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Unread 17 Oct 2007, 02:19   #34
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Re: New-Race

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Originally Posted by Makhil
No, this would mean having 1 attack fleet to take roids and 1 attack fleet to raid a planet (resources and population).
Just from my experience with Cargoships in R3, generally speaking the capture of resources is not as significant when compared to asteroids.

In the past, Cargoes used to raid resources as they moved from your asteroids to your planet, thus denying resource income from the battle tick. Also recall, in R3, there were up to three battle ticks, whereas now there is only one. I imagine that players will be hard pressed to attack planets large enough (thus, having enough roids) to capture enough resources to eliminate the opportunity cost for capturing asteroids.

If you make it such that Cargoes raid stockpiled resources, then with the current production system encouraging players to "hide" their "stash" in production (even before launch), but also being able to immediately cancel an order and thus only loosing a tiny fraction (by making the due ticks overly large, which is certain to mean less loss than just letting yourself be raided by cargoes), then this doesnt "solve" the problem either.

Finally, history with ship stats would suggest that just because a race has a pod fleet, doesnt actually make it good. Consider Cathaar for most rounds prior to this one; they had a CR and a CO fleet, yet Cath CO fleets were exceptionally rare (generally because they were significantly inferior to CR fleets). Imagine being forced to only have the one pod fleet and this fleet being "shit" - with the only other alternative being to capture resources that dont actually exist. It would essentially root the race. Further, if you made this fleet automatically overpowered to compensate for the lack of choice, you get other problems with other races, and/or the amount/proportion of universal defence to that class of attacking fleet (given its OP nature) which might end up rooting the race anyway.


Thus, i dont mind having the presense of cargoes - despite the fact that having something for them to steal is a bit iffy. But definately not as a replacement to a normal pod fleet; as a supplementary fleet (like SKs are to the others) would go down fine, imo.
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