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Originally Posted by Paddy
In the newest version of the stats I feel that the cath cruiser fleet is now underpowered. It is probably the weakest of the traditional "main" roiding fleets. To have an affective cath cr/bs roiding fleet would require putting a very high proportion of resources into roaches and guardians. Without enough of these ships it is very easy to force a recall, either with anti-cr or anti-bs defence, depending which of the 2 ships is lacking.
Having looked closer at the stats while writing this I think the zik frigate fleet is also very under powered. This is because all the anti-fr ships in the universe will almost certainly be built in large quantities (vsh for xan fi fleets, wyvern/drake for ter roiding fleets, vipers/roaches for cath roiding fleets and marauders as zik's only anti-fr). This is made even more the case by the fact that marauders are now ships that can be used as defence. This change makes ziks look stronger at first glance but because of it, and the other reasons mentioned earlier, the marauder will actually become a more or less pointless ship as very few ziks would go with frigs.
With current stats I would say that with a low number of ziks in the game xan would be the best race. With a high number of ziks terran would probably become the better race, with cat and zik lagging a bit behind in either case.
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I believe that it is an intentional design to put the anti-fr into race's respective roiding ship type, since one could assume that active people use their roiding fleet to attack and hence their anti-fr will be out most of the time, or are you really expecting to ask your alliance's xans to devote their vsh for defense and only use pulsar/sent for attacking and same should be the case with viper/roach. The only anti-fr that you mentioned which usually will be home for ally def is the marauder and it being a steal ship doesnt make the anti-fr departement too strong imho.
Im not certain if I either agree with the displeasure concerning cath cr now requiring also bs to accompany them as the same has been done with xan fi by giving zikonian an updated version of sentinel. At least the new version of stats has arrowhead shooting before this upgraded sent which means that attacking with fi is feasible if you send in both fi and co.
Terrans/ziks do also usually attack with cr/bs combo so that leaves xan de ( which would benefit of having some fr escorts), terran de and cath co as roiding fleets that can be used by building only one type of ships and arrowhead/corsair/pulsar are stong counters versus the priviledged roiding fleets.
Maybe the current formation of cath cr/bs isnt the best one, but my stance is that cath cr fleet needs to be different from what it was this round as there is propotionally unusually large amount of anti-cr ships in Universe currently due to cath cr fleet having been so hard to counter.
I might be missing a thing or two, but my main point is that one should try to focus on the big picture instead of trying to just upgrade the race(s) of which one will pick the race he/she plays.