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Re: 654,965 Dead Iraqis Later

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Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
Its a crime by any sane definition, even the UN charter.

Its against humans, lots of them. Thus the "broad" label crime against humanity seems to fit.

The motives of the insurgents are fairly clear, they want the US army to leave their country. The insurgency is responsible for grave crimes, however given that firstly they actually have a right to be in their own country and secondly that they are responding to US aggression that is neither here nor there when talking about America's crimes.

If the tables were turned and there were Iraqi troops occupying the United States having bombed all the major cities and killed many American citizens and tortured others, and a US citizen took action to kill those Americans co-operating with the Iraqi forces, would you as a US citizen honestly be carping about their crimes against humanity or would you support them in principle?
First off, the insurgents are made up not only of iraqis, but of a large number of people from other arab states who have come for a ruck with US forces at the expense of innocent Iraqi civilians. So some of the insurgents are at best as bad as the US/UK, who lets get it straight have behaved ****ing shamefully.

As for the ones who are Iraqi, depends what they define as cooperation. If cooperation is just trying to get on with your life or shopping at a market then they haven't got a leg to stand on. From where i'm standing they are just as much out for turf as the US/UK were initially and are just as bad.

Yeah, we're at fault, we caused it, but for me that doesn't give them any excuses for what they're doing or even saying it's 'understandable' because quite honestly I think they are ****ing mental.
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