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Originally Posted by Patrikc
Apprime used to be top tier because if you ****ed up even once you'd be out, in turn making an alliance that didn't.
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Munkee tried that in p3n, we ended up losing too many members!
Tbh p3n is supposed to be exactly as DoDDy mentions for Ult (hence the no DCs thing), however as you say about Fl increasingly the dedication is simply not there.