[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Light

I just find the two completly different.

I don't (considering this is what your argument amounts to on the first topic I could just stop here but I'll go on.

Donating to a someone inside your galaxy at startup does not require you to actually play the game nor does it require any real effort. Its not really co-ordination its simply getting someone to signup to donate to you, then they can happily quit and you can do what you like. Also donation doesnt require any real time or 'skill' either and so shouldnt be a factor, I do dislike the end week due to the way attacking/defending works but i much prefer that to someone winning via donations.

Actually this did require some co-ordination as they all had to be online at the same tick in order to donate. Obviously this is less than the co-ordination/effort required to def-whore someone but then again that is less than the effort required to play a "normal" planet. You're just drawing your arbitrary line in a particular place because it's the more conventional/traditional one and it's the one you're used to having.

Attacking or defending at the end for a dedicated goal while isnt ideal it still requires them to of played the round and be online at the right times to defend. They cant simply donate when they're online, for it to work they have to come online and send there fleets accordingly which takes alot more effort. While i would like the #1 planet to be a planet that has got there by there own merits its impossible as either alliance, galaxy or friends come into it as the last week is highly competitive.

I've played with a few people in different places who have played as virtual def whores/escort planets at various points and I don't really think "getting onto the internet around 9am gmt some days" qualifies as "a lot more effort". Particularly not with iphones etc nowadays. Any effort or skill is put in by the player "using" them.

However, i wouldnt say they were situations where you could compare, as if you want to compare it to support planets it would be someone signing up in the last week in order to support them, which obviously is pure fail

Of course you can compare them. They're planets who sacrifice their rank for the benefit of others.

Also by the last week, everything isnt fair.. As alliances/galaxys have already notched up a huge score lead and they will obviously use this lead to try and grab the planet rank as well. While at the start of the round, everything is meant to be reletively fair with every planet starting with the same resources. Now that galaxy could choose to flagship that planet to #1 and i wouldnt have a problem with that, as that at least requires effort, skill, time and co-ordination.. While just signing up and donating to someone doesnt.

This is just gibberish based on nothing. After pt 0 things aren't "fair"! Is it unfair that ND have more planets than anyone else? Is it unfair that Ascendancy has better players? Is it unfair that some guy logs in more often than everyone else? If people get the same opportunities and play by the same rules where on earth does unfairness come into it?

It really doesnt matter if he wins or not, as the advantage gained is not enough to win the round outright at tick 70 as alot of other factors can come into it. Its just undeniably a huge advantage that he's gained and weither he's gained it unfairly or something that PA should encourage, whereby (if we go BP gals next round) everyone who is going random is encourage to get 4 non-players to signup and donate, then exile out at the pre-arranged time with there alliance to land in a fort galaxy.

I don't see why everyone's going to suddenly do this next round. I mean, even isil saw it last round and god knows we talked about it a lot in #asc between the rounds. Most people just didn't give a shit (although everyone encouraged it because we knew the emo-rage would be hysterical).

It also has a negative effect on the upgrade system, as the resource bonus gained from this dwarfs the upgrade bonus

Heaven forbid