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14 Oct 2003, 18:52
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Konkari
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Finland
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about rollback
<quote><snip>...The rollback will be to a time well before the crash happened...<snip></quote>
WHAT THE F?????????
it should be exactly the tick the crash happened or 1 tick before at most....
and rolling back more than 12 ticks for 2 lost ticks is insane (no one should have lost their fleet because of that unless they are simply stupid)
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14 Oct 2003, 18:58
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I see you!
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: about rollback
I take it you captured a lot of roids then? :P
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14 Oct 2003, 19:01
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Roidhumper
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Netherlands
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Re: about rollback
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<quote><snip>...The rollback will be to a time well before the crash happened...<snip></quote>
WHAT THE F?????????
it should be exactly the tick the crash happened or 1 tick before at most....
and rolling back more than 12 ticks for 2 lost ticks is insane (no one should have lost their fleet because of that unless they are simply stupid)
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I guess I'm stupid then... besides we didnt lose ticks. The problem is they kept running while we couldnt login.
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14 Oct 2003, 19:12
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: about rollback
What about those who will loose roids/ships due to the rollback? 
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14 Oct 2003, 19:53
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ostensibly Obscure oddity
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Out there...somewhere...
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Re: about rollback
This will seriously hamper my 800 tick plan...
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14 Oct 2003, 20:13
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Rah's def wh0re
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Humpering Maddix for defence
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by Killerbij
I guess I'm stupid then... besides we didnt lose ticks. The problem is they kept running while we couldnt login.
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And people werent able 2 log, and recall there attacks or run there fleets
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Originally Posted by _o0o_
This will seriously hamper my 800 tick plan...
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14 Oct 2003, 21:03
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Konkari
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Finland
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Re: about rollback
so rollback was done to pt 737 while it should have been done to pt 739, all ships were returned home (why?) and we aren't starting at 8am as was said 1h ago, we're starting 23:00gmt... so there's really nothing that we can trust anymore? and those 1 million resources for everyone... have you lost your last grip of the game pa-crew? this will unbalance the game radically.. thank you for ruining my day.
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Due to this mornings downtime, the powers that be intervened and turned back time. We are now prety much where we were at 04:30 this morning (GMT), and the ticker is stopped.
All fleets have been recalled and transported back home safely.
1.000.000 of each resource has been donated to everyone as compensation.
Ticks will resume at 23:00 GMT
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14 Oct 2003, 21:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: about rollback
I have no clue why they rolled back so far. It is stupid to roll back 24 hours, that is why they had to recall all the fleets, because they rolled it back so far. What should have been done was to roll back to right before the crash and frozen the ticker for a couple of hours. That way it allows people with rl commitments to have a chance to get back and do something they might of had to do b4 the crash, like run/recall fleets...
The 1 mil resources is stupid, I would rather have the resources I made in those 12 ticks they deleted, not to mention have my roids I got back. Anyways, they screwed this one up big time, and we are powerless to do anything but flame away and let them continue ignoring the people that provide their paychecks...
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14 Oct 2003, 21:27
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Lemming
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Re: about rollback
No Rollback: people whinge
Rollback: people whinge
Kinda a Catch 22, no?
To my knowledge since r7 it has been standard practice to recall all fleets when a rollback is done. As for the resources, I am guessing that they are mainly a help to the smaller planets. I don't think that it will unbalance anything. After all, everybody got them, or am I mistaken?
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14 Oct 2003, 21:34
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Klaatu barada nikto
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Re: about rollback
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I have no clue why they rolled back so far. It is stupid to roll back 24 hours, that is why they had to recall all the fleets, because they rolled it back so far. What should have been done was to roll back to right before the crash and frozen the ticker for a couple of hours. That way it allows people with rl commitments to have a chance to get back and do something they might of had to do b4 the crash, like run/recall fleets...
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I assume they don't do full backups every tick, so perhaps they can't rollback to arbitrary ticks. I'm sure someone will correct me if that's no longer the case (and assuming those who know ever see this).
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The 1 mil resources is stupid, I would rather have the resources I made in those 12 ticks they deleted, not to mention have my roids I got back. Anyways, they screwed this one up big time, and we are powerless to do anything but flame away and let them continue ignoring the people that provide their paychecks...
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Well, rollbacks are a bitch. There's just no way to do 'em that isn't unfair to someone. About the best you can hope for is they spread the unfairness around so that nobody gets too much of it. :/
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14 Oct 2003, 21:46
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by Zzz
To my knowledge since r7 it has been standard practice to recall all fleets when a rollback is done. As for the resources, I am guessing that they are mainly a help to the smaller planets. I don't think that it will unbalance anything. After all, everybody got them, or am I mistaken?
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It'll annoy the people you don't want to annoy (the larger players, in the elite alliances).
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14 Oct 2003, 22:43
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part time ghost
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Grimsby
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Re: about rollback
actually i think they didnt start sending fleets home after rollbacks until last round.
i dont even recall this downtime. guess i slept through it. and i find it annoying even though i lost quite a few structures in an attack this morning (i think my attacker didnt appreciate losing lots of Bs...)
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14 Oct 2003, 23:57
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Lemming
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
It'll annoy the people you don't want to annoy (the larger players, in the elite alliances).
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I wouldn't mind annoying them tbh.
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15 Oct 2003, 00:27
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lowly ensign
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 66
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Re: about rollback
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All fleets have been recalled and transported back home safely.
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They show up at home under "missions" but can't change them under "fleets" grrrr
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Ships Base Fleet 1 (out) Fleet 2 (out) Fleet 3 (out)
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And now i got to go get those 200+ roids again.Least I won't get the retal if he saw his news 
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15 Oct 2003, 00:58
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by Zzz
I wouldn't mind annoying them tbh.
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So you want to annoy the main, the core, the VITAL playerbase?
Businessman+++
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15 Oct 2003, 01:13
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Canadian to the Core
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Canada
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Re: about rollback
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They show up at home under "missions" but can't change them under "fleets" grrrr
And now i got to go get those 200+ roids again.Least I won't get the retal if he saw his news |
Exactly the same as mine ...
Spinner is my fleet gonna come home!?!?!?!?!
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15 Oct 2003, 01:22
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Thats Mr Death to you...
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Belgium
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Re: about rollback
Yeah, crash the server, pheck up the rollback, what will be next...?
I'd REALY like my fleet back NOW!!!
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15 Oct 2003, 01:50
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Das Scoot
Join Date: May 2001
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by MrL_JaKiri
So you want to annoy the main, the core, the VITAL playerbase?
Businessman+++
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I don't understand...what's not to like about 1 mil resources?
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15 Oct 2003, 03:12
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lowly ensign
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: about rollback
Tthat's what not to like.
Only playing for number of roids i can get.
Score and value are no sense to me
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15 Oct 2003, 04:59
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Re: about rollback
/me wants his fleet back 
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15 Oct 2003, 05:55
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Re: about rollback
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Originally Posted by eki
<quote><snip>...The rollback will be to a time well before the crash happened...<snip></quote>
WHAT THE F?????????
it should be exactly the tick the crash happened or 1 tick before at most....
and rolling back more than 12 ticks for 2 lost ticks is insane (no one should have lost their fleet because of that unless they are simply stupid)
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Another reason why pe0ns shouldn't be allowed on the boards.
/me slaps XtotheZ
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15 Oct 2003, 07:19
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Re: about rollback
server crash is bad, rollback is bad
by adding 2 bad things you don't make a good one.
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15 Oct 2003, 08:56
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Gubbish
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: #FoW
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Re: about rollback
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I don't understand...what's not to like about 1 mil resources?
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If this were a role playing game, nothing, nothing at all.
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15 Oct 2003, 09:07
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Re: about rollback
I do recall Spinner stating (after a round with a few rollbacks) that from that point onward there would NEVER be another rollback. He told everyone in advance so it was fair to everyone. That way the playfield is level so to say.
Since when did pa start changing its agreements without informin the playerbase ? ooo thats right...
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15 Oct 2003, 09:19
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Old, Tired & Retired
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: The Low Lands
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Re: about rollback
Fleet is still stuck out there.....this suxors big time
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15 Oct 2003, 10:08
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Konkari
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Finland
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Re: about rollback
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Another reason why pe0ns shouldn't be allowed on the boards.
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If you want to mock me, come say it straight to my face.
<edit> and tell me why i shouldn't be able to take part in a discussion with no whatsoever concern in any alliances? </edit>
Well anyway, I believe we deserve better customer support, we've paid for this game and the service we get in a situation like this is very weak... nothing's happened yet... and it has been 10 hours since the ticks started...
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15 Oct 2003, 10:20
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The Twilight of the Gods
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: about rollback
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Another reason why pe0ns shouldn't be allowed on the boards.
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If only the quote button said
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15 Oct 2003, 13:04
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Aria's TeddyBear :p
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Re: about rollback
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I take it you captured a lot of roids then? :P
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that wouldn't even matter since all fleets were recalled. So even if it was only rolled back 1 or 2 ticks, he still wouldn't get his roids.
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15 Oct 2003, 13:46
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Sheep
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: IRC
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Re: about rollback
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I do recall Spinner stating (after a round with a few rollbacks) that from that point onward there would NEVER be another rollback. He told everyone in advance so it was fair to everyone. That way the playfield is level so to say
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He also said that there will ALWAYS be tickstops whenever server goes down.
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15 Oct 2003, 14:13
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
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Re: about rollback
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I don't understand...what's not to like about 1 mil resources?
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The biggest planets don't like it because it's equal for all. It gives the smaller planets a better chance to fight them off. ofc they don't like it.
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17 Oct 2003, 03:35
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: about rollback
I dont Like the Rollback lets just lkeep moving forward
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