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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 21:39   #1
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R10 Predictions

AD has been dead lately, lets have a non serious thread to lighten things up a bit. Here's the game, guess the top 10 alliances at the end of R10 (PaX, genesis, RX whatever you wanna call it) and see who is closest at the end of the round, it might requre some uppage in the middle to stop it being deleted, but here goes.

I'll start us off

1) Eclipse
2) RaH
3) Dragons
4) VisioN
5) Ely
6) Oly
7) ToT
8) WP
9) ND
10) NoS

if I've missed anyone, I might edit this
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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 21:47   #2
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hmm its a very tough call, and depends mainly Upon the blocks so I'll do 2 lists.

1)Eclipse
2)Elysium
3)ToT/LCH/etc
4)Reduco
5)Dragons
6)Pack
7)FAnG
8)ND
9)Olympians
10)Vision

assuming that Block either splits now before the damage has been done or is killed by a counter block:

1)Dragons
2)Pack
3)Reduco
4)Elysium
5)ToT
6)FAnG
7)Eclipse
8)ND
9)Olympians
10)Vision
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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 21:48   #3
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The problem with prediction threads is that most of the people who actually know anything tend to keep their knowledge to themselves :\
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The problem with prediction threads is that most of the people who actually know anything tend to keep their knowledge to themselves :\
Or people just tend to remember that so-called predictions usually never "finish" the way they were positioned.*

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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 05:13   #6
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granted I really haven't been around much lately and don't really know the political scape.. but those lists just don't jive with history...

Ely's never been able to stand up to anyone succesfully.. Rah (while I love you guys to bits) has never been a top performer and imo never will. They're talented and fun but not a 'winning alliance' imo. Not sure the people in charge neccessarily want that either. Dragons is completely untested as a 'real alliance'. Don't get me started on ToT.. There's just too much to go through w/ all that :-P

I also think you lot underestimate a few of the alliances you put in the lower 5.
Of course all this conjecture is just based on past experience... ah well Guess I'll throw in my uninformed list so you lot can tear it up too..

1)eclipse
2)oly
3)vision
4)Rah
5)Dragons
6)Ely
7)ToT
8)NoS
9)Pack
10)ND
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 06:44   #7
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 09:41   #8
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1) RAH
No #2 to #10? Have you been doing some mass recruitment, enlisting all other alliances?

#1 Dragons
#2 Eclipse
#3 Oly
#4 Ely
#5 Rah
#6 ToT/etc
#7 ND
#8 Rock + TFD
#9 Vision
#10 Nos

Not taking evential blocks/naps etc into account (e.g. utopia )
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 10:31   #9
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Since we got rid of exponential growth, the best alliance will be the one with the most members. This game is not about skill or tactics. Even an 'old PA' player should know that.

I therefor think Eclipse will be #1, they can simply make one alliance of 150 and 1 or 2 others with less members.

RaH lacks members as far as I know and will probably not even make the top 10.

Rock+TFD, might get to the top10 as a block, mainly because of the combined membercount. For the same reason the ToT/LCH/GoCi block will be top 5. And Oly will be bottom top 10.

I'm missing Vengeance here. We were top10 in both beta's. Just observe and be surprised. Ow and IPC will get close to the top 10 too.

My top 10:

1. Eclipse
2. Wolfpack
3. Elysium
4. ToT/LCH/GoCi
5. Dragons
6. Vision
7. Vengeance
8. Rock/TFD
9. IPC
10. Olympians
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 10:37   #10
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Since we got rid of exponential growth, the best alliance will be the one with the most members. This game is not about skill or tactics. Even an 'old PA' player should know that.

I therefor think Eclipse will be #1, they can simply make one alliance of 150 and 1 or 2 others with less members.

RaH lacks members as far as I know and will probably not even make the top 10.

Rock+TFD, might get to the top10 as a block, mainly because of the combined membercount. For the same reason the ToT/LCH/GoCi block will be top 5. And Oly will be bottom top 10.

I'm missing Vengeance here. We were top10 in both beta's. Just observe and be surprised. Ow and IPC will get close to the top 10 too.

My top 10:

1. Eclipse
2. Wolfpack
3. Elysium
4. ToT/LCH/GoCi
5. Dragons
6. Vision
7. Vengeance
8. Rock/TFD
9. IPC
10. Olympians
lol ? U strike me as kinda stupid: If the alliance wiv most members win; then surely that would be Wolfpack ? Eclipse isn't all that big my friend afaik.. (Only talking from last round experience as a Eclipse member though..)
And the fact that LDK (though ppl say they cheated) didnt have most members last round (per say). I didnt see Wolfpack winning that one did I ? Nor did they perform well I'd say.. Why ? Cuz they are a huge bloated pile of ****. So saying skills and/or tactics is out of the game is a load of crap and if u have been around for a while u should know that... LDK managed to fight all of pa at the end of last round wivout takeing too many losses.
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 10:44   #12
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lol ? U strike me as kinda stupid: If the alliance wiv most members win; then surely that would be Wolfpack ? Eclipse isn't all that big my friend afaik.. (Only talking from last round experience as a Eclipse member though..)
And the fact that LDK (though ppl say they cheated) didnt have most members last round (per say). I didnt see Wolfpack winning that one did I ? Nor did they perform well I'd say.. Why ? Cuz they are a huge bloated pile of ****. So saying skills and/or tactics is out of the game is a load of crap and if u have been around for a while u should know that... LDK managed to fight all of pa at the end of last round wivout takeing too many losses.
Have you even seen PAX so far ?
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1. ND
2. hirr
3. TFD
4. Rock
5. IPC
6. ETY (even when they don't exist anymore !)
the rest is random
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 12:10   #14
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as i can't be to realistic this is it:

1. VisioN
2. Dragons
3. RaH
4. Eclipse
5. Wolfpack
6. Elysium
7. ND
8. ToT
9. Olympians
10.NoS
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Unread 10 Sep 2003, 12:18   #15
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RaH lacks members as far as I know and will probably not even make the top 10.

We do?
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Have you even seen PAX so far ?
I've seen enuff of it to know that WP cant win.. They wouldn't even win if they were the only alliance to compete. So my guess that it will take atleast sum skill/tactic/organization to win will come true im sure..

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I've seen enuff of it to know that WP cant win.. They wouldn't even win if they were the only alliance to compete. So my guess it will take sum skill atleast will come true im sure..

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1) Elysium
2) Wolfpack
3) Vision
4) Eclipse
5) Dragons
6) ToT
7) RaH
8) Oly
9) ROCK-TFD

...

edit: if everyone goes solo... so it wont happen..
new list

1)Ely
2)Ecl
3)Tot/[]LCH[]

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my top 10

1)LDK
2)LDK BOT ARMY #1
3)LDK BOT ARMY #3
4)LDK BOT ARMY #99
5)LDK BOT ARMY #124
6)LDK BOT ARMY #3453535
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Going wildly out on a limb here....

The winning alliance will be completely new.

It will start as a local travel time based group of mostly newbies who don't carry all the baggage of old-PA tactics, and will fill quickly up to 150 players in a small 'local area' of the game.

They will have very high scores, but mostly be too small in value for any of the 'name' alliances to hit them.
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Going wildly out on a limb here....

The winning alliance will be completely new.

It will start as a local travel time based group of mostly newbies who don't carry all the baggage of old-PA tactics, and will fill quickly up to 150 players in a small 'local area' of the game.

They will have very high scores, but mostly be too small in value for any of the 'name' alliances to hit them.
Erm....... the Travel time thing doesnt exist at present outside spinners mind that is.
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Well Spinner is not keeping the travel time system to be installed a secret for nothing. Strange things might happen.
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I've seen enuff of it to know that WP cant win.. They wouldn't even win if they were the only alliance to compete. So my guess that it will take atleast sum skill/tactic/organization to win will come true im sure..

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4.Olympians not sure about order bout top 4
5. ToT/[]LCH[]
6. RaH
7. VisioN
8. ND
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from what I heard playing in the beta, the traveltime system was implemented, but the universe was too small to take any effect :P
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from what I heard playing in the beta, the traveltime system was implemented, but the universe was too small to take any effect :P
I hate to break it to you, but there arent exactly that many players in PA as a whole, thus even if the Travel time was implemented the differences would be neglible
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Going wildly out on a limb here....

The winning alliance will be completely new.

It will start as a local travel time based group of mostly newbies who don't carry all the baggage of old-PA tactics, and will fill quickly up to 150 players in a small 'local area' of the game.

They will have very high scores, but mostly be too small in value for any of the 'name' alliances to hit them.
I'd like to meet a few of these newbies.
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why don't you point out exactly what it is I need to get a clue about? Instead of trying to discredit me, you make a fool of yourself by not backing up your statements.

if you want me to qualify my statement about ely, I will, though I thought history is quite obvious on that one...

round 5 you were eaten up after riding along a certain alliance's coattails

round 6 same thing. you had top galaxies but ultimately lost them because of your inability to maintain them.

round 7 you were trounced.

round 8 you were invisible.

round 9 was basicly a repeat of round 5 and 6 for you.

Plain and simple, you've been unable to finish. period.
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If you read my posts, I invite criticism. If you can correct me, feel free. I welcome it. I will be more educated and a better person for knowing the 'truth'. If a one liner is all you can come up with, that really shows what kind of talent ely has doesn't it
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To me it seems each post made under the nick SpazMonster is a different person, as the thread of thought is broken in each (not to mention the elegance). Which one should I address the reply to, to make it understandable?

I'll save myself the effort and rather redirect you to read the Elysium history when it's available for Monsters like yourself.
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To me it seems each post made under the nick SpazMonster is a different person, as the thread of thought is broken in each (not to mention the elegance). Which one should I address the reply to, to make it understandable?

I'll save myself the effort and rather redirect you to read the Elysium history when it's available for Monsters like yourself.
And that is how you avoid answering a question. Good show. I'll take it from your 3 unsuccessful tries to respond credibly to a quite openly worded statement as your inability to address it. Thanks for wasting my time.
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And that is how you avoid answering a question. Good show. I'll take it from your 3 unsuccessful tries to respond credibly to a quite openly worded statement as your inability to address it. Thanks for wasting my time.
But, but, but Ely are great!!! Oh wait now you'll ask me why....hmmm...longest surviving alliance thats not actually achieved anything? Does that count as an achievement in itself?
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Nice to see there is no pressure on us to do well.... we may suprise some of you guys

Edit: Not the fact that we will be #1, but the fact that we might make the top 10 at all.
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Does anyone care with 1600+ people in the game??
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Where did you all get the idea that the travel time system is being implemented ? It's not been tested because it doesn't exist not because it's some huge secret.
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Where did you all get the idea that the travel time system is being implemented ? It's not been tested because it doesn't exist not because it's some huge secret.

Exactly. And if they were going to implement it they'd have put it into the beta long ago, as it is a major part of gameplay.

To suddenly put it into the "real" game just before the round, at the last minute without testing, would be stupid.

Looks like it ain't going to happen. So we have no C/P pols, and no Area Pols. What a dull round in terms of politics
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Where did you all get the idea that the travel time system is being implemented ? It's not been tested because it doesn't exist not because it's some huge secret.
So no cluster, no parallel and no regions with shorter ETA's Why are there still a GC and ministers, only for the galfund and modding the galforums?
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Where did you all get the idea that the travel time system is being implemented ? It's not been tested because it doesn't exist not because it's some huge secret.
I would suggest making sure prior to replying that you're posting on the right forums, quoting the right person and have an understanding what the discussion is all about.

If you do not follow the above procedure, then you could make these very mistakes and make an evil jester of yourself, as you have done above. More sharpness adviced for your future posts.
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I would suggest making sure prior to replying that you're posting on the right forums, quoting the right person and have an understanding what the discussion is all about.

If you do not follow the above procedure, then you could make these very mistakes and make an evil jester of yourself, as you have done above. More sharpness adviced for your future posts.
I originally quoted you just to point out what an idiot you are before moving onto talking about something more interesting like travel times. Everyone else who has replied has managed to grasp this without too much effort I'm sure it won't be that much trouble for you. To be honest I don’t really care about some Elysium peons argument is for why his under achieving pathetic little alliance is really good nor do I really want to read anything from you again so save yourself some time and instead of writing some witty retort to my post go back to pretending your important in your little tin pot alliance. Idiot.

Now this may be hard for some of you to comprehend but I'm now going to talk about another post all in the same post which means I don't have to post 152390582 times. Since when has game play been a major aspect of Planetarion, no one has ever played for the game play, game play wise it's bankrupt it always has been and so is PaX now that you have to pay for the game there are just so many better games I would rather spend my money on, the only thing that has kept me and many others here is the alliance politics. If you have no politics you have no fun.
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You seem to get quite upset for being wrong over the Internet, Hicks. It must be embarassing for someone like yourself whom puts effort into (seemingly sound) rambling on these silly boards by the usual sub-par standards of belittling others and/or their accomplishments using angry verbiage and resorting to inelegant name calling. Unfortunately others before you were better at this, likely better than you ever will and trying to be a copy-cat of former AD trashtalkers just doesn't seem all that to be aspired for.

This thread (notes to topic) has largely served its purpose, as the latest posts have little to do with the thread itself (how very like AD). Traveltimes exciting ? This game must have reached an all-time low, if that is the case.
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I would suggest making sure prior to replying that you're posting on the right forums, quoting the right person and have an understanding what the discussion is all about.

If you do not follow the above procedure, then you could make these very mistakes and make an evil jester of yourself, as you have done above. More sharpness adviced for your future posts.
You yourself do not exactly make yourself look intelligent. Deven put forward some reasonable comments with a little information to back up his opinions. You simply say he "needs to get a clue" without giving any counter arguements at all.

I'm sure if you would care to explain why it is your opinion that his opinion is not accurate then it would allow the discussion to continue on its intended course for at least a little while longer.

Now with that said I'm off to accuse Hicks of being a flaming poof. Why you ask? Dunno, I got no evidence or argument to back it up, but seems like it might wind him up. You seem to know about that kinda stuff already tho
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