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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 01:43   #251
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Re: Santa Stats

Where is the fun set ? I'm looking at an old crap...
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Half this thread is pointless bickering. Not sure I'd call that 'feedback'.
Lol true true. I got 90% of my feed back /help in pms and sms from people willing to help.

To bad they didn't get picked but thanks to everyone that spent the time helping me. Was appreciated.
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 05:16   #253
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Re: Santa Stats

W

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Why?

I'm seriously disappointed. Appocco? What's wrong with Santa's set? Xan weren't good enough? I don't get it.

The set in game right now is shit.

You're gonna have 30-40% xan 25-35% etd maybe 20% cath and 5-10% terran and zik maybe.....looks like the exact same set that made me not play for 2 years.

Let's take a chance on Santa's set being shit instead of going with a ripe pile of old unloved......you guessed it......shit.

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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 07:21   #254
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Re: Santa Stats

Any chance someone ( not Butcher) could explain what happend? I don't think this process could have gone any better than it did, besides maybe banning someone from this thread so if Appocco scrolls through this thread quickly he doesnt get the impression theres big disagreements about this set.

And I dont think i've seen a better and more fun set in years, with the set maker clearly putting in the work to make sure everything is balanced.
If the end result is still what happend now, then I dont see why people would even bother in future rounds to make a new set or give feedback.
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 11:10   #255
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Re: Santa Stats

Even the people that didn't like Santa's stats think theese are worse...

Santa's had a lot of different options. Some thought xan was good, others liked De, personally I preferred fi. But we would probably have seen a round with lots of different strategies.
Now it will be boring with everyone choosing the same. Two thumbs down
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Re: Santa Stats

With Santa's set I was paying to play, with the Appocco special set, i'll just play for free.
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Re: Santa Stats

Well Santa didn't get the message from Appoco that he wasn't taking new stat submissions. He had already planned to re-run a set because they have in-game effects they are going to be rolling out. So they picked the set that had the greatest equality of race distribution and picked that set. Made a few changes to them and moved on.

Most of this could have been avoided if Santa/BB would have talked to Appoco(who doesn't usually read forums) ahead of time, and instead of bitching about how my stats didn't get picked we move onto the fact that we have a set of stats and a new round ahead of us. And TBH Makhil the game is better off when you aren't trying anyway.
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 13:25   #258
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Re: Santa Stats

This set had the greatest race equality? What changes did they make? Xan got inits lowered and damage increased? Then etd had a similar effect?

I don't give a shit what new thing is being added. It will not be a game changer.....I'm sure. Nononono. It won't, don't argue. Nothing he's doing is going to do shit. Bots? Maybe but then the humans will be all xan and bots will be destroyed. 5 man buddy pack? I'm sure ive seen that before.

Scrap these stats. Run Santa's. Play your little tests on beta. Or make this a free round and allow multiple planets. There's no other way this is going to be a fun round. And I won't do anything but create a planet to get my upgrade/startup bonus perks for later.
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 13:27   #259
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You're gonna have 30-40% xan 25-35% etd maybe 20% cath and 5-10% terran and zik maybe
The top 100 in r52 had the following race distribution:
Ter 22
Cat 18
Xan 18
Zik 22
Etd 20

The top 200:
Ter 35
Cat 38
Xan 46
Zik 45
Etd 36
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 13:28   #260
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Re: Santa Stats

Got a link to original set before "tweaks"
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Unread 10 Oct 2015, 13:29   #261
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Re: Santa Stats

Or top 1000 would be a good indication of race spread
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And TBH Makhil the game is better off when you aren't trying anyway.
TBH your opinion is worth nothing... and even nothing sounds a bit too much.
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TBH your opinion is worth nothing... and even nothing sounds a bit too much.
Well, I started to feel an ounce of respect for Tia from that post until the end when she dissed you just for funsies.
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Re: Santa Stats

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Got a link to original set before "tweaks"
r52: http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=4&round=52
r50: http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=4&round=50

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Or top 1000 would be a good indication of race spread
I disagree. That includes all the newbies who signed up with the default race (Ter), and all the people who don't understand stats and have no one to tell them what to pick. If you want to know what races were strongest, you look in the places where the strongest planets congregate: the top 100-200.
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Got a link to original set before "tweaks"
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Re: Santa Stats

Too slow! You do your avatar justice.
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Re: Santa Stats

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Most of this could have been avoided if Santa/BB would have talked to Appoco(who doesn't usually read forums) ahead of time, and instead of bitching about how my stats didn't get picked we move onto the fact that we have a set of stats and a new round ahead of us. And TBH Makhil the game is better off when you aren't trying anyway.

Who you think gave us server access? Who you think I talked to about sks. You are so full of shit sometimes. No one really cares about the random things you say.

Appoco let me waste my time than. (meaning he knew for the past 3 weeks) He also doesn't realize the time I put into this set compared to the time you put into last round fails. Or the 3 sets you failed before then. I probably spent more time on this set then you did every set you've made. I check over mine 5 times. I spent 2 hours a night for the last week and before that sometimes I would spend 4 or more hours on them.
My stats are balanced

R52 races were politics based. No one can say it will happen again. That silly talk.
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Who you think gave us server access? Who you think I talked to about sks. You are so full of shit sometimes. No one really cares about the random things you say.

Appoco let me waste my time than. (meaning he knew for the past 3 weeks) He also doesn't realize the time I put into this set compared to the time you put into last round fails. Or the 3 sets you failed before then. I probably spent more time on this set then you did every set you've made. I check over mine 5 times. I spent 2 hours a night for the last week and before that sometimes I would spend 4 or more hours on them.
My stats are balanced

R52 races were politics based. No one can say it will happen again. That silly talk.
R52 was indeed very random.
A very offensive set, and its not realy giving anyone the "wibe" thats its gonna be good.
Its how ever been runned 3 times now, if people havnt figured out what kind of a set it is, they havnt been paying attention.

And yes, Appoco considered both the sets that was proposed this round
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Re: Santa Stats

Changes were made to make Cath cr Stronger, and Balance out Some of the rediculous Emp.
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Changes were made to make Cath cr Stronger, and Balance out Some of the rediculous Emp.
Who is doing these changes? These stats are awful. I got members not wanting to play anymore. They sucked r52 and they will be worst now. Every in PA agrees to this.
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Re: Santa Stats

yes but with these stats we can play with flags, so its all worth it.
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Re: Santa Stats

Tia are you editing these stats?
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Re: Santa Stats

These are probably the definition of balanced but boring.

It's quite disappointing after looking at Santa's stats for so long, while they perhaps were not balanced, they'd almost definitely be more fun.
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The set in game right now is shit.

You're gonna have 30-40% xan 25-35% etd maybe 20% cath and 5-10% terran and zik maybe.....looks like the exact same set that made me not play for 2 years.
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christ butcher just shut the **** up
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Re: Santa Stats

Wether the stats are good or not we'll see the upcoming weeks, but atleast the races are nicely spread.
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