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Originally Posted by Ramihyn
I disagree with the absoluteness you and (partly) Nodrog make this point. I dont say you both are completely wrong - but you are oversimplifying it.
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Simplifying things is what separates us from the animals. Except the retarded ones I guess.
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On the other hand - after beeing in the business for over a decade now, i doubt there is any legal "free" market at all. There are so many restrictions, regulations and limitations that its rather difficult to talk about "free" market or "free" price finding.
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Of course there isn't.
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Honestly - i have no clue what you want to say with that or how it applies to what i wrote. At the end of this post, i fear we talk about different things here 
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That was more of a general query of zhukov's intentions in creating this thread rather than questioning anything you said.
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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
A "free" market in the absolute sense is a bit like the theological problem of omnipotence (could God make a stone so heavy even he couldn't lift it?) and ultimately disappears in a puff of logic. Rules against subsidies or monopolies are pretty much anti-free market (in a free market why wouldn't people be able to sell their goods for whatever price they want?) but at the same time are in place to support the notion of a free market.
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Nah dude just because people create shit rules to support a cool system doesn't make the system less cool. It's like saying because people might create rules forcing everyone to vote democracy must be self-contradictory.