[All Systems Go]

Originally Posted by Nodrog

But what is the 'same sort of thing'? Did the Soviet Union do the same sort of thing as America? What about Nazi Germany, France under Napoleon, the Brits, or Imperial Japan? It seems to me that America is involved in a qualititively different 'sort of thing' than these superpowers, but I'm curious what your views are.

Read the previous sentence.

Originally Posted by Nodrog

If the Soviet Union were in America's position just now, do you really think that most of the Middle East would still be standing?

Originally Posted by All Systems Go

Of course methods change but that depends on which country it is and the ideology behind it.

Originally Posted by Nodrog

Well perhaps, but I think we can still make comments like "The Romans, Hitler and Napoleon desired the conquest of as much as the world as possible no matter the cost, whereas America's 'warmongering' has been limited to a few small-scale interventions in countries which were already under totalitarian rule" without risking the justification of too many atrocities.

this has absoutly nothing to do with my original post. I was not attempting to make any sort of moral comparisons with anyone nor do I wish to start now. Yes, some empires were worse than others but that is no justification for actions by the current world power to do as it pleases.