Thread: R80 stats
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Unread 21 Nov 2018, 00:39   #9
Falran
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Re: R80 stats

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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
Massively imbalanced is a bit much eh.
Terran and Cathaar is slightly overpicked, wich left Xan FI massively underpowered.
How ever, the top100 is more or less in sync with the what races has been.
Zik/ETD/Cath has the same amount of top100 planets as you would expect based on the amount of planets in total.

Maybe Xan wouldve had more top planets if politics was different from the start, or if most had changed from xan fi to xan fr when they saw the race spred.




These stats how ever are very balanced when it comes to what we want in a round when it comes to holding roids, attacking, defending and XPing.
This is why these stats should be ran another round with some small modifications.
I think the basic class layout and amount of targets per class and to other classes in general is okay; but, certain things really didn't end up making sense and lead to Ter/Cat being especially over picked, which of course exacerbated some of the problems for xan that you alluded to with their Fi being very suboptimal.

1.) Ter/Cat efficiencies are too high, particularly on the larger ship classes.
The theme of terran having high A/C makes sense, but the pegasus is a bit too high for shooting before all non-emp fi. Wyvern is in a similar boat.

Cat CR are also hugely in this boat. They have some of the best A/C I've ever seen. They EMP & Flak way too strongly combined with Zik CR. This teamup is super oppressive, especially since CAT was over picked and can do nothing to stop CR (the widow is a joke with this race breakdown, not enough FR to do anything against CR or BS cause of Mantis). So some tweaks to A/C (and probably D/C) to these ships and the ones they interact with would be a good start.

I'd also change the targeting on Mantis to FR/CR, and make the Wraith shoot DE. This would make BS teamups have more symmetry with what CR teamups already do. Since etd would get extra CR emp, probably swap targetting on Scarab or otherwise rework somehow.

Also, the spectre just doesn't make sense and should be reconsidered entirely.

Those are my impressions of places to look for changes anyways, after having sorted hundreds and hundreds of def calls and bcalcs this round.

I'd also like to see constructions revisited. Amps at 60% more CUs than distorters forces most of the uni into distorters, especially with cathaar's terrible building speed. This favors races with heavier ships (basically everyone except Xan) as it lets them project far more power (value/fleet) than xan, especially when xan had two core non-cloaked ships.

Last edited by Falran; 21 Nov 2018 at 01:24. Reason: More data
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