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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
There is at least one scenario in which Tia may be correct: Xan was awful before. You made huge changes, and now Xan is amazing. Pointing out the strength of Xan at both points in time would not be a contradiction.
I have not looked at the stats. I do not know whether Tia's criticism is accurate or not. The above is a hypothetical.
However, regardless of whether that's the scenario we're in, you would be better off if you countered Tia's criticism by explaining how Xan was not awful before, or better yet, how Xan is not amazing now. That isn't (just) a moral argument. It's just pragmatism. While it may feel good to beat someone in argument by attacking them personally or denigrating their behaviour, that doesn't help improve your stats. And even if you feel your stats do not need improving, by leaving Tia's criticism without real counter, you give people a reason to turn down your stats.
Apparently this bcalc is the entirety of Tia's argument. If you truly believe Xan is not OP, you should be able to point out flaws. If you cannot do that, then I (playing the clueless newbie who doesn't really look at the stats, who just does what the big names say) have no choice but to believe Tia, even if he is literally 100% Hitler. |
The argument was that Fireblade was not cloaked(meaning faking was less of a option vs CR/BS allies), and they had to split their value "more or less" 50/50 for FI and FR, since they had no other anti FR/DE in any other classes.
Now there will be a slight "re-doing" of the roach/avenger interaction to balance BS out a little more.
Are they unplayable? Surely no, even though thats what Tia has been saying for the last weeks.
Are they overpowered? No.
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=8cm8ft3hi6zxqvu
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=kk2tytr8nyvjcxz
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=x9zg68vezd3v38q
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=zwf9kpsb1bnfzef
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=m2ywr6j7hblaz4e
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=zhnrtrvkrwx3xdx
There is one thing yet to be fixed in the stats, and thats the cat DE + FR races interaction, and moving Avenger to init 1/2 and roaches to 2/3 would fix the "biggest" issues.