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Unread 6 May 2006, 11:20   #8
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Re: Recent Elections

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
Then it becomes pointless to talk about the British parties in those terms then. You may as well call all the parties "pro-Gay" because they don't call for the death penalty for homosexuals. If all parties share the same trait then if there is a shift from one party to another then it becomes a bit silly to say "There's a shift away from the socialists", since - by definition - they're all socialists...
To go with your 'gay' example, claiming that Labour arent a left wing party would be more like claiming a group of people in an Islamic dictatorship were pro-homosexual because they believed that gays only deserved to be shot, rather than burned alive. While I suppose you could say that they had vaguely progressive views relative to the rest of their countrymen, it would be absurd to suggest that they were anything other then backwards fundamentalists in an absolute sense. The same applies here - while Labour may not be left-wing when compared to (eg) the Labour party 50 years, they are still a heavily leftist party and this should not be ignored when discussing them (especially since dda is American, and telling him that "Labour are no longer socialist" may cause him to believe that they are somewhere to the right of the american Democrats, which is probably not the case).

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