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Unread 29 Sep 2013, 04:29   #1
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R54 stats

Can we please try get them out before sign up, and as fast as possibole?
I think the competetive side of PA is hindered by how its been the last 8 rounds.
Alliances need more time setting up BP strat, BGs, ship strats and such accordingly to the stats
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Re: R54 stats

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Can we please try get them out before sign up, and as fast as possibole?
I think the competetive side of PA is hindered by how its been the last 8 rounds.
Alliances need more time setting up BP strat, BGs, ship strats and such accordingly to the stats
I totally agree alliances need more time would be nice to see stats before sign up.
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Re: R54 stats

some alliances wait till day before round start to do the strat anyway
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Unread 30 Sep 2013, 11:05   #4
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Re: R54 stats

I actually think the longer the alliances have to look at the stat the less rash decisions are made and the more the round is stagnated. The vast amounts of time we had this round even with an appalling set of stats which should have been crazy roiding time has been heavily stagnated. I think that Ships and classes and Int should be shown before tick start and you have to research to see the rest of the stats
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Re: R54 stats

This was tried. It was a disaster.
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Re: R54 stats

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This was tried. It was a disaster.
You are saying the longer we think about it the more we can screw the stats or the more the alliances can screw the round?
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Re: R54 stats

No, I'm saying that keeping the stats secret would be a disaster. Because we did that. And it was a disaster.
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Re: R54 stats

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I actually think the longer the alliances have to look at the stat the less rash decisions are made and the more the round is stagnated. The vast amounts of time we had this round even with an appalling set of stats which should have been crazy roiding time has been heavily stagnated. I think that Ships and classes and Int should be shown before tick start and you have to research to see the rest of the stats
There is basicly no tactics left in PA, the alliances have 2 days to make up their mind on the stats, 2 days to decide what BP strat to go for, 2 days to decide races, to day to decide goverments, 2 days to decide what to Research/build.
The PA crew needs to wake up, or hand the game for someone who is actualy paying attention, and/or have some experince playing the game as a planet holder and a Group leader.
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There is basicly no tactics left in PA, the alliances have 2 days to make up their mind on the stats, 2 days to decide what BP strat to go for, 2 days to decide races, to day to decide goverments, 2 days to decide what to Research/build.
Truly a list of philosophical questions that require weeks of contemplation.
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There is basicly no tactics left in PA, the alliances have 2 days to make up their mind on the stats, 2 days to decide what BP strat to go for, 2 days to decide races, to day to decide goverments, 2 days to decide what to Research/build.
The PA crew needs to wake up, or hand the game for someone who is actualy paying attention, and/or have some experince playing the game as a planet holder and a Group leader.
there never were any tactics in pa it's always been a bottomfeeding game
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there never were any tactics in pa it's always been a bottomfeeding game
Well if there was more tactical sense, the game would be less based around bottom feeding, more or less like R49 were the alliances based their tactics on ship stats instead of just randomly BPing and choosing races.
Top alliances this round would rather keep hitting the alliances bellow instead of their competition.
This gotta stop if we are gonna have a chance of making this game better.
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Well if there was more tactical sense, the game would be less based around bottom feeding, more or less like R49 were the alliances based their tactics on ship stats instead of just randomly BPing and choosing races.
Top alliances this round would rather keep hitting the alliances bellow instead of their competition.
This gotta stop if we are gonna have a chance of making this game better.
bollox
fear of losing value makes players/allys bottomfeed
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fear of losing value makes players/allys bottomfeed
Bottom feeding never pays out in a univers were there actualy is a competition for #1 or People willing to fight for #1.
Ofc this round #1 and #2 allie has napped each other, and rather just keep out of each others way instead of fighting.
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When the #2 fights the #1, they both lose, and the #3 gains. That is why they're napped. They have no incentive to wage war, unless it is wildly one-sided. Which is how wars in PA have always taken place, the examples are too numerous to list. The few exceptions we've seen is when the #3 is far enough behind the #2 to stop being a factor. See round 52 for an example.
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Bottom feeding never pays out in a univers were there actualy is a competition for #1 or People willing to fight for #1.
Ofc this round #1 and #2 allie has napped each other, and rather just keep out of each others way instead of fighting.
double bollox,
nd hit faceless at the end of last rd while in a "war" with other allys

please stop trying to dictate what everyone should or should not do to suit your agenda, your shit at it and with every post it becomes sadder
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double bollox,
nd hit faceless at the end of last rd while in a "war" with other allys

please stop trying to dictate what everyone should or should not do to suit your agenda, your shit at it and with every post it becomes sadder
At the time Faceless had highest average and iirc hadn't partaken in any wars. This was towardsthe end of the round, i can't see how you can compare it to this round.
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