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28 Jun 2005, 13:39
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The Make Poverty History advert..
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet they have got a ship load of A list celebs like 'P Diddy', Brad Pitt, Cameron Diaz, Kate Moss all clicking their fingers every 3 seconds to represent a child in the 3rd world dying and then they tell us to make poverty history! Now I'm no expert in the field of celebrity wealth but these people must be worth millions if not hundreds of millions each and it just seems a bit rich for them to be telling us we should be doing something about poverty while they sit on their tanker sized yachts drinking Cristal champagne by the bucket load and bragging to us how many Bentleys they have on each record.
I suppose I'm not really blaming the celebs here I'm sure some have donated their equivalent of pocket change and gave up 30 seconds of their valuable time to click their fingers for the cause but are these the best people to tell us about hardship and poverty in the developing world?
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28 Jun 2005, 13:40
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
They should auction off the celebrities and seize all their assets.
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28 Jun 2005, 13:42
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=trippin
made me think of that page.
I find it highly annoying that rich folk have the cojones to go on tv and go 'help save poor people' when they roll around in money every night before going to bed.
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28 Jun 2005, 13:50
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
My feelings are mixed. The people involved undoubtedly all have the best intentions, but yeah I suppose it is a bit rich ( ).
The thing is, to some of these people 2 hours of their time (or whatever it took to travel to the studio, have make-up done, take ten shots of them saying something stupid and piss-off home) is probably "worth" more than the ten-twenty grand they would likely donate - or more than you or I could donate over two or three years.
I'm not sure of any alternatives. I mean, I could go on telly instead of Kate Moss and ask for fifty quid from the viewers, and do you think a sub-Saharan African ten miles from the nearest TV set could tell the difference between two skinny white people from Croydon (except one has a better arse)? On the other hand, I'd imagine Kate Moss could raise a bit more money than me from the British public.
Ultimately all aid instigated by the "rich" world is going to be patronising as hell. Having some famous folks up there doesn't seem to be substantially different.
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28 Jun 2005, 13:53
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
They've probably given more as a proportion of their wealth and time than any of us ****ers have ever done.
Stop complaining.
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28 Jun 2005, 13:58
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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They probably given more as a proportion of their wealth and time than any of us ****ers have ever done.
Stop complaining.
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Dude, Kate Moss isn't going to sleep with you just because you defend her on GD.
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28 Jun 2005, 13:59
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Dude, Kate Moss isn't going to sleep with you just because you defend her on GD.
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28 Jun 2005, 14:01
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
If it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid
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28 Jun 2005, 14:08
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
There's always corpses, chubby.
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28 Jun 2005, 14:14
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
How about showing Paul Daniels dying every three seconds, in a variety of ways?
They could make it a pay-per view event.
Poverty would be eradicated overnight.
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28 Jun 2005, 14:24
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Hunt a celebrity. Put celebities together on an island like Battle Royale.
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Then they could have Make Celebrities History adverts instead of Make Poverty History adverts.
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28 Jun 2005, 15:34
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
An article in the Times today claims that the artisits performing for Live 8 in London (not all of them, just London) are worth a combined £2,000million (although 40% of this is Paul McCartney).
T&F: If they show a child dying every 3 seconds, people would switch over.
Anyway, Make Poverty History is less about money, and more about lobbying and awareness.
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28 Jun 2005, 16:05
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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T&F: If they show a child dying every 3 seconds, people would switch over.
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Not if it was one of those kids they have on Countdown.
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28 Jun 2005, 16:24
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Not if it was one of those kids they have on Countdown.
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I predict this thread will now turn into a 'Show your Richard Whitely Jokes'.
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28 Jun 2005, 19:08
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
more like Make Economics History
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28 Jun 2005, 19:11
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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You are of course right. Here's a suggestion what if they placed some form of levy on people earning, oh I don't know, over £100K and raised taxes on large corporations who make billions of dollars in profit. What if that levy was then used to employ people from poor countires to build their own infrastructure and provide goods and services to those in need. Come on, who's with me?
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Since the West is rich because of capicalism. the obvious solution to poverty in Africa is to abolish capitalism in the West and then wave a magic wand which is going to cause food and money to rain down from heaven and make everyone happy :) :) :)
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28 Jun 2005, 20:20
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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two skinny white people from Croydon
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That's where I'm expecting to move to in September.
Is that where you live?
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28 Jun 2005, 21:34
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
Vladimir Dracula built a "poor house" then rounded up everyone who claimed to be poor and put them in the "poor house". He then boarded up the doors and windows and burnt the "poor house" to the ground. He then set out to ascertain if anyone else was claiming to be poor. He found that poverty had been eradicated in his province.
Don't you just love a happy ending?
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28 Jun 2005, 22:48
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
Like it or not, these people ARE doing SOMETHING, they are probably donating money aswell.
What have YOU done for the poor of the world?
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28 Jun 2005, 23:05
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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I get sexual gratification from beating other people. I am happy as a result of beating others, you might say. Now, some of my victims are unhappy. They say this is due my sadism, but what the fools don't realise is that sadism is what makes people happy. We need more sadism to increase happiness, not less. If only they understood.
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28 Jun 2005, 23:06
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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That's where I'm expecting to move to in September.
Is that where you live?
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I used to live there, for 20 years or so.
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29 Jun 2005, 11:07
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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That is one heck of a rant.
I even found the time in my day to actually read it all.
I have such a silly existance
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29 Jun 2005, 14:20
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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They should auction off the celebrities and seize all their assets.
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I would like to aquire Cameron Diaz's "assets"
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29 Jun 2005, 14:26
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
You want her TV !?
you sick ****
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29 Jun 2005, 14:28
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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I get sexual gratification from beating other people. I am happy as a result of beating others, you might say. Now, some of my victims are unhappy. They say this is due my sadism, but what the fools don't realise is that sadism is what makes people happy. We need more sadism to increase happiness, not less. If only they understood.
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Best anecdote I've read to date.
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29 Jun 2005, 19:32
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
You are of course right. Here's a suggestion what if they placed some form of levy on people earning, oh I don't know, over £100K and raised taxes on large corporations who make billions of dollars in profit. What if that levy was then used to employ people from poor countires to build their own infrastructure and provide goods and services to those in need. Come on, who's with me?
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Or, they could take all the people living in Europe, the United States and Canada and move them to Africa, while moving all the Africans to Europe and North America. I doubt if it would help much, but it would be an interesting experiment.
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29 Jun 2005, 23:39
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
Your way would probably annoy quite a few of those laid off by those large corporations.
We could use the extra taxes to hire those to sweep roads though.
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30 Jun 2005, 13:15
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
The artists appearing at these Live8 Concerts should pay to appear at them as theyre getting a shit load of free publicity.
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30 Jun 2005, 13:52
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Not if it was one of those kids they have on Countdown.
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30 Jun 2005, 14:04
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
correct.
edit : rather, at the current time it has not, and during the time i've worked here and the hours of 10am to 6pm it hasn't.
But thats not to say it never has.
Maybe it used to be until they realised it was just a load of bored people ****ing around on the internet.
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30 Jun 2005, 14:05
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
shame its rather funny
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30 Jun 2005, 14:15
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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They should auction off the celebrities and seize all their assets.
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hmm i have an idea of seizing all their assets and then putting them all on a battle royal type island where they have to kill each other in a winner takes all contest to keep their moolah. A bit like celebrity love island but with guns, big guns
The tv revenue from that would help pay off thrid world debt as im sure it would be the most watched event of the year, maybe even scraping a few more viewers than Dirty Den getting bitchslapped to death .
I fancy cameron diaz if she starts with the crossbow...
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30 Jun 2005, 14:17
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
Charlie how your Angels get down like that
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ok i confess i read the first post and skipped to the end and posted. But who here hasnt at some point lol
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30 Jun 2005, 15:15
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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hmm i have an idea of seizing all their assets
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You could just wait until they fall down the back of the sofa in a club and your mate threatens to take them if you don't?
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30 Jun 2005, 15:24
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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Like it or not, these people ARE doing SOMETHING, they are probably donating money aswell.
What have YOU done for the poor of the world?
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I've never donated any money to charity or even paid for a Big Issue (because it's a crap read) but I don't go around telling other people to do so either.
My original point was not made to have a go at the celebrities but to try and point to the fact that any one of these people could pay for an African town to eat for years if they had the inclination to do so and to ask if anyone else saw something wrong with these celebs sitting on mountains of wealth whilst telling us all about the hardships of others?
I understand this particular campaign is more to do with eradicating third world debt through political pressure then making donations but I still don't need people with more money then they could ever spend to tell me about poverty.
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30 Jun 2005, 17:02
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
but i like poverty
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30 Jun 2005, 19:38
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Re: The Make Poverty History advert..
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but i like poverty
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What an impovrished attitude.
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