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Re: Alternate shipstats

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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk View Post
Fi: I don't think Phoenix is the ship to improve, to be honest. With Ter already fairly strong, I'd be more inclined to improve other races' anti-Fi. I'm looking at Vindicator, and maybe Thief.
The revenant now does ok vs xan fi. Mostly cause of a change to make etd stronger (see point below)

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De: The fortiness of De had crossed my mind at some point, but I'd forgotten it by the time I wrote my post. You're right, I think Ter De is fine, and Ranger is already pretty efficient, even against notorious anti-EMP fleets like Ter Bs. However, Co and Fr are in a good spot right now, neither too weak nor too strong. Improving Etd De by making it stronger against those Co and/or Fr doesn't solve the problem, just moves it. Not really sure what to do.
I made etd a bit stronger by having the revenant fire t2 on de. does alot less dmg now vs etd, while doing the same dmg to ter. should make it more playable.

downside is that the change to the revenant forced me to redo fi/co ac/dc. fi seems to do alot of dmg now, but so do the anti fi ships. should even out, just looks messy

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Cr/Bs: Bomber doesn't exist, I assume you mean Spectre? Both Xan fleets build it, so there'll be quite a bit of it around. I think part of the problem with Ter Bs is mostly in its defensive strength, as they naturally tend towards building the forty De ships for defense. I figure the strength of Ter Bs is closely tied to the weakness of Cr. And since both those fleets use good init against De and bad init against Bs, teamups can't save Cr. This is perhaps the only place where I'd be inclined to change inits, allowing the Zik fleet to do well against Bs (using a good init kill ship, ensuring they don't steal into Bs) and Etd against De (using their EMP ship).
this change wasn't as simple as i had expected. i managed to turn around the cr targetting. but was foced to change the spectre to a bs ship to not mess up the balance between zik & xan

hope the changes improve the set. it feels a bit better balanced to me than before
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