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I would have had no problem if you really had "approached you to hear what was going on?" as if that is what you had done you would have taken my denial, probably say we are stretching credibility, demand we dont hit you again, or if feeling particularly narked inform us that you will hit the same number as we hit of you. This would have been perfectly proportional reaction. Something we regularly get from other alliances, we roll our eyes say do what you want and get on with our usual raiding elsewhere for a day or two.
However that is not what you did. You refused to believe me that we did not ptarget even when given incontrovertible evidence in the form of a screenshot of the entire raid. Accused us of a fc which I again rebutted showing it was not our intention and essentially gave the impression that we get what is coming to us.
What you most certainly did not do is state a demand to give a way to sort it. Everything was negative not constructive. It was bad politics from both sides.

The point is that we have different view of what is targetting and whats not. You hit Norse only in 2.6 because you have naps with the rest.
I and Norse claims that hitting only 1 ally in a whole gal is targetting. You claim galraid, but it was only Norse there. Why not pick somewhere else with more ppl you can hit? Surely there must have been a better gal out there. Accused you of a FC? There wasnt any accusing, it WAS an FC. Intentional or not, it was an FC.

How can you not know this? It benefits you because you are much more likely to land us when we have lots of allies on us - obvious surely. It benefits ct because it served their purpose in getting us involved. Once we were involved it did not matter a jot if their assurances that you would not hit us were false.

We didnt look for a war at t300. Dont think anyone is.

It IS ancient history. That does not mean that it cant be used as evidence. I did history at university (Londo even has a phd in it) so I am quite happy with people bringing up the past as evidence. But I dont agree that it is helpful to your case as last round's circumstances were so unique. This round's clash follows the norm between us much better.

Still, its p3ng thats creating wars - Not Norse. Which was my initial point.

Dont play at being dense when you are not. That is not what I asked. I asked what else we might have done last round to get out of our situation with app considering what we knew at the time. I have since said to CBA that I think we did things the wrong way around and hitting ult rather than norse would have been more likely to succeed. However at the time you were the far more hostile alliance to us. You had hit us a lot early on in the round while Ult had been nice to us all round. Moreover you had refused to do any deals with us while dealing with practically anyone else while ult was much more open. Out of the two you were the obvious one.

I remember asking you while us - Norseless and P3ng, 2 cornered allys where fighting. We should rather join forces. While your plan was to beat us into hitting App. Which failed horribly.

You just got more incs out of it. You should have tried to XP off ult instead. Not that it would matter, but you'd have a better chance then