Thread: Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito... all were needed.
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Unread 31 Dec 2006, 14:02   #15
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Re: Saddam, Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito... all were needed.
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Originally Posted by Structural Integrity
I don't understand what you mean. Should dictators/tyrants not influence our view of good and evil?
There can be no "good" without a definition of "evil".
Why setting the definition of 'evil' so high such a good thing. 'Oh it doesn't matter that we killed 150,000 people in Iraq because Saddam Hussein killed even more people.'

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What do you think? Would it be better if people like Hitler and the like would not have existed?
this a question that can't be answered because to do so would ignore the impact they still have on international politics today. It is quite possible that without the holocaust the state of Israel would never have been created and the Middle East might be (slightly) less chaotic.

the end does not justify the means.

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Or would it be better if our norm of "good" would be more towards what is "evil" for us now? Or should "good" be more "good"?
What?

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Is it good that just over 6 billion people walk this earth? Would it be better if it were 10 billion and those poor sods in all those wars would not have died because "evil" in its current form did not exist?
End does not justify the means. If those people were alive then resources would expire far earlier. It could be argued that this would then bring about a revolutionary state of discontent.

there is no justification for mass-murder.

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Would it be better if all people of all countries and religions got along just fine and we could all happilly sing songs around a big campfire?
What?

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You should clarify why you believe that the influence of tyranny as a symbol of evil on our social system is a "bad" thing.
How about because it helps to mask the tyranny we face every day from our own economic and political system whose repressive and murderous actions can be carried out because the other people are 'evil'.
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