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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 19:59   #1
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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 20:06   #2
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o heard a guy in his early seventies is being sued also

then he said that he hasnt done anything, and blamed his grandsons, that would visit him, etc etc

the bugger grassed/snitched his own grandsons

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Since when is an artist's music "The RIAA's product"?
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How is it not? What are you trying to say?
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How is it not? What are you trying to say?
That the RIAA should fk off.
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That the RIAA should fk off.
You would like almost the entire record industry to fk off? Or you'd just like to stop them from associating?
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You would like almost the entire record industry to fk off? Or you'd just like to stop them from associating?
They need to stop associating.
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Someone should send her a copy of the US Constitution.
You mean the part where it says ignorance is not an excuse?

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The mother said she signed up for KaZaA, paying a $29.95 fee. "If you're paying for it, you're not stealing it, so what is this all about?" she asked.
HAHAHAHAHA, this lady was caught to the == of shoplifting and being caught by a private security guard. She is screwed. Her only hope is to play stupid, beg forgivness and agree to let the RIAA throughly erase her harddrive ( I am thinking scrap metal magnet crane method) and melt her CD collections.

I guess if anything, this is teaching people not to be niave and blindly click yes on the EULA. Never know, someone could slip in that you agree to transfer ownership of your soul.
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I guess if anything, this is teaching people not to be niave and blindly click yes on the EULA. Never know, someone could slip in that you agree to transfer ownership of your soul.
What's this got to do with EULAs?
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What's this got to do with EULAs?
There's prolly something in the UELA saying "Sharman networks is cannot be held responsible for illegal activities conducted with this software.... bla bla... this software is not intended for illegal practices and stuff like that.... etc etc... <insert more long drivel about legal stuff that no one reads but accepts to when clicking the yes button>"

So, the "I pay so it's legal"-stuff won't hold up in court. That's where the EULA comes in.

RIAA should learn that witch hunting doesn't up their recordsales.
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RIAA should learn that witch hunting doesn't up their recordsales.
Yeah, how about putting out good music instead of filling a CD with 75% crap and charging $20+
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They could have fooled me!
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They could have fooled me!
I am sure a lot of out of court settlements will be made with Non-Disclosure agreements.
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I am sure a lot of out of court settlements will be made with Non-Disclosure agreements.
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There are one of two things this is going to do when eventually one of the people they sew has the money to go to the supreame court (with so many their bound to hit a lawyer).

A) RIAA will win and people will be scared into submission, BUT record sales still will not increase because its crap thats hurting sales overall.

B) RIAA will be found of guilty of spying on people. Yet I feel this is unlikley since they use the evidence they get for sopeans by see what you share online.
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There's prolly something in the UELA saying "Sharman networks is cannot be held responsible for illegal activities conducted with this software.... bla bla... this software is not intended for illegal practices and stuff like that.... etc etc... <insert more long drivel about legal stuff that no one reads but accepts to when clicking the yes button>"

So, the "I pay so it's legal"-stuff won't hold up in court. That's where the EULA comes in.

RIAA should learn that witch hunting doesn't up their recordsales.
Ah I get it, when people say EULA they mean disclaimers. I don't see what the soul transfership thing is about though.
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Unread 9 Sep 2003, 22:05   #27
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how exactly does the RIAA spy on you? and why dont people just use ftp? or what about that bittorrent thing?
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how exactly does the RIAA spy on you? and why dont people just use ftp? or what about that bittorrent thing?
They use P2P services to find people who share music, get their IP and subpoena their ISP for personal details. Then unpack the lawyers.
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Ah I get it, when people say EULA they mean disclaimers. I don't see what the soul transfership thing is about though.
EULA: Electronic User Level Agreement... so the disclaimers, yes.

Technically, you can put anything in this EULA you want, as long as it's in line with the law. Say, "by accepting this EULA we have the right to do anything with your soul we wish" or more recent, by Microsoft with Messenger "MS holds the right to upgrade this software at any time and ask a fee for it" (or something along those lines). If somone accepts this the company that wrote the EULA can do whatever is put into it. Be it transferring someones soul (if that is legal) or holding the right to transfer a sum of money each month. The point is that you allowed them to do so.

I have the feeling that companies make those EULA's so lenghty so they can slip in something like Microsoft did with messenger.
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EULA: Electronic User Level Agreement... so the disclaimers, yes.
Much as I'm sure that the judiciary are a tool of the bourgeoisie, I very much doubt any of those more outrageous EULA's would hold up in (most) court(s).
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o heard a guy in his early seventies is being sued also

then he said that he hasnt done anything, and blamed his grandsons, that would visit him, etc etc

the bugger grassed/snitched his own grandsons

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interesting defence: "it wasn't me, and I cannot prove who downloaded it since numerous people use this computer" sounds like the people in the UK who get off paying speeding fines because the police don't know who is in the car.
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interesting defence: "it wasn't me, and I cannot prove who downloaded it since numerous people use this computer" sounds like the people in the UK who get off paying speeding fines because the police don't know who is in the car.
so, surely all those pppl in uni's in america who are getting sued should learn from this!
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You mean the part where it says ignorance is not an excuse?
No, the Fourth Amendment.
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