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Unread 6 Sep 2003, 14:29   #1
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Opera 7.20
Change Log[list=1][*]Implemented <marquee>[/list=1]oh yey!!!!!£^£^shgfd./\\./nodrog\/-(%£90twotwothere,

sarcasm aside... this new version is supposed to speed up loading and I think it actually works quite well - as far as I can see there's a new Window -> Loading -> Redraw option that works very well.

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Unread 6 Sep 2003, 19:24   #2
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19:20:59 [zeriod]: bump it
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I cant tell the different between this version of opera and the other
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Change Log[list=1][*]Implemented <marquee>[/list=1]
THEY FKING DID WHAT?!
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Was 'Window --> Closed' there before 7.20?
That's a kinda handy feature.
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do gif animations work properly yet?
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do gif animations work properly yet?
yeh that's another thing they said they've fixed, but the banana always danced ****tly.
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THEY FKING DID WHAT?!
it's almost enough to make me go back to not browing the internet :/
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it's almost enough to make me go back to not browing the internet :/
go to www.structweb.com and look at the right of the page, the shoutbox.
Yes, that's a marqee...
Now go away!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Opera 7.20
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go to www.structweb.com and look at the right of the page, the shoutbox.
Yes, that's a marqee...
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GOOD GOD THATS HIDIOUS
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Oh, and the point is that marqee isn't always bright flashing text that bounces of the screen like a spastic lunatic. It CAN be used for effects that wouldn't be implementable without expensive javascripts (which isn't always supported).
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Opera 7.20
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If I knew where you lived I'd ...


... know where you live.

edit: it aint as bad as geocities alliance sites but I don't think i've ever found a site that puts marquee to a good use.
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marquee is worthless and so is javascript.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Opera 7.20
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go to www.structweb.com and look at the right of the page, the shoutbox.
Yes, that's a marqee...
Now go away!
1. Those scrolling boxes are incredibly annoying, and are not cross-browser compliant. (Hint: a scrollable inline frame is.)

2. The code doesn't even validate as HTML 4.0 Transitional. May want to take a look at it.
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go to www.structweb.com and look at the right of the page, the shoutbox.
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Wow, I'll admit that I was completely wrong about marquee; that certainly improves the readability of the page and doesnt at all distract you when youre trying to concentrate on the static text in the centre.
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1. Those scrolling boxes are incredibly annoying, and are not cross-browser compliant. (Hint: a scrollable inline frame is.)

2. The code doesn't even validate as HTML 4.0 Transitional. May want to take a look at it.
I know...
80% of the errors are due to the & separator in links (which can't be overcome, cause I need those variables passed over)
15% of the errors are due to the [code] formatting. Something about the container not allowing <font> tags
1 error because I inserted a comment before opening the HTML tag (ooo, that's bad)
and a few errors because of the margin on the body (which IS supported by 90% of the browsers and IS valid according to blooberry)
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80% of the errors are due to the & separator in links (which can't be overcome, cause I need those variables passed over)
Use & amp; (without the space) instead. Problem fixed.
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15% of the errors are due to the [code] formatting. Something about the container not allowing <font> tags
Then you are placing <font> tags in places you shouldn't, like for example inside a <pre> tag. Use CSS instead.
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1 error because I inserted a comment before opening the HTML tag (ooo, that's bad)
Comments start with <!-- instead of <!- (at least you're consistently doing this wrong ).
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and a few errors because of the margin on the body (which IS supported by 90% of the browsers and IS valid according to blooberry)
If the W3C says it isn't, then it isn't. Margin should be defined in the CSS, not in the <body> tag.
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Wow, I'll admit that I was completely wrong about marquee; that certainly improves the readability of the page and doesnt at all distract you when youre trying to concentrate on the static text in the centre.
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No seriously, marqee can be handy is used properly (I'm not claiming that I did it properly)
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No seriously, marqee can be handy is used properly
until you find me an example of a marqee used in a proper situation i remain loling at opera.
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No seriously, marqee can be handy is used properly (I'm not claiming that I did it properly)
Anything which moves is highly distracting on web pages.
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