alliances a good Round and Fair Play

Mek · 14 Dec 2004, 14:22

you have a lot of galaxies in my cluster....you seem a good solid alliance...

keep up the good work guys

all the best for XIII

Mek

Icewar · 15 Dec 2004, 09:54

Thanks Mek.....It`s a hard work to create this one. But it still works......

Ferretus · 9 Jan 2005, 17:13

Iron is a long running alliance? IRON was a cluster nap in R12 and in R13 an agreement between Bruderschaft, Black Legion and ARS.

IRON was an old alliance but has been gone for a long time. I know that this isn't that old alliance as your IRC room is the one that Bruder/ARS use so this means that Icewar is in fact an ex Bruderschaft player called Ice, who defected to ARS in R11, and later left in R12.

The 30 to 40 members you are talking about were all members of Bruder or ARS so please amend the original post and say that you are the noob alliance that you are.

This is starting to get annoying!

Cervantes · 9 Jan 2005, 17:21

Icewar if you are looking to start a new allience then use a new name, Not one that is currently used as an allience nap otherwise things may get confusing, Also on another note you cannot asume that people currently from ARS and Bruderschaft are going to go for this allience as they may be happy where they are..you are giving out false information.

DonHells · 10 Jan 2005, 01:04

Ferratus

i suggest making a post stateing this so people dont get confused by this moron

hells

Icewar · 11 Jan 2005, 10:52

Ferretus....Your comments are crazy. You know, that we want to build 1 Alliance from the 3 Alliances. In fact we have this 30-40 Members, if u like it or not. Fact is too, it was a nap, but you and all Members know we want to build 1 bigger Alliance. The only one, who can`t accept this are you. IRON is a good old Alliance, i was there and 1 of the HC too. Why we shouldn`t create it under this name ? It is not confusing to say : A good old Alliance. Refreshing it Round 13.
If you have problems, when people want to have an active Alliance (ARS is really inactive), then u have to accept this or do more for your members.

Ice HC of =IRON=

Icewar · 11 Jan 2005, 10:56

Hmmm....i read the =IRON= Side more and more, but i can`t read that we are recriutet from Bruderschaft and ARS.
I know you are a friend of Ferretus and you are from T-o-F. He can`t accept we going, that is the only point.
greets
ICE HC of =IRON=

Icewar · 24 Jan 2005, 12:34

=IRON= has an really good start now. Rank 9 by the speedgame and 3 players under the top 50 and 1 under top 7. Well done mates.

BadBoy · 1 Feb 2005, 13:43

Looks good for me. The webside is great. I will decide if i join or not. You guys do an really good job

BadBoy · 1 Feb 2005, 14:03

I know u Ferretus Maximus. I was at the end of R12 in you galaxy. I talked with a lot of guys about you and your ARS Alliance. The result was: All want to be on 1 Alliance, you are against that. All People said, you do nothing for your Alliance and IRON is on an really good way.
Hopefully u see your mistakes next round.

Ferretus · 1 Feb 2005, 21:34

Perhaps when you have managed a multi gaming alliance with over 100 players for 10 years you will realise too that sometimes, I cant wipe your arse for you!

Gfurztu · 4 Feb 2005, 05:00

We are not trying to build up a multi gaming alliance, we wanna build up a strong alliance, and until now, we are strong.
If someone is unhappy with our name or anything else, who cares?
I`m proud to be in IRON.

Gfurztu BC of =IRON=
____________________

Round 10 Bruderschaft
Round 11 Bruderschaft
Round 12 Bruderschaft
Round 13 =IRON=

themast · 4 Feb 2005, 12:32

Its up to the HC of the alliance that desides what they call themselfs

hells · 4 Feb 2005, 18:05

see you in the new round =IRON=

and leave ARS alone, not everyone is mad for the number one spot, soem people just like to enjoy themselves. its not all about wining, although it would be nice

Gfurztu · 5 Feb 2005, 02:41

We´ll see us, and trust me, we´ll have a lot of fun.

demiGOD · 5 Feb 2005, 07:45

this is a good AD thread ERrr.. just battle it up next round, anger is good, keeps the game interesting.. but the round has to be going on to see the results of that anger.. heh

should be interesting to see you guys bash it up

good luck =Iron= and all the ex-wings and ex-naps and whatnot

Ferretus · 6 Feb 2005, 22:21

lol. I'm hoping that it doesn't come to that, I'm here to enjoy myself. That is what ARS is for, and we have never made a secret of the fact we don't care about winning and we rarely get involved with alliance wars.

With regards to IRON posts I simply need to make sure that ARS doesn't get dragged into some slagging match or be referenced to inappropriately. I wouldn't even have bothered but I got a msg saying that ARS had merged to become IRON. Fortunately I think thats all cleared up now and Icewar has amended/deleted his original posts.

Icewar · 7 Feb 2005, 13:13

Thanks for all this post. We apologize hereby with ARS, if our thread were wrongly interpreted and we wish for you further much success and much luck with R13.

The Speedgame Results for =IRON= were great.
Speedgame #1 Rank 9
Speedgame #2 Rank 7
Thanks to all members for playing.
Visit our webside www.iron-alliance.de

=Empire= · 8 Feb 2005, 05:20

yes Icewar has right lets see whats happend in round 13

good luck to all players

Gfurztu · 10 Feb 2005, 20:41

Good luck specially to ARS and F-Crew, my personal best friends for the next round.

___________________________

Round 10 Bruderschaft
Round 11 Bruderschaft
Round 12 Bruderschaft
Round 13 =IRON=

Mess with the best, die like the rest

=Empire= · 13 Feb 2005, 05:20

hhmmm im happy that i joint =Iron=

hells · 16 Feb 2005, 21:43

gd luck to u aswell

Princessa · 4 Mar 2005, 16:24

Good luck in r.13

Fal · 6 Mar 2005, 13:34

Good luck =IRON= - No offense or anything Ice, but you might want to ask an english member to look over your post before you post it - some of your scentences are a lil dificullt to understand

. Other than that you'll no doubt do well in R13.

Icewar · 11 Mar 2005, 19:14

Thanks...we work hard on communication and we are afraid for the friendship with APA. We have finished now our organization and structures.
Wish you all a good R13. The new shipstats looking really good for an interessting round.

Alessio · 11 Mar 2005, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferretus

Iron is a long running alliance? IRON was a cluster nap in R12 and in R13 an agreement between Bruderschaft, Black Legion and ARS.

IRON was an old alliance but has been gone for a long time. I know that this isn't that old alliance as your IRC room is the one that Bruder/ARS use so this means that Icewar is in fact an ex Bruderschaft player called Ice, who defected to ARS in R11, and later left in R12.

The 30 to 40 members you are talking about were all members of Bruder or ARS so please amend the original post and say that you are the noob alliance that you are.

This is starting to get annoying!

hehehe yeah I made up that name of the Cluster ally.. =IRON=..
cluster 26 - Element 26 was also Iron
and Winnie (HC of =IRON=) was in my gal, ex brudershaft

what a coincidence

Ferretus · 17 Mar 2005, 11:44

LOL, yeah I didn't think Ice had anything to do with it, you were in 26:10 right? I was in gal #4 (I think), quite a good round that one. Plenty of inter Cluster fighting whcih was..er...interesting.

Alessio · 17 Mar 2005, 13:40

26:2

noah02 · 10 Apr 2005, 02:34

good luck Iron

Alessio · 13 Apr 2005, 15:02

erm negrepping me for posting my own r11 coords? Thats kinda pathetic...

Cervantes · 20 Apr 2005, 17:22

Hmm interesting dont think =IRON= seem to be doing that well in round 13

Ferretus · 21 Apr 2005, 21:34

LOL, according to my 'contacts' the HQ seems to be falling apart, they have serious morale problems as members have been mislead regarding to the experience of the alliance and they can't defend themselves. They have had multiple security breaches which has lead to a number of members being booted from the alliance including those in officer positions and there so called war on G.O.A.T. has been laughable to say the least.

Even when I went to their IRC room hardly anyone was there and the people whom I knew and chatted too gave the impression that things were going tits up.

Essentially IRON shouldn't have talked shit, especially as they had no chance of delivering their claims of greatness! But hey, we all knew that lol

Icewar · 22 Apr 2005, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferretus

LOL, according to my 'contacts' the HQ seems to be falling apart, they have serious morale problems as members have been mislead regarding to the experience of the alliance and they can't defend themselves. They have had multiple security breaches which has lead to a number of members being booted from the alliance including those in officer positions and there so called war on G.O.A.T. has been laughable to say the least.

Even when I went to their IRC room hardly anyone was there and the people whom I knew and chatted too gave the impression that things were going tits up.

Essentially IRON shouldn't have talked shit, especially as they had no chance of delivering their claims of greatness! But hey, we all knew that lol

This my last answer to you Ferretus. That is really annoying, your stupid blablabla.

1. The HC of IRON is really active and we have no "apart" situation. The attacks run well and the defenses better from day to day. It´s a long way to fix all problems in the first season. But we go that way and it get better from round to round. ARS exist 12 rounds and u was not able to grow. So why u laugh about IRON ? You are not that person, who should do this. You are only a person, who shot persons from behind.
2. Dunno we have war with G.O.A.T ? The only one who know this are you maybe ?
3. We never see you on our IRC rooms...maybe you were by noname ?
4. Visit us via IRC with your real nick (public channel is #news) or send your spy !!! to our members channel, there are always min. 25 persons there.
5. Only 1 minister has left IRON and that was an PO
6. you can laugh when u want, u can do what u want, but not annoying us any longer please...it`s pointlass to talk with an guy from 12 years maybe ? i thought you are 25 or so, but ...

7. No answer needed

24 Apr 2005, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferretus

LOL, according to my 'contacts' the HQ seems to be falling apart, they have serious morale problems as members have been mislead regarding to the experience of the alliance and they can't defend themselves. They have had multiple security breaches which has lead to a number of members being booted from the alliance including those in officer positions and there so called war on G.O.A.T. has been laughable to say the least.

Even when I went to their IRC room hardly anyone was there and the people whom I knew and chatted too gave the impression that things were going tits up.

Essentially IRON shouldn't have talked shit, especially as they had no chance of delivering their claims of greatness! But hey, we all knew that lol

You know, having read this thread for a while a couple of things strike me about you:

1) You're a very angry person, have you ever considered anger therapy, it may help.
2) You're very good at posting inaccurate information, which is not surprising when you only have "contacts" (to be fair I think you're going to miss what this means, so you may want to get a parent to explain what happens when you put " " around a word)
3) Also this incomming that IRON was under, and unable to cope with..... are you sure about that? Incomming seems slightly lower than what I would have expected with very little going undealt with.

Oh, but I do agree with the war on G.O.A.T, no hang on, wait, something's coming, no, that's it, what war would this be?

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 08:08

Lol.

Latest information reveals that Ice has left as well as Gfurtzu and Winnie. Currently there are 2 relatively inexpereinced players fighting over the IRON command. I can even post here the "official IRON Announcement" if you really want to keep up this charade of pretence that everything is great and IRON are doing well.

Icewar · 28 Apr 2005, 08:40

That`s true. Scorpion, Winnie, Gfurztu and me has left =IRON=. We decide it is better to leave and restart it new. The HC Joschi and Agua are xp players and they will do well for the rest of the round. Maybe you have now what you want, but it was not serious and no gentleman like.

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 10:38

Sensitive information removed - JC

I could post a lot more including the other HC messages resignations, but hey I think I have illustrated the point nicely.

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 10:56

Ice
As to my methods, Spying, diplomacy and co-ords trading is as much a part of this game as anything else.

You slagged me off as well as my alliance with no backup of your statements. Essentially this only got out of hand as ARS and myself wanted no merger with Bruderschaft. Unfortunately, you thought that you were right and wouldn't then just leave peacefully. People have left ARS before and created other alliances and they have left amicably, some have even left to be part of the PA team! You however told various lies and tried poaching members even claiming that ARS had merged with IRON!

If 2 people can destroy your alliance what does that say about how good it is?

I just hope that you have perhaps learned your lesson.

To the rest of the IRON crew. Please accept my sincerest apologies, I will have no further conflict with you as my aggressions were merely directed at the "more vocal" members of IRON whom unfortunately were some of your command. It is unfortunate that some of you were taken out in the process, however I am sure you understand my reasonings.

I am aware that IRON will be undergoing a name change and I wish them good luck in the rebuilding of their alliance.

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icewar

4. Visit us via IRC with your real nick (public channel is #news) or send your spy !!! to our members channel, there are always min. 25 persons there.

Well I'm sitting in your member only room atm with 9 other people. I have been saying random comments in there for about 30 mins now and so far nobody has even noticed I'm there. So please stop lying!

Icewar · 28 Apr 2005, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferretus

Ice
As to my methods, Spying, diplomacy and co-ords trading is as much a part of this game as anything else.

You slagged me off as well as my alliance with no backup of your statements. Essentially this only got out of hand as ARS and myself wanted no merger with Bruderschaft. Unfortunately, you thought that you were right and wouldn't then just leave peacefully. People have left ARS before and created other alliances and they have left amicably, some have even left to be part of the PA team! You however told various lies and tried poaching members even claiming that ARS had merged with IRON!

If 2 people can destroy your alliance what does that say about how good it is?

I just hope that you have perhaps learned your lesson.

To the rest of the IRON crew. Please accept my sincerest apologies, I will have no further conflict with you as my aggressions were merely directed at the "more vocal" members of IRON whom unfortunately were some of your command. It is unfortunate that some of you were taken out in the process, however I am sure you understand my reasonings.

I am aware that IRON will be undergoing a name change and I wish them good luck in the rebuilding of their alliance.

Nice comment Mr. Ferretus. Here is the answer:

1. I know it from beginning, that Tosswink is the spy, but noone from the other HC want to hear that.
2. I have never lied, i left ARS, becouse is was no way to play with XP. The members are to inactive (IRC, defence etc. etc.)
3. I never sayd, ARS merged with IRON. I sayd: on R12 it`s was a nap beetween ARS, Bruderschaft and BL. Now we build an own alliance. Builded from Bruderschaft members with 6 members from ARS. Ok, it was the 6th best ARS members, but that was their decide, not mine.
4. We always ask you to build 1 Alliance, but you don´t want it, becouse u didn´t want to share the might (1HC on an ally is stupid)
5. on the adress from u and tosswink: i know the coords, but before i don´t want an personal attack on you, but now i posted it to all members, they should now all things you did.

goodbye

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 11:19

Oh dear... you still dont have a clue do you. aww bless

As to the 6 ARS members, well you had 2, 3 if you include yourself, 5 if you include my spies. Only one of three of you was any good and they were far from the best. As I understand it the one decent player left IRON due to inactivity anyway.

The best players are still out there and I've kept in touch with most of them. Collectively they have joined Wolfpack, ToF, Coven and LCH. Strange that they chose those alliances over IRON... after all, you had the best 6 members

_Kila_ · 28 Apr 2005, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferretus

The best players are still out there and I've kept in touch with most of them. Collectively they have joined Wolfpack, ToF, Coven and LCH.

Best players?

Quote:

15 Coven 25220 85 556,811 47,328,983

Im sure your players are great. 556k avg score :-/

Ferretus · 28 Apr 2005, 18:28

Just saying where they have gone, no comment on how well they are doing. Wolfpack seem to be doing ok, didnt see you comment on that lol.

29 Apr 2005, 08:41

Iron is dead. The spies (or the old HC) have taken over the private channel and members (the remaining incative ones) are without HC and not very well organized.

The old HC with Icewar leading claimed they left because of the numbers of inactive members. I wonder who let them in? But it only shows HC didn't have the guts to kick them out.

Iron is dead, at least braindead, and it is time to pull the plug. It's all because of HC and not the members. To claim otherwise is just proof of someones inability to lead an alliance.

=Iron=
Born: r13
Died: r13
R.I.P.

-Noddy-
Ex Iron member (and not very proud of it)

hjisking · 29 Apr 2005, 10:30

so i see, i can't get into any of the channels exept the ministry channel. so what has happened exactly after i left IRON, it seems a lot has happened, i was the 1st biggest player to leave, has every other big or exp player followed suite? what is happening to the old HCs n the rest of the members?

if so R.I.P IRON.

Atreides - Former IRON minister

Icewar · 29 Apr 2005, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noddy

Iron is dead. The spies (or the old HC) have taken over the private channel and members (the remaining incative ones) are without HC and not very well organized.

The old HC with Icewar leading claimed they left because of the numbers of inactive members. I wonder who let them in? But it only shows HC didn't have the guts to kick them out.

Iron is dead, at least braindead, and it is time to pull the plug. It's all because of HC and not the members. To claim otherwise is just proof of someones inability to lead an alliance.

=Iron=
Born: r13
Died: r13
R.I.P.

-Noddy-
Ex Iron member (and not very proud of it)

The Ex-HC had nothing to do with leaving Members. We have all joined by other Allys and that alone. I sayed to all, they shouldn`t leave iron, becouse this ally was good, but it is no way to lead it with so much HC`s and inactives.
Further i must say, we didn´t killed the Channels...i´m only banned tosswink out...

Icewar · 29 Apr 2005, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by hjisking

so i see, i can't get into any of the channels exept the ministry channel. so what has happened exactly after i left IRON, it seems a lot has happened, i was the 1st biggest player to leave, has every other big or exp player followed suite? what is happening to the old HCs n the rest of the members?

if so R.I.P IRON.

Atreides - Former IRON minister

Nice to see your comment here Atreides. It´s funny from an guy who was not loyal with us. We payed your account, give u helping hands, an ministry and you grow. As u were big enough you left. In my sence, it is really funny, that u post here.

hjisking · 29 Apr 2005, 18:21

actually you didn;t pay my account, i paid for myself n sparrow. although i don;t deny being in IRON gave me the exp of rd13 and alliances. i hoped i left on good terms. what can you say, i outgrew most of the memebers n was recommended to bigger alliances.

Icewar · 29 Apr 2005, 20:44

agua payed your account man...good terms for an traitor ?