Thread: Stats for r60
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Unread 10 Dec 2014, 00:50   #63
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Re: Stats for r60

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Originally Posted by BloodyButcher View Post
Well yeah, its intetional.
But does it affect the dynamics of the stats that much?
I can't really answer that since I don't think I have enough experience with stats in general but trying anyway;

For ETD FR to be viable as an attack fleet I believe it needs to stop the DE hole.. And in order to do that it needs FR ships from another race.
So how/where to get them?

Possibilities:

a) covop

This is going to be a long and slow process..
And the question remains if you'll be able to get enough FR based anti-DE ships that way

b) stealing

Needs a good DE fleet.
But a potential problem:
  • TER has 3 ships that fire before the ETD DE (FR, CR, BS)
  • Xan has 2 ships that fire before the ETD DE (FI, FR)
  • Zik for a pure attack fleet this doesn't look worth the trouble since the only FR based anti-DE ship of Zik is a steal ship.. It could still be worthwhile to expand the DE fleet with DE ships of other races but I did not check how viable that is.

So in order for ETD FR to be successful you would need a good ETD DE fleet and/or a Cat DE teamup.
But if you have a good ETD DE attack fleet and/or team secured then why bother with building the FR attack fleet?

c) teaming

Basing what follows solely on the initiative...
I know there is more to it but just using it as a starting point..
  • Ter+Etd FR: Landing on:
    • Ter: now land-able, a solo Ter FR or a solo Etd FR fleet is outinitted by Ter ships, the teamed fleet has the better init
    • Cat: EMPed
    • Xan: no help, Pulsar has the better init
    • Zik: a solo Ter FR fleet can land it, a solo Etd FR fleet can not. So with the teamup it becomes possible for Etd FR to land it
    • Etd: a solo Ter fleet can land but will be EMPed, a solo Etd FR fleet will be killed. So with the teamup it becomes possible for Etd FR to land it (still EMPed tho)
  • Xan+Etd FR: Landing on:
    • Ter: now land-able, a solo Xan FR or a solo Etd FR fleet is outinitted by Ter ships, the teamed fleet has the better init
    • Cat: EMPed
    • Xan: a solo Xan FR fleet can land it, a solo Etd FR fleet can not. So with the teamup it becomes possible for Etd FR to land it
    • Zik: no help, Corsair remains with the better init
    • Etd: a solo Xan fleet can land but will be EMPed, a solo Etd FR fleet will be killed. So with the teamup it becomes possible for Etd FR to land it (still EMPed tho)
  • Zik+Etd FR: Landing on:
    • Ter: no help, Ter remains with the better init
    • Cat: EMPed
    • Xan: no help, Xan remains with the better init
    • Zik: no help, Zik remains with the better init
    • Etd: a solo Zik fleet can land but will be EMPed, a solo Etd FR fleet will be killed. So with the teamup it becomes possible for Etd FR to land it (still EMPed tho)


And just repeating what I said at the top: I don't really have enough experience with stats so the above may or may not make sense..
If it doesn't make sense then feel free to ignore it.
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