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Unread 14 Dec 2005, 22:34   #1
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this it not evolution but a revolution

hiho boys and girls,

After a lot of **** , we the tof command have reformed the alliance once and still known as Tides of Fire. One of our old hc felt it was time for a change and appointed his own staff, afterworths they kindly demoted us and took over ToF ingame. Then they went to Pa-Team and asked to change the name to evolution, wich Pa-team did even after i expressed my feelings towards it but seeing that an hc was still in power, t hey never saw the problem with it. Then most of the members saw what was happening and left that abonemation and were able to rejoin ToF straight away thx to a helpfull Pa-team. Imho Evolution command wanted a new allaince, but instead of building one from 0 they hostily took over an existing one and raped it to the bone. But now its time to rejoice coz we are back =D.

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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

all i can say is: word
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

Damn right!
Have fun in eVolution, maybe you can play some cards with the three of you!

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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

Well, I think I speak for everyone when I say that we're all glad that things have ultimatly worked out ok.


And look on the bright side. ToF's comparative failure this round as opposed to last round mirrors Vengeance's failure in Round 13. We had to choose who to say goodbye to - although being inactive sods, they did most of it for us. You guys automatically have a fresh start and now know who is loyal to ToF. Use it wisely.
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

Question of the day...

will ToF regain their position? Will G-II lose its rank 15?

only time will tell...

p.s. Usually when revolts end in failure, the original leadership becomes even stronger and is able to regain even more popularity and support for their members. Meaning... we may see a strengthening and new loyalty in ToF unlike ever before
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

we have still some ppl to return so we might gain a rank =)

and yes this has been a valuable lesson and we will use it wisely
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and yes this has been a valuable lesson and we will use it wisely
This will be a nice competition

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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

crazy my head head is spinning,
like a whirlpool baby its never ending

seriously i just returned from a night out, my two flatrmates are having two batches of consensual sex through the walls on either side and my gf is in inverness till jan 12th...

THIS IS NOT WORTHY OF AD MATERIAL FFS!
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crazy my head head is spinning,
like a whirlpool baby its never ending

seriously i just returned from a night out, my two flatrmates are having two batches of consensual sex through the walls on either side and my gf is in inverness till jan 12th...

THIS IS NOT WORTHY OF AD MATERIAL FFS!
So in your opinion what happens to an alliance that isn't ND, 1up, LCH , eXil or Angels is not worthy of AD material? there are other people playing pa that enjoy the game that aren't in any of those alliances...

So I'll think i'll go have some sex now, and if you behave maybe i'll let you watch so you can get rid of some of the frustrations that are obviously troubling you
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So in your opinion what happens to an alliance that isn't ND, 1up, LCH , eXil or Angels is not worthy of AD material? there are other people playing pa that enjoy the game that aren't in any of those alliances...

So I'll think i'll go have some sex now, and if you behave maybe i'll let you watch so you can get rid of some of the frustrations that are obviously troubling you

Maybe it is worthy of AD material but not a new thread. Ffs use the other thread you guys created yesterday to moan about your in house fall out.






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heh gl ToF, good to see ure already way ahead of eVolution, who to be honest have shot themselves in the foot and ****ed up royaly, to which i say, in my best impression of nelson from the simpsons "haha!"

p.s anyone else notice the eXilition-eVolution similarity and wonder if the eVo guys should be called ego instead??
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that other thread is about evolution, this is about tof =) 2 different things
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my aplogies, GL ToF and welcome back
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heh gl ToF, good to see ure already way ahead of eVolution, who to be honest have shot themselves in the foot and ****ed up royaly, to which i say, in my best impression of nelson from the simpsons "haha!"

p.s anyone else notive the eXilition-eVolution similarity and wonder if the eVo guys should be called ego instead??
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i think thats perfectly understandable thank you very much
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lets open an AD for top alliances and one for the n00bs.

this is just too boring

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lets open an AD for top alliances and one for the n00bs.

this is just too boring

haha

hey, in ur sig it sais hydra ... ?didnt u guys fail like everything u tried ... .?
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hey, in ur sig it sais hydra ... ?didnt u guys fail like everything u tried ... .?
define fail nub, and like thx for taking the bait.

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Good stuff ToF, at least you have a more solid member base now.
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define fail nub, and like thx for taking the bait.

same goes to all others
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not accomplishing ur goals ? giving up ? taking the easy way out ?
Our goals have pretty much been accomplished cept 1 round.

We have never given up. We r atm fighting with exi for #1

Taking the easy way out, as in merging in a shit summer round? yes. Would have done it again rather than just keep going for no purpose. -hint hint-

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id rather be on my own without a purpose than having to merge in a decent ally to accomplish something ...
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ToF surprised everyone last round with its great performance, but nevertheless you guys impress me even more now with the lub and community feeling you have.

Have the upmost respect for you, and I'm sorry to hear what has happened, hopefully we'll see a much stronger and united ToF once again in r16.

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Continue the good work, and good luck, you'll be better off without those noobs anyway
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not accomplishing ur goals ? giving up ? taking the easy way out ?

Sorrry, some things are just for the better.
Think you'd be amazed by the player skills that lyes within Hydra, I know its reasons for things going as they did, and it most certainly has my understaning..

This was in no way what they did, nor do I believe its Hydra we're discussing.
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ToF surprised everyone last round with its great performance, but nevertheless you guys impress me even more now with the lub and community feeling you have.

Have the upmost respect for you, and I'm sorry to hear what has happened, hopefully we'll see a much stronger and united ToF once again in r16.

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Continue the good work, and good luck, you'll be better off without those noobs anyway
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

Ahhh Ive not posted in months, but thought it a good topic to give my congrats. Member loyalty goes a long way make the best of it and continue to build.

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GL ToF, I am really happy that you went through it and GL for the rest of the round.
Oh and ToF is more than a community - those ToF players i remember just own
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then maybe we're a community of owning people
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13 Tides of Fire 31169 47 2,132,500 100,227,501

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so much for an ally of hardcore gamers, lol. Our avg score is higher than theirs, as well as our total and our rank. You all know we are gonna finish top 10 this round
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lets open an AD for top alliances and one for the n00bs.

this is just too boring

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Yh lets do that, it gives u some where to speak then
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

Tbh, this kind of thing is a but weird to happen. Some HC decides its time for a chnage and simply demotes the rest and promotes some1 else. I understand that inalliance politics should be free for the alliance to choose how to go about it. However, this situation clearly demonstrates how fragile an alliance is when it comes to trusting the HC on duty.

For instance, i am a HC of an alliance (not LCH, but a fiction alliance) and i am pissed about not gettng defense, and i don't like the other HC. Or i hear the news im about to be demoted. A lot of other things you can think of yourself , i bet

So i simply demote everyone and then im in absolute power. I can kick, demote, promote, and accept any1 ingame. Voila, revolution, chaos. I am uberHC. No1 can touch me. All the members of the alliance are fooked. Sure, every can leave and reform, but that will leave everyone unprotected. and basicly, dead (because the vultures are alwyas on the lookout for allianceless planets).

Maybe it's time for some way to prevent this. Just an idea, but maybe somethng like the exile voting in a galaxy? Both for promotions and demotions?

And for the record: the ones who are responsible for this revolution should probably consider leaving PA, their reputation isn't what it used to be.....
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

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lets open an AD for top alliances and one for the n00bs.

this is just too boring

haha
Problem is the 'n00b' part would be crowded, and the AD as we know it atm would be largely abandoned
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Maybe it's time for some way to prevent this. Just an idea, but maybe somethng like the exile voting in a galaxy? Both for promotions and demotions?
There will be a public thread on the PAN alliances stuff up soon, and one of the features is along thoose lines.
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Problem is the 'n00b' part would be crowded, and the AD as we know it atm would be largely abandoned
so true.

The avg skill level when I came back to PA last round was rather shit tbh.

Nothing like it used to be.

MY opinion.!
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Re: this it not evolution but a revolution

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Maybe it's time for some way to prevent this. Just an idea, but maybe somethng like the exile voting in a galaxy? Both for promotions and demotions?.
i suggested that to the pa team aswell, make 1 person sole owner of an alliance or 2, or make it so that u need 2 votes to demote or appoint extra hc after appointing 2 when u create the alliance

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Good luck to you ToF! All the best
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