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8 Dec 2004, 23:40
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My sister's in her last year at Bristol and she's considering whether to do a Masters or not (Accounting/Business). Considering we aren't very wealthy (although we have a large stake of money in a 1/2 mil house left-over) she wants to know is it worth it dishing her share of the house to apply for masters at the university? She's spoken to her lecturers afaik and they said it would be valuable but in my opinion, how so? A year, costing £20,000 iirc. alone for the masters benefits her how other than an increased chance of earning more upon employment? I've estimated it to be around 10 years before the loss due to the Masters degree is countered and this includes the university loans (which is quite debtrous) she would also have to pay back.
I'm asking this here because I gather there are some matured people on these boards, presumably a few who have done a Masters. I've advised her no and to just merely start job applications for next year. Thoughts?
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8 Dec 2004, 23:48
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Re: Masters
Is this like bachelor/master ?
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8 Dec 2004, 23:50
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Re: Masters
What the hell ? £20,000 ?!? That sounds way off, fees here for full time home students are a little over £3000 here I can't imagine them being that much more in Bristol, unless she needs £17000 in living expenses your figure sounds way off.
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8 Dec 2004, 23:55
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Re: Masters
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Originally Posted by Hicks
What the hell ? £20,000 ?!? That sounds way off, fees here for full time home students are a little over £3000 here I can't imagine them being that much more in Bristol, unless she needs £17000 in living expenses your figure sounds way off.
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Opportunity cost?
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9 Dec 2004, 00:09
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Re: Masters
terrible that you would force her to "dish" her share of the house over educational opportunities
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9 Dec 2004, 00:29
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Re: Masters
A Masters means you get extra initals after your name on letters.
Surely that has to be worth £20,000, right?
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9 Dec 2004, 00:31
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Re: Masters
Better job prospects?
Costs me £3k in tuition fees then £205 per month rent for a year. She wont be needing £20k.
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9 Dec 2004, 00:36
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Re: Masters
Increases your average earnings by 7% iirc.
Each extra level of education adds a small amount - there you go T&F, who says diminishing returns is bollocks?
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9 Dec 2004, 01:02
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Re: Masters
£205 per week rent?
Surely you mean per month, as if I recall correctly Buckinham Palace isn't available for student renting.
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9 Dec 2004, 01:22
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Re: Masters
An MBA would cost more than £20k at a lot of places, an "ordinary" master, simply, wouldn't.
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9 Dec 2004, 01:30
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Re: Masters
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An MBA would cost more than £20k at a lot of places, an "ordinary" master, simply, wouldn't.
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Something tells me you're wrong
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9 Dec 2004, 01:38
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Re: Masters
average price in 2000 was $20k according to your site, which (at the time) would have been about £16k? I don't think £4k is too high to add living costs to that (£75 a week or so?)
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9 Dec 2004, 01:42
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Re: Masters
Those are the 2004 figures.
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9 Dec 2004, 01:50
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Re: Masters
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you are wrong
Masters here at VUB cost 500 EUR for a whole year
MBA is around triple that, which still is nothing compared to the 40k at Insead
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It does say "MBA" on the page i linked to the Top 10 ranking from *shrug*
See where it says "Min Years of Work Experience - 3" does that mean general work experience or high powered buisness stuff?
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9 Dec 2004, 01:55
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Re: Masters
"business" :(
I keep on mis-spelling that word.
One day im gonna mis-spell it on an application form and its gonna cause me grief.
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9 Dec 2004, 01:58
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Re: Masters
The Warwick MBA, (ranked 18th) is £23k, before living costs. I knew INSEAD was about the same, Cambridge is £24k, Imperial is £23k...need I go on? My use of the word "lots" was perhaps misplaced, maybe "the best places" would have been better...
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9 Dec 2004, 02:05
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Re: Masters
Where are you getting this info from SYMM?
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9 Dec 2004, 02:12
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Re: Masters
Flav what link do you follow to get detailed info on a uni like what you had on Insead from topmba.com?
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9 Dec 2004, 10:47
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Re: Masters
The "Fees & Expenses" sections of the respective websites of the unis
http://www.wbs.ac.uk/students/mba/ap...es-funding.cfm
for example
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9 Dec 2004, 10:50
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Re: Masters
say ****ing WHAT? i have a mate doing a masters at oxford, and another who has just finished her's at cambridge and gone onto phd, neither of them paid anywhere near that much
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9 Dec 2004, 11:54
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Re: Masters
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£205 per week rent?
Surely you mean per month, as if I recall correctly Buckinham Palace isn't available for student renting.
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Yep sorry, i meant a month.
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9 Dec 2004, 12:08
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Re: Masters
I'm in the last year of my MPhys with is a 4 year physics degree with the first 2 years being the same as the BSc and then it diverges.
We got told that they created this because of the difficulty in getting funding and expense in doing a MSc after your BSc.
Anyone got figures for how much a PhD affects your salary?
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9 Dec 2004, 13:08
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Re: Masters
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Anyone got figures for how much a PhD affects your salary?
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One of my lecturers said it added £250,000 to your lifetime earnings.
I'm doing a masters course. It cost me nothing more than the previous 3 years.
Even the most expensive degree (they charge foreign students this much) is £14k a year i think. There's no way they'd charge home students that much.
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9 Dec 2004, 13:20
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Re: Masters
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Masters != Masters of Business Administration
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true, but the original question does not specify an MBA, rather just a masters, which is not that expensive.
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9 Dec 2004, 13:43
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Re: Masters
Without quoting it appears as if your response was to my post and not to the original...
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9 Dec 2004, 14:44
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yes, because i assumed that you were replying to the original.
it was partly my fault as i hadnt realised that the thread had actually split into 2 differing discussions
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