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Dace 30 Mar 2005 01:23

Paedophiles
 
"i don't mind 'em"


DISCUSS

Yahwe 30 Mar 2005 01:26

Re: Paedophiles
 
no they're all evil and they should be burnt alive.

burning's too good for them. let's kill them and then let's burn their families too

Sarina_Joy 30 Mar 2005 01:27

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They should have their penises cut off (there's no such thing as a female paedophile you know) and be forced to eat them. They should then be forced to live out their lives in old folks homes wiping old ladied bums.

Dace 30 Mar 2005 01:31

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But they provide much needed nurishment to the underprivalidged children of today in the form of sweets.

Surely this is an essential part of any decent society.

PAEDOPHILES FEED CHILDREN!!!

Yahwe 30 Mar 2005 01:34

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sweets

and a much needed protein source. mechanically recovered meat just aint the same. put that on 'jamies kitchen'

Sarina_Joy 30 Mar 2005 01:34

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Yes but as Jamie Oliver would tell you they don't feed them a healthy balanced diet! I demand all paedophiles be educated so that they entice kiddies with carrots not crunchies!

Dace 30 Mar 2005 01:35

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If it wasn't for this man THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN WOULD DIE OF MALNURISHMENT!

Deepflow 30 Mar 2005 01:40

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i think they should be cared for and loved... in their own ways.

by that i mean that in order to stop them abusing children of good hard working honest families, there should be a pool of prole children (good looking prole children mind) who are rationed out to registered paedophiles in order to sate their habit.

alternatively we could just burn them*








*and their families

Deffeh 30 Mar 2005 01:43

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Its a condition of the mind which is villified and given a bad name by a minority who take shit too far and choose to abuse :rolleyes:

JonnyBGood 30 Mar 2005 02:05

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Nearly as bad as the gays :mad:

Zar 30 Mar 2005 02:22

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Mixed feelings about them.

On the one hand i know it is not unnatural for men to be attracted to girls (assuming not a gay paedophile) below the age of 16 (or 14 if consent). History has proven that and only recently has society adjusted away from this.

On the other hand, society doesn't accept it. Also younger children arent old enough to make the mature decision. Having sex with pre-pubescent children is just yuck.

Paedophiles shouldn't be reprimanded because they are merely attracted to younger children, but should be punished due to the fact that they are soliciting sex with minors who are unable to make a mature decision of consent.

Yahwe 30 Mar 2005 02:29

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only recently with the hungarians...

Chika 30 Mar 2005 06:33

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Paedophiles only do what they do, due to a lack of confidence in themselves, and a feeling of being inadequate. People having sex with 16-17 year olds aren't so bad. But someone who has sex with 10-11 year olds should be maimed and burnt.

Dante Hicks 30 Mar 2005 06:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
Paedophiles only do what they do, due to a lack of confidence in themselves

That seems to be a fairly large unsubstantiated generalisation. There seems to be a number of motivations for any facet of human sexuality.

Besides, as has been made clear n times before, paedophilia doesn't imply that someone "does" anything. One imagines you can be attracted to children or whatever else without acting on the impulse. It's quite possible that if we all had Star Trek style holodecks that a lot more people would have sex with very young looking holograms than currently have sex with children now.

It seems easier if we say "child molestors" = people who molest children and "paedophiles" = people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. Discussing someone who has sex with a 16 year old in the same discussion as someone who has sex with an 8 year old seems pretty stupid imo. People cannot necessarily control the desires they have, but they damn well better be able to control their actions. If not then they need urgent psychiatric help.

Chika 30 Mar 2005 07:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
That seems to be a fairly large unsubstantiated generalisation. There seems to be a number of motivations for any facet of human sexuality.

Besides, as has been made clear n times before, paedophilia doesn't imply that someone "does" anything. One imagines you can be attracted to children or whatever else without acting on the impulse. It's quite possible that if we all had Star Trek style holodecks that a lot more people would have sex with very young looking holograms than currently have sex with children now.

It seems easier if we say "child molestors" = people who molest children and "paedophiles" = people who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. Discussing someone who has sex with a 16 year old in the same discussion as someone who has sex with an 8 year old seems pretty stupid imo. People cannot necessarily control the desires they have, but they damn well better be able to control their actions. If not then they need urgent psychiatric help.

Thinking about it is wrong also I beleive. Premeditation. That word causes killers to be sentenced to death. It is wrong to think baout having sex with small kids. Its a major flaw in character. Its hard to discuss this with people who don't have kids of thier own.

Dante Hicks 30 Mar 2005 09:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
Thinking about it is wrong also I beleive. Premeditation. That word causes killers to be sentenced to death.

Yeah but only if you actually do it afterwards. I've often thought of killing people. This is not a crime, thankfully.

Quote:

It is wrong to think baout having sex with small kids.
It depends what you mean by "wrong". It's certainly undesirable in a practical sense since it's a desire that you can't fulfill. If you have a choice in the matter I'd advise against it. But it's not a direct choice (or it doesn't seem to be). I generally find pale women to be attractive for instance. It's not a conscious choice, merely how it is. It's quite possible that people who think about having sex with kids aren't deliberately choosing to do so.

Besides, it's not really "wrong" in the social sense unless you act on it (much like murderous thoughts as discussed before).

CrashTester 30 Mar 2005 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
There should be some sort of agency to monitor people's cognitive transgressions. Now what would that agency be called?


Cognative Understanding of Neurological Transgressions agency?

madi 30 Mar 2005 10:39

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they are broken of the brain and should be removed

imo

m
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CrashTester 30 Mar 2005 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madi
they are broken of the brain and should be removed

imo

m
x


But Madi, women are broken in the brain too - SHOULD THEY BE REMOVED ALSO???

Nusselt 30 Mar 2005 11:17

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dress em up as little blonde boys and send them to the neverland ranch.

Deepflow 30 Mar 2005 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
Thinking about it is wrong also I beleive. Premeditation. That word causes killers to be sentenced to death. It is wrong to think baout having sex with small kids. Its a major flaw in character. Its hard to discuss this with people who don't have kids of thier own.

how the hell is premeditation the same as thinking about something? do you also advocate imprisoning the bdsm community for thinking about rape/torture etc?

really, its almost as if you read the tabloids specifically so you know what to think/say.

G.K Zhukov 30 Mar 2005 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarina_Joy
They should have their penises cut off (there's no such thing as a female paedophile you know) and be forced to eat them. They should then be forced to live out their lives in old folks homes wiping old ladied bums.

1. No female pedos? In America there is!!!!!!

2. Good idea :)

G.K Zhukov 30 Mar 2005 15:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
I assumed SJ was being ironical.

Notice all the !!!! ?

Yahwe 30 Mar 2005 15:53

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Perhaps i should explain.

Both the 'genocide' and paedophile threads stem from a conversation last night in #forums. I criticised demigod for posting a stupid thread on abortion. My point was that he was making emmotive threads with no intellectual value that would just lead to flamming and aggression.

In criticising him i said his thread was tantamount to posting 'paedophiles: i don't mind them' or 'genocide: it has its moments'. two examples of bad threads that would just attract bad posts and ill thought out biggotry.

My dear darling dace, whom i love, decided to make the threads. Sarina who agreed with me posted to show the sort of dribble such threads attract; in fact i think i did to.

the whole purpose of the threads was to get through demigod's thick skull what nonsense he had created in the abortion thread. they're educational tools.

I just thought i should point this out.

Tomkat 30 Mar 2005 17:01

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I see paedophilia as just a mental disorder.

Banging them up in prison and then releasing them to society after is a stupidly naive thing to do. There should be more research done into how the "illness" could be combatted.

There are psychiatric institutions and mental hospitals for other members of our societies who suffer.

The sooner paedoph9iles are moved into high security mental institions, as opposed to prisons, where there are simple-minded thugs, the better.

Marilyn Manson 30 Mar 2005 17:09

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There's thousands of paedos, all under one roof, it's called GD, GD, GD!

Tomkat 30 Mar 2005 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toccata & Fugue
Well its not even a disorder, its a preference.

I'm not going to get hung up on the meanings of different words here, T&F.

You know what I mean. Whether I use disorder, or malfunction, or anomaly, it means the same thing in this context.

Cannon_Fodder 30 Mar 2005 17:31

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You see a fit girl from behind, you're attracted to her and want to **** her. Then she turns around and you see shes like 14. You then walk away unattracted to her. Normal people exert moral reasoning over natural instint, that's what's different to paedophiles.

C'mon it was in Waking the Dead ffs

LHC 30 Mar 2005 17:40

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That isn't what was said in Waking the Dead. They didn't say anything about walking away unattracted, just that you move on and don't think about it.

demiGOD 30 Mar 2005 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
Both the 'genocide' and paedophile threads stem from a conversation last night in #forums. I criticised demigod for posting a stupid thread on abortion. My point was that he was making emmotive threads with no intellectual value that would just lead to flamming and aggression.

In criticising him i said his thread was tantamount to posting 'paedophiles: i don't mind them' or 'genocide: it has its moments'. two examples of bad threads that would just attract bad posts and ill thought out biggotry.

I just thought i should point this out.

Your criticism was very constructive and your point was taken. :)

Cannon_Fodder 30 Mar 2005 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LHC
That isn't what was said in Waking the Dead. They didn't say anything about walking away unattracted, just that you move on and don't think about it.

well whatever, point still stands

1-X 30 Mar 2005 18:13

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A few weeks ago I was chatting to someone in a net cafe. We were discussing the recent arrest of someone there for looking at and printing out child porn in full view on a public computer.

Anyway, he was making a cliched rant about how hanging was too good for 'em etc while I just nodded and smiled. Eventually he commented on how lightly I took the issue. By not adding to the condemnation, I was being suspected myself. I told him I just saw the funny side of it, how incredibly stupid that man must have been, but the thought popped into my head that this was down to GD rubbing off on me.*

*not frottage :p

JonnyBGood 30 Mar 2005 19:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-X
Eventually he commented on how lightly I took the issue. By not adding to the condemnation, I was being suspected myself.

I hope he was run over by a truck.

onetwothree 30 Mar 2005 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe
no they're all evil and they should be burnt alive.

burning's too good for them. let's kill them and then let's burn their families too

I say we have their kids raped!

1-X 30 Mar 2005 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onetwothree
I say we have their kids raped!

I say we build a time machine and send them back to rape themselves when they were kids!

Knight Theamion 30 Mar 2005 22:50

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'5 month olds don't say no'

Stew 30 Mar 2005 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight Theamion
'5 month olds don't say no'

Too far Theam, too far.

Knight Theamion 30 Mar 2005 22:55

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there was a tragic (horrific) event a few months ago in the netherlands, a father had abused his child from about day 6 of her life, 'till the day he was arrested, when she was about 11. He had a previous conviction for child abuse with his underage nieces.

sick.

Dace 30 Mar 2005 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by onetwothree
I say we have their kids raped!



Yeah MAKE THE BASTARDS WATCH TOO!!!

That'll show 'em.

Justice for all!

Chika 31 Mar 2005 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Deepflow
how the hell is premeditation the same as thinking about something? do you also advocate imprisoning the bdsm community for thinking about rape/torture etc?

really, its almost as if you read the tabloids specifically so you know what to think/say.

The thread called for an opinion. I expressed my opinion. If you disagree, state as such then make your own point. I fail to see the relevance of your quoting me.
Let me **** your daughter.

JonnyBGood 31 Mar 2005 02:26

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You can **** my daughter in your mind but not in actuality, get the difference?

Dace 31 Mar 2005 02:32

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She ****ing takes it every which way too.

Chika 31 Mar 2005 03:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
You can **** my daughter in your mind but not in actuality, get the difference?

JonnyBgood, if we were close friends and you had a daughter, lets say 12 years old, would it be ok if I thought about her sexually?
I think any person would answer "no". Now in the same sense, just because a person is not your friend, doesn't make it ok for him to think about your daughter.
Note: the words "You" "Your" etc do not mean you. They were strictly used for example.

Deffeh 31 Mar 2005 04:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
JonnyBgood, if we were close friends and you had a daughter, lets say 12 years old, would it be ok if I thought about her sexually?
I think any person would answer "no". Now in the same sense, just because a person is not your friend, doesn't make it ok for him to think about your daughter.
Note: the words "You" "Your" etc do not mean you. They were strictly used for example.

I wouldnt be chuffed if you (or anyone) was either thinking about, or ****ing, my sister at any rate. I wouldnt be chuffed for example, if you wanted to take my 16 year old sister up the ass in your mind. It still doesnt change the fact that as long as you dont act untowardly, i cant own or condemn your thoughts. I dont like Nationalists, i cant stop them thinking their patriotic garbage, etc etc

Phang 31 Mar 2005 04:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
JonnyBgood, if we were close friends and you had a daughter, lets say 12 years old, would it be ok if I thought about her sexually?

yes. but thinking something and ****ing something are such radically different entities that trying to explain the difference is like trying to explain why a blowtorch isn't a shark.

JonnyBGood 31 Mar 2005 04:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chika
JonnyBgood, if we were close friends and you had a daughter, lets say 12 years old, would it be ok if I thought about her sexually?
I think any person would answer "no". Now in the same sense, just because a person is not your friend, doesn't make it ok for him to think about your daughter.
Note: the words "You" "Your" etc do not mean you. They were strictly used for example.

I presume if we were close friends you'd be the sort of person who wouldn't act on every impulse he had so yeah it would be.

Yahwe 31 Mar 2005 06:37

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again we ask the question.


why exactly was chika unbanned?

Dace 31 Mar 2005 23:04

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Deffeh has a sister?!



PIC LINK!!!

Knight Theamion 31 Mar 2005 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dace
Deffeh has a sister?!



PIC LINK!!!


Stew 1 Apr 2005 00:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dace
Deffeh has a sister?!



PIC LINK!!!



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